Re: [Gendergap] Wikimania Feedback Comment on luncheon

[Valerie Aurora]

I do really like having these kinds of introductions - I am always
amazed by the breadth and variety of interests that people have and it
is a good lesson for me about my stereotypes and assumptions about
women I haven't overcome yet.  It's also a great way to find people
you want to meet.

But I agree it took too long.  That introduction format worked really
well at AdaCamp DC - for a variety of reasons that didn't apply at
that lunch and I wasn't even aware of during the AdaCamp intros.  You
can get through 125 introductions of that form very quickly if you
have:

* Good models to start the introductions off by adhering strictly to
the (very short) format
* Strict reinforcement of the format whenever people start to get wordy
* Two microphones so you don't have mike-passing time in between intros

I first saw this style of introduction at FOOCamp, which has it down
to a science, but it's harder than it looks, as we found. :)

My two cents is that the lunch should be longer!  I like to schedule
at least an hour and half. :) Overall, I was thrilled with the whole
lunch.

-VAL

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Gillian White  wrote:
> I agree that 125 introductions is not a productive or fun way to use a short
> amount of time. In this instance, the process halted all conversation and
> created a no-win situation for members of the audience - either try to
> concentrate on an impossible-to-remember roll-call, or ignore the speakers.
> Neither is good and leaving the room would be even more impolite. However,
> it is good to have a problem that results from success!
>
> A solution depends on what the purpose of the meeting is. If the purpose
> changes from a lunch meeting, different approaches could be used but
> multiple meetings or more scheduled talks should probably become strands of
> the conference. The trick is to balance structure and lack of structure in
> line with the principles and purpose.
>
> Assuming the meeting continues to be a lunch meeting, I think the principles
> that need to be remembered for such an event involving such a number of
> people are:
> - there is not much time and that time has to allow for eating (IMHO that
> does not mean wandering around trying to hold food and talk at the same
> time);
> - anything repetitive is bound to be tedious;
> - since there is a major conference in session, anything formal, other than
> a welcome from Sue, would either not be a lunch meeting or should be added
> to the conference agenda itself;
> - flexibility and a degree of spontaneity are necessary.
>
> So, one suggestion for a Wikimania Wiki Women's lunch meeting (and I am sure
> there are other possibilities that will be considered between now and the
> next conference) is to print up multiple copies of some theme labels for
> people to grab and put on their table as they go into the lunch room. For
> example, there could be labels for tables for women who want to:
> -  meet new people/conference participants;
> - talk about the conference sessions;
> - NOT talk about the conference sessions;
> - continue an unfinished earlier discussion;
> - plan some women's meetings to be held during pre-allocated times during
> the conference (eg the women's edit-a-thon suggested above).
> There are many more possible but you get the drift.
>
> If multiple rooms are available the same procedure could be applied in
> advance and rooms allocated for lots of smaller lunch groups. That sort of
> thing depends on the venue but breaking it up means missing the opportunity
> for a gathering of everyone together. Also, requiring a forced choice for
> women who have a range of interests and commitments is something to avoid.
>
> Whiteghost.ink
>
>
> On 26 July 2012 07:01, Orsolya Gyenes  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, we really didn't expect over 120 women (double as much as last year)
>> and I think it was right to get to know each other and learn where we all
>> coming from and what we are interested in. Usually that doesn't happen on
>> this list.
>>
>> Maybe we could organize a female edithaton during the Hacking Days in HK,
>> if there's a need for it.
>>
>> ~Orsolya
>> Deputy Program Chair
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/25 Carol Moore DC 
>>>
>>> From
>>> http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback#Other_meetups_and_meetings
>>>
>>>  The Women's Luncheon on Saturday was something I was very much looking
>>> forward to, but it fell short of my expectations. I was enjoying bonding
>>> with the women at my table, asking the speakers about their presentations
>>> and hoping to form some more solid relationships with veteran and new
>>> Wikipedians alike. Being required to sit back quietly while 125+ women each
>>> stood up to introduce themselves felt like a waste of an opportunity to
>>> build a stronger female editing community. Knowing that the women are
>>> passionate about sharing was good, but wouldn't have been more to the
>>> purpose to encourage networking so all the women in attendance would be more
>>> inclined to stay act

[Gendergap] Michelle Jenneke's Wikipedia article

[Laura Hale]

Cross posted from my blog at:
http://ozziesport.com/2012/07/michelle-jennekes-wikipedia-article/

In the continuing brief look at English Wikipedia's coverage of female
Australian Olympians, a brief look at a non-Olympian: Michelle Jenneke, a
hurdler who did not make the 2012 Olympics.

An article about her  was
created on 20 July 2012.   Pretty quickly, it was nominated for
deletionbecause
Jenneke was not viewed as notable, or only notable because of her
"jiggle" video.  Since July 20, her article has had 132,997 views.  (First
Saudi Arabian female Olympian in contrast? 6,787
views.)
The deletion nomination had 1,347
views.
Lots and lots of page views.  Some sexism going on.  What is the care
factor about this? On Twitter, Jenneke's article had zero
links,
while the deletion nomination had three links on
Twitter.
(Another fun contrast? Lauren Jackson's Wikipedia article only had one
Twitter mention
since the flag
bearing news was announced.  Page
views for Jackson  were
less today than what her article had on the day it appeared on Wikipedia's
front page.)

My take away from this?  Sexism still generates lots of traffic and a fair
amount of conversation.  It doesn't necessarily translate that success,
moving women forward and great personal accomplishments translate into
interest and traffic.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale
-- 
twitter: purplepopple
blog: ozziesport.com
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Re: [Gendergap] Notes from an edit-a-thon

[whiteghost .ink]

Well done Daniel - great article!
Inspired by your efforts and Sarah's session, I have beefed up another of
the proposed articles. Although I have not done enough to make a DYK, it's
better than it was.
Here she is - Alice
Wheeldon,
whose commitment to peace and anti-war activism cost her a lot.

Cheers,
Whiteghost.ink

On 24 July 2012 14:12, Daniel and Elizabeth Case wrote:

>   A little over a week after Wikimania, where I participated in the “10
> women in 10 minutes” session Sarah led, I have gotten the article my group
> worked on, [[Adrienne Bolland]], through DYK to the Main Page queue, with
> two other editors who worked on it sharing in the credit. It is currently
> scheduled to run on July 25, in the evening rotation in Europe, afternoon
> here in North American Eastern time where I live and morning on the West
> Coast, and early morning July 26 in Oceania/Asia.
>
> I have two takeaways from the experience to offer anyone else
> participating in, or running, one of these events.
>
>
>1. *Cast a wide net for sources* when looking to expand a stubby
>article. I was attracted to this one because the Francophone Wikipedia has
>a longer article on her; unfortunately it’s tagged as lacking sources. But
>at least I can read French well enough to figure out what should have been
>included in the English article, and that helped to guide us. Reflecting
>the multilingual group we were, the final article has sources from not only
>French and English (Monash University in Australia has a nice set of pages
>on aviation pioneers) but German and Spanish as well (The German book we
>cited actually seems like a good source; it seems to be meant for younger
>readers and thus was at about the right level for me to read—somehow, when
>I looked at it, German (which I’ve never formally studied) came through
>clearer than it ever has. Unfortunately the Google preview ends right when
>the story starts getting good. Perhaps some German reader can find the
>hardcover book and see if there’s anything else worth adding). Other
>sources tapped include the Air France inflight magazine, a school website
>in France and the World Postal Union website (which would seem to be a
>good, reliable, authoritative source for stamp information).
>2. *Not all the work done by editors physically collaborating shows up
>in the history*. Sitting there putting our heads together, we were
>able to come to a consensus on whether a particular source was reliable
>and, when two of our sources conflicted as to a particular fact, which to
>include.
>
> I hope you like the final result as much as I liked writing it (Mme.
> Bolland makes a nice feminist role model—after her aviation career, she was
> in the French women’s-suffrage movement, then supported the Republicans
> during the Spanish Civil War and was active in the resistance during the
> war. The more I researched, the more I liked her and felt honored to be
> improving her Wikipedia article.
>
> Now, I hope, the French article can be properly referenced and the other
> articles expanded. User:Maire, who was in our group, promised she would get
> around to doing a Polish translation, which left me with Russian among the
> languages I’d feel comfortable editing in that aren’t represented yet among
> the interwiki links. Which I’ll do when I can figure out how to properly
> transliterate her first name and which of four possible pronunciations I
> can think of for her last name is the right one.
>
> Or someone else here can take up the challenge. It’s worth it.
>
> Daniel Case
>
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