Re: [Gendergap] [WikiEN-l] Categorisation by gender
On Jul 18, 2012 8:56 PM, "Carcharoth" wrote: > > On 7/18/12, David Gerard wrote: > > On 18 July 2012 10:47, Andrew Gray wrote: > > > >> I remember it being referred to many years ago as long-standing > >> practice, but I've dug around a bit in the discussion archives and > >> can't seem to pin it down. It's probably pre-2004, maybe even pre-2003 > >> - anyone remember? > > > > As with almost all our category system, it's basically ad hoc. I > > suggest if you can propose something not insane to relevant > > wikiprojects and are prepared to do the bot work yourself, you can > > have endless fun clicking "save" in AWB for a few hours. > > For 1,000,000 articles? I think it should be done, but it will take > more than a few hours. I think it could be done very quickly, if lots > of people got involved. Laura and I did it for Australian sports people. It is time consuming as category structures need to be created. > And I don't think the cases where it is > unclear or a matter of privacy (a vanishingly small number) should > preclude the obvious cases being done. It doesn't seem quite right > that the potential for arguments over edge cases and how to handle > them sensitively, would preclude being able to search by gender. When used in category intersections, its really useful info for gender studies. -- JV ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Do inconsistent GA standards discourage people from participating in GA?
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Laura Hale wrote: > This is a topic that has come up at > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias&pe=1&#Possible_systemic_bias_at_Good_Article_Reviews > > Do people have similar experiences? > > -- Have you typically found that badgering people like that draws them into contributing to the topics that interest you? The editor obviously misunderstood the specific types of systemic bias the project is meant to counter, and tried to disengage several times, but instead of allowing him or her to gracefully do that you escalated each time. I don't see why, or why you would think it necessary to bring further attention to your behavior by posting it on this list. ~Nathan ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Battles & battalions
Dear colleagues, Examples like these remind us how important a sense of humor is for successfully remaining and being productive in the grand work of Wikipedia. By the time I got through the series of comments LauraHale asks us to consider, I was again reminded of why I like Wikipedians and why I am outraged by Wikipedians. Gallows humor can set in, but hope is sparked too. Stick with it Laura, you are making headway. There is decent (if exasperating) engagement going on, not bad. Meanwhile, does anybody have an amusing joke to keep the rest of us amicably disposed to the "world brain' project? How about an anecdote? I have a little one: Somehow I'd surfed my way into a situation (seemed all male) where an admin (a) had taken to task, threatened, and ultimately exaggerated the sins of a (supposed) Canadian teenager(t) who'd created a segment on a page donning himself the First Lord or Baron of somewhere - something like that. The (a) was not very civil and after I visited the 'lord' page, I believed (a) had taken the facts and got ahead of himself. It was clear to me an exuberant new Wikipedia contributor (t) got deeply into being a lord, and was especially fond of envisioning and detailing lordly regalia, sabre weaponry, and medals to enhance his lordliness. I decided to weigh in and defend (t) suggesting admins needed to take this (obvious youth) with a grain of salt, gently guide the newcomer, helping create an environment where he distinguishes online gaming characters from what really exists, facts vs. fantasy, if you will. Well, I posted to that effect, because I worried the 'lord' (t) would disappear from Wikipedia forever (and it was obvious he showed 'promise'). Other admins got in on it, agreed with me, and the last I knew, they'd taken (a) 'out behind the woodshed.' I thought that reaction harsh too. I likely posted some kindly comments on Virtues. My ideas were defended, not attacked. I surfed off somewhere else... I hope (t) stayed on board, corrected, and survived his first lordly battles... KSRolph ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
