Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility
Speaking of incivility, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Civility_enforcement is still going on... But we need more than words - we need a video. Maybe some of the influentials on board could get something like this going... As I just wrote there: I'm thinking one good funny video might help educate a lot of people. Have well nown and volunteer wikimedians/pedians READING out loud some of the absurd uncivil stuff that gets posted with appropriate expressions as if actually saying to a person -- and then calmly explain WHY that is harmful to the project and what the project is. In a funny but ''guilty-trippy'' way. The real psychopaths won't care but a number of people may be positively influenced. Carol in dc ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] List of celebrity hairdressers
Glad the article survived the chopping block! -Sarah On 10/9/12 1:11 AM, Tom Morris wrote: We have an AfD nomination for 'List of celebrity hairdressers', on the basis that it is trivial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_celebrity_hairdressers Can't remember the last time that a list article on baseball was nominated for deletion on the basis of triviality. Apparently, stereotypically masculine trivial things are fine but stereotypically feminine trivial things aren't. Le sigh. -- *Sarah Stierch* */Museumist and open culture advocate/* Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] More about the Ada Lovelace initiative
Fabulous news Lennart! I have shared the recent press on our WikiWomen Collab Facebook and Twitter. I'd love to get a blog - in English and Swedish, for our new WikiWomen blog[1] after the event takes place, with photographs. I am impressed for sure, and cannot wait to ride this energy for WikiWomen's History Month in March! :) -Sarah [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative/Blogs On 10/9/12 7:04 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote: Hello, Something very cool has begun to happen in Sweden. Since the largest daily newspaper wrote about the Ada Lovelace editathon (http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/svenska-wikipeida-skapar-dag-for-kvinnoartiklar), we have seen a buzz in the social media. A Swedish non-profit, Rättviseförmedlingen (the Fairness Bureau), which is devoted to making it easier for media to find female experts, have endorsed it (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151273255534750set=a.361483174749.189413.361481469749type=1theaternotif_t=photo_reply), which so far has been shared several dozen times on Facebook. That has also inspired other to send out invites to women across the internet. One example is this invite: https://www.facebook.com/events/525660827448094/ It has been sent out to 4,500 persons, mostly women, and so far 593 have accepted the invitation. Just to give you some perspective: according to the statistics (http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediansEditsGt5.htm), there are about 800 active users (+5 edits) this month on Swedish Wikipedia. So, potentially, women could out-edit men on that day! Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson Personlig blogg http://mrchapel.wordpress.com Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- *Sarah Stierch* */Museumist and open culture advocate/* Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility
What I was most struck by was the hypocrisy: in Reddit's vision, freedom of speech includes anonymously posting invasive images of teenagers, but excludes posting the name of a 49-year-old programmer who anonymously posts invasive images of teenagers. No privacy rights for teenage girls, complete privacy rights for those who invade their privacy. There are most definitely parallels to Wikimedia. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Unmasking Reddit’s Violentacrez, The Biggest Troll on the Web https://gawker.com/5950981/ One reason Violentacrez continued to occupy such a high-profile position on Reddit was of course his free speech rhetoric. But Violentacrez has historically had a close relationship with Reddit's staff, a fact far less well-known than his controversial behavior. For all his unpleasantness, they realized that Violentacrez was an excellent community moderator and could be counted on to keep the administrators abreast of any illegal content he came across. Wow, it's like Wikipedia's civility vs. established editors dynamic but with more misogyny, homophobia and racism... -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility
I'm not entirely certain that this has a lot to do with civilityalthough it does certainly have a lot to do with respect for women. (It also reassures me that my decision to not create a facebook account was wise in more ways than one.) Nonetheless, one difference that was immediately apparent is the fact that Violentacrez was pretty much at the top of the volunteer heap there: he essentially had control of a large portion of their content, had permissions and accesses even higher than any Wikipedia administrator has, and clearly had direct communication and influence with the staff of Reddit. I can't think of someone who was equally trollish having the same degree of access or influence on any Wikimedia project. Yes, we have lots of loud people and rude people and trolls. But most of them are never granted adminship (and I can think of only one or two who advanced beyond that point in *any* WMF project), and none of them have anywhere near the same degree of control of content. Risker/Anne On 13 October 2012 16:55, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: What I was most struck by was the hypocrisy: in Reddit's vision, freedom of speech includes anonymously posting invasive images of teenagers, but excludes posting the name of a 49-year-old programmer who anonymously posts invasive images of teenagers. No privacy rights for teenage girls, complete privacy rights for those who invade their privacy. There are most definitely parallels to Wikimedia. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Unmasking Reddit’s Violentacrez, The Biggest Troll on the Web https://gawker.com/5950981/ One reason Violentacrez continued to occupy such a high-profile position on Reddit was of course his free speech rhetoric. But Violentacrez has historically had a close relationship with Reddit's staff, a fact far less well-known than his controversial behavior. For all his unpleasantness, they realized that Violentacrez was an excellent community moderator and could be counted on to keep the administrators abreast of any illegal content he came across. Wow, it's like Wikipedia's civility vs. established editors dynamic but with more misogyny, homophobia and racism... -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap