Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-02-02 Thread Christine Meyer
I remembered this thread as I began my most recent GAC-review, Mona Sax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Sax.  Sure enough, the nominator and main
editor of this article is the same guy who was topic-banned!  I only chose
it because I wanted to review an article and it's short.  I know almost
nothing about gaming, but not knowing about a topic has never stopped me
from reviewing an article; I tend to choose ones that are at the top of the
queue and to expand my knowledge about stuff I don't know much about.

I was still tempted, though, to fail it on principle, but that would be the
wrong principle.  The guy doesn't come across as all that smart; plus,
English isn't his native language and he's using that as an excuse for his
weak prose.  (As a second language-user myself, I tend to not accept that
as a reason to be a weak writer, since just because you're a native speaker
of English doesn't mean that you can write well in it, and plenty of
non-native speakers are good writers.)  Thus far, we're being polite with
each other, although I must admit that part of me wonders how it'll turn
out and if me being a girl will come into play.

Will keep you informed!

Christine
User: Figureskatingfan

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Diff of the quoted edit, for reference:


 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174



 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita
 Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia.

 If not, see


 http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/

 http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-and-misogyny-via-wikipedia/

 So now we have another ANI thread on her biography


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#BLP_issues_at_Anita_Sarkeesian

 The discussion is whether a chap who made the following comment (among
 many others) should be topic-banned from her biography:

 ---o0o---

 Now she has over 4 million views, which is a huge leap (relatively),
 despite not publishing any new videos since then - these 3 million new
 views, and a big fame (especially among gamers), and the notability (also
 on Wikipedia), and the money (from donations), all of it was only due to
 the massive trolling response to her trailer video for a Kickstarter
 project, which she then *media-savy way used to start a huge moral panic
 (a smooth move, I'll admit) instead of just ignoring it, or do things like [
 http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-06.phtmlcounter-attack
  literally using her vagina,
 * which is what Hepler did], and so this is what she is best known for
 (note: best).

 ---o0o---

 That guy is the most frequent editor of her biography's talk page, having
 made over three times more edits to it than the next editor.


 http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=enwikifam=.wikipedia.orggrouped=onpage=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesian

 The ANI discussion has been running for a week.

 Andreas



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[Gendergap] Please remember your words here are publicly viewable

2013-02-02 Thread Katherine Casey
Hi all,

I'm not a listmod, so this is no sort of an official communication, but I
want to remind everyone that this is a publicly-archived mailing list under
the umbrella of the WMF. This means that what you say here can, and
probably will, be seen by people not involved in the list, including other
Wikipedians, news organizations, and probably sometimes the people who are
being discussed here. Think before you hit send whether what you've said
is something that's appropriate to be saying in the manner you are, or in
any manner at all offwiki. This is a hugely supportive mailing list, and
that's awesome, but it's not the place to badmouth others or recruit
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