Re: [Gendergap] civility/behavioral standards

2012-05-07 Thread Valerie Aurora
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Kevin Gorman  wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> As was announced several months ago, I am now one of the moderators of
> this list.
>
> Some time ago, there was a discussion on this list about behavioral
> standards for this list.  There was widespread agreement in the
> initial thread that it's important for this list to remain a safe
> space for discussion, even if that means enforcing a behavioral
> standard higher than is the norm on other Wikimedia mailing lists.  I
> think that given the nature of this list, it would be especially,
> extraordinarily, unusually counterproductive to allow a consistently
> combative or consistently uncivil environment to take root here.
> Given the previous thread about it, and some off-list conversations
> I've recently had, I know I am far from the only list member to feel
> that way.
>
> Given this, I'm going to change how the moderation of this list is
> handled a little bit moving forward.  Previously, there has been no
> hands-on moderation of this list.  From now on, there will potentially
> be some.  It won't be draconian - and really, I hope it'll never be
> used at all - but I think it's important to guarantee that the
> atmosphere of this list remains friendly, and I wanted to announce how
> I will be approaching it.
>
> If, after an initial direct request to change their behavior, anyone
> behaves in a way that is significantly disruptive to this list, a way
> that is consistently uncivil, or a way that consistently makes other
> list members feel uncomfortable participating on this list, I will be
> putting them on +moderate, which means that all of their emails will
> be held until I approve them - and I'll only be approving emails that
> don't do those things.  I obviously don't mean that dissenting
> opinions aren't okay; I think they should always be welcomed and
> moderation will not be done on the basis of the opinion someone
> expresses.  But, I do think that all opinions can be expressed in a
> civil way that doesn't make other list members feel uncomfortable.
>
> We could create an enumerated list of rules trying to cover every
> scenario that could come up, but I don't think that would be necessary
> or productive.  I think that most people realize when they stop over a
> line - and if they don't before someone else speaks up about it, they
> certainly should afterwards.  I normally watch most traffic on this
> list, but I don't always (this week is finals for me :).)  If you have
> a complaint about someone's behavior that you think needs moderator
> attention that has been missed, please send me a direct email.  If
> someone else emails you asking to change your behavior or expressing
> discomfort in your posting style, please take a minute to step back
> and see if there could be something to their request.   It's
> understandable that sometimes tensions will run high on gendergap
> issues and no one will be moderated unless their posts are
> consistently problematic even after being approached about it.
>
> Feedback on this is welcome, although the basic idea (that members
> whose presence is disruptive to this list being a safe space) is
> unlikely to totally change.

Thanks, Kevin.  This announcement agrees with my personal
understanding of the role of a male ally.  First, the action you are
taking is in response to the expressed wishes of many women.  Second,
you took up this role after a long time of waiting for someone else to
step up.  Third, the actions you take will again be in response to the
requests of many women.  Acting in this capacity seems totally
congruent with being an ally in my opinion.

-VAL

-- 
Increasing the participation of women in open technology and culture
http://adainitiative.org

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Re: [Gendergap] civility/behavioral standards

2012-05-07 Thread Carol Moore DC

On 5/6/2012 5:03 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:

...

Given this, I'm going to change how the moderation of this list is
handled a little bit moving forward.  Previously, there has been no
hands-on moderation of this list.  From now on, there will potentially
be some.  It won't be draconian - and really, I hope it'll never be
used at all - but I think it's important to guarantee that the
atmosphere of this list remains friendly, and I wanted to announce how
I will be approaching it.

If, after an initial direct request to change their behavior, anyone
behaves in a way that is significantly disruptive to this list, a way
that is consistently uncivil, or a way that consistently makes other
list members feel uncomfortable participating on this list, I will be
putting them on +moderate, which means that all of their emails will
be held until I approve them - and I'll only be approving emails that
don't do those things.

I thought people already were doing this but not very well... I just tend to
skim so I ignore  most of the questionable stuff by any and all parties. But
if this helps people control self so there are fewer postings of 
questionable

nature, might read more carefully.

Thanks.

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[Gendergap] Permanently banning "War on Women" from Wikipedia

2012-05-07 Thread Carol Moore DC
This article has problems I've mention on the talk page and 
WP:Wikiproject feminism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women

It's up for second deletion and proposals it be permanently banned.
FYI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/War_on_Women_%282nd_nomination%29



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[Gendergap] Porn Bio RfC

2012-05-07 Thread Carol Moore DC
For those who enjoy debating various angles of this topic.  Controlling 
myself personally...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_%28people%29#rfc_3EDB4AE

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