Gosh, I did make a pig's ear out of it didn't I. I didn't realize the list had
two Sarahs on it.
Third time lucky
In a discussion about off-Wiki mentions of editors, I was making a comparison
between Carol Moore's suspension which she mentioned here
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-June/004397.html in answer
to SlimVirgin (aka Sarah), in which Carol said:
> "questioning behavior too aggressively off wikipedia evidently remains a no
> no. I was once blocked for a week for asking an editor whether his
> overwhelming history of editing in articles about bondage of females was
> related to his obvious and annoying harassment of me on a noticeboard, after
> which I mentioned the issue on the Wikia Feminism page which I thought was a
> part of Wikipedia (duh). The latter evidently was the bigger "no no"."
...and some of the stuff in an article on A Voice for Men's website.
The third paragraph of this message
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-June/004409.html therefore
should have read (correction in capital letters):
> I entered "Wikipedia" and "male rights activists" and got this
> http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fighting-wikipedia-corruption-censorship/
> which has a comments section at the bottom with current Wikipedia members
> mentioning other Wikipedia editors by name and talk of a great conspiracy at
> work against them, if CAROL was suspended for her off-site comments then how
> is this permissible?
And LtPowers point that Wikipedia may simply not know is correct. Perhaps,
editors just have to run the gauntlet / try and recruit more women / be a bit
more pro-active about looking for and reporting off-wiki activities which break
the rules and not just leave it to moderators. With that in mind I have
reported the article to WP:ANI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Off-wiki_comments.2C_possible_multiple_policy_infringements
Marie
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 20:31:42 -0700
From: slimvir...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of Gendergap-L
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote:
On Jun 30, 2014 11:14 PM, "Sarah" wrote:
> Jeremy, which quote is this? I recall someone on this list saying that
> someone called Sarah was suspended (unclear what's meant) for an off-wiki
> comment. (Or something like that; I can't find the original.) I can't think
> of how that might apply to me, and Sarah Stierch has said it doesn't apply to
> her.
See this message from earlier on this thread:
On Jun 29, 2014 8:30 PM Eastern, "Marie Earley" wrote:
> My apologies it was Carol Moore responding to Sarah Stierch earlier on, I
> mentioned it from memory,
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-June/004397.html
If you follow Marie's link and then dig up the original message quoted at the
link from "Sarah" you'll find it was SlimVirgin not Sarah Stierch (Marie
apparently misattributed).
I haven't read all the mails, just did a bit of digging.
Okay, thanks, Jeremy. I don't follow what it's about, but the original comment
wasn't made by me or about me, and the comment that seemed to be about Sarah
Stierch was a misunderstanding.
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