Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-06-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
We are not talking about filtering standard sex education images as you
might find in a school book. We are talking about images or videos of women
drinking their urine, masturbating with a toothbrush, or having sex with a
dog.

Andreas

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Michelle Gallaway mgalla...@gmail.comwrote:

 You know, while I'd rather my son learns about human sexuality in a way
 that I'm comfortable with and can control, the reality is that he's not
 going to come to his mum for that information!  I'd really much rather he
 reads that information on Wikipedia, (even if that information is not
 perfect), than gets his education on the topic from *actual* internet
 pornography.  In this sense putting in a family friendly content filter
 like Larry Sanger advocates would probably be a massive own goal.

 If there are any other mothers on the list, I'd be interested in hearing
 their thoughts too...

 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:


  The problem with all enforced filtering systems is that they aren't
 going to stop kids getting to porn (15-year-old boys have both a lot of
 time, technical expertise and will find creative ways to get their hands on
 porn), but they often will over-censor. Back in the 90s, GLAAD put out a
 report called Access Denied that described how filtering technology was
 restricting access to LGBT information sites. My university used to prevent
 students (adults!) from accessing the Wikipedia article on Same-sex
 marriage because, well, the URL contains the word sex. Breast cancer
 awareness/information sites get hammered for the word breast.



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Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-06-02 Thread Sarah Stierch

I think the point is taken.

I really have no desire to think about these things, especially every 
time I read this mailing list these days.


-Sarah

On 6/2/12 7:57 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
We are not talking about filtering standard sex education images as 
you might find in a school book. We are talking about images or videos 
of women drinking their urine, masturbating with a toothbrush, or 
having sex with a dog.


Andreas

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Michelle Gallaway mgalla...@gmail.com 
mailto:mgalla...@gmail.com wrote:


You know, while I'd rather my son learns about human sexuality in
a way that I'm comfortable with and can control, the reality is
that he's not going to come to his mum for that information!  I'd
really much rather he reads that information on Wikipedia, (even
if that information is not perfect), than gets his education on
the topic from *actual* internet pornography.  In this sense
putting in a family friendly content filter like Larry Sanger
advocates would probably be a massive own goal.

If there are any other mothers on the list, I'd be interested in
hearing their thoughts too...

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org
mailto:t...@tommorris.org wrote:


 The problem with all enforced filtering systems is that they
aren't going to stop kids getting to porn (15-year-old boys
have both a lot of time, technical expertise and will find
creative ways to get their hands on porn), but they often will
over-censor. Back in the 90s, GLAAD put out a report called
Access Denied that described how filtering technology was
restricting access to LGBT information sites. My university
used to prevent students (adults!) from accessing the
Wikipedia article on Same-sex marriage because, well, the
URL contains the word sex. Breast cancer
awareness/information sites get hammered for the word breast.


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Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-06-02 Thread Carol Moore DC

On 6/2/2012 12:15 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:

I think the point is taken.

I really have no desire to think about these things, especially every 
time I read this mailing list these days.


-Sarah
Really. My idea is, let the foundation use it's best judgement.   I'm 
sure it will err on the liberal side...
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[Gendergap] WikiWomenCamp on WMF's blog

2012-06-02 Thread Laura Hale
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/06/02/wikiwomencamp-brings-together-female-wikimedians-in-buenos-aires/

:D

Very happy because yay for positive coverage. :)

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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