[Gendergap] A cautionary tale

2014-06-22 Thread Delphine Ménard
Hello,

I found this:

http://www.zdnet.com/quoras-misogyny-problem-a-cautionary-tale-730762/

an interesting read.

Cheers,

Delphine
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Re: [Gendergap] A cautionary tale

2014-06-22 Thread Carol Moore dc

On 6/22/2014 7:04 PM, Delphine Ménard wrote:


Hello,

I found this:

http://www.zdnet.com/quoras-misogyny-problem-a-cautionary-tale-730762/

an interesting read.

Cheers,

Delphine



Thanks for this. I wasn't even aware of this site.

There goes the theory that making editors register with their real names 
- or at least having to give them to admins should they act up 
obnoxiously - might solve the problem.


Quote from articles: " Sites that care can educate their admins and mods 
about online harassment, on detecting racist and sexist language, on 
conflict resolution and conflict diffusion, target and non-target 
status, and backhanded attacks (aka "poisoning the well")."


That WOULD be a real good start.

But women have to demand it.  It's really all about the willingness to 
raise a fuss. Some small groupings in wikipeida do it and thereby not 
only have bad actions/words/ideas removed post haste, but enjoy undue 
tolerance for their making exaggerated or trumped up claims of bigotry 
in order to get their way in articles with only occasional 
consequences.  However, hint that there's something called "sexism" 
involved in various situations and one is ignored, scorned for making 
false charges, or told they just can't handle it or are obnoxious and 
should just leave Wikipedia.


A lot of women used to be outspoken about all this here when this email 
list started, but that stopped after a bunch of guys joined and started 
hassling them about it.

SURPRISE!!

Can you hear a pin dropping?

CM




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