Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility

2012-10-13 Thread Carol Moore DC
Speaking of incivility, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Civility_enforcement 
is still going on...


But we need more than words - we need a video.  Maybe some of the 
influentials on board could get something like this going...


As I just wrote there:

I'm thinking one good funny video might help educate a lot of people. 
Have well nown and volunteer wikimedians/pedians READING out loud some 
of the absurd uncivil stuff that gets posted with appropriate 
expressions as if actually saying to a person -- and then calmly explain 
WHY that is harmful to the project and what the project is.  In a funny 
but ''guilty-trippy'' way. The real psychopaths won't care but a number 
of people may be positively influenced. 


Carol in dc

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Re: [Gendergap] List of celebrity hairdressers

2012-10-13 Thread Sarah Stierch

Glad the article survived the chopping block!

-Sarah

On 10/9/12 1:11 AM, Tom Morris wrote:

We have an AfD nomination for 'List of celebrity hairdressers', on the basis that it is 
trivial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_celebrity_hairdressers

Can't remember the last time that a list article on baseball was nominated for 
deletion on the basis of triviality. Apparently, stereotypically masculine 
trivial things are fine but stereotypically feminine trivial things aren't.

Le sigh.




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Re: [Gendergap] More about the Ada Lovelace initiative

2012-10-13 Thread Sarah Stierch

Fabulous news Lennart!

I have shared the recent press on our WikiWomen Collab Facebook and 
Twitter.


I'd love to get a blog - in English and Swedish, for our new WikiWomen 
blog[1] after the event takes place, with photographs.


I am impressed for sure, and cannot wait to ride this energy for 
WikiWomen's History Month in March! :)


-Sarah

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative/Blogs

On 10/9/12 7:04 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote:

Hello,

Something very cool has begun to happen in Sweden. Since the largest 
daily newspaper wrote about the Ada Lovelace editathon 
(http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/svenska-wikipeida-skapar-dag-for-kvinnoartiklar), 
we have seen a buzz in the social media.


A Swedish non-profit, Rättviseförmedlingen (the Fairness Bureau), 
which is devoted to making it easier for media to find female experts, 
have endorsed it 
(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151273255534750set=a.361483174749.189413.361481469749type=1theaternotif_t=photo_reply), 
which so far has been shared several dozen times on Facebook. That has 
also inspired other to send out invites to women across the internet. 
One example is this invite:


https://www.facebook.com/events/525660827448094/

It has been sent out to 4,500 persons, mostly women, and so far 593 
have accepted the invitation.


Just to give you some perspective: according to the statistics 
(http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediansEditsGt5.htm), there 
are about 800 active users (+5 edits) this month on Swedish Wikipedia. 
So, potentially, women could out-edit men on that day!



Best wishes,

Lennart Guldbrandsson

Personlig blogg http://mrchapel.wordpress.com
Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal

Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05


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Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility

2012-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
What I was most struck by was the hypocrisy: in Reddit's vision, freedom of
speech includes anonymously posting invasive images of teenagers, but
excludes posting the name of a 49-year-old programmer who anonymously posts
invasive images of teenagers.

No privacy rights for teenage girls, complete privacy rights for those who
invade their privacy. There are most definitely parallels to Wikimedia.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:

 Unmasking Reddit’s Violentacrez, The Biggest Troll on the Web


 https://gawker.com/5950981/

 One reason Violentacrez continued to occupy such a high-profile position
 on Reddit was of course his free speech rhetoric. But Violentacrez has
 historically had a close relationship with Reddit's staff, a fact far less
 well-known than his controversial behavior.

 For all his unpleasantness, they realized that Violentacrez was an
 excellent community moderator and could be counted on to keep the
 administrators abreast of any illegal content he came across.

 Wow, it's like Wikipedia's civility vs. established editors dynamic but
 with more misogyny, homophobia and racism...

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Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility

2012-10-13 Thread Risker
I'm not entirely certain that this has a lot to do with
civilityalthough it does certainly have a lot to do with respect for
women.  (It also reassures me that my decision to not create a facebook
account was wise in more ways than one.)

Nonetheless, one difference that was immediately apparent is the fact that
Violentacrez was pretty much at the top of the volunteer heap there: he
essentially had control of a large portion of their content, had
permissions and accesses even higher than any Wikipedia administrator has,
and clearly had direct communication and influence with the staff of
Reddit.  I can't think of someone who was equally trollish having the same
degree of access or influence on any Wikimedia project.  Yes, we have lots
of loud people and rude people and trolls.  But most of them are never
granted adminship (and I can think of only one or two who advanced beyond
that point in *any* WMF project), and none of them have anywhere near the
same degree of control of content.

Risker/Anne

On 13 October 2012 16:55, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 What I was most struck by was the hypocrisy: in Reddit's vision, freedom
 of speech includes anonymously posting invasive images of teenagers, but
 excludes posting the name of a 49-year-old programmer who anonymously posts
 invasive images of teenagers.

 No privacy rights for teenage girls, complete privacy rights for those who
 invade their privacy. There are most definitely parallels to Wikimedia.


 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:

 Unmasking Reddit’s Violentacrez, The Biggest Troll on the Web


 https://gawker.com/5950981/

 One reason Violentacrez continued to occupy such a high-profile position
 on Reddit was of course his free speech rhetoric. But Violentacrez has
 historically had a close relationship with Reddit's staff, a fact far less
 well-known than his controversial behavior.

 For all his unpleasantness, they realized that Violentacrez was an
 excellent community moderator and could be counted on to keep the
 administrators abreast of any illegal content he came across.

 Wow, it's like Wikipedia's civility vs. established editors dynamic but
 with more misogyny, homophobia and racism...

 --
 Tom Morris
 http://tommorris.org/



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