Re: [Gendergap] Opinion pieces on cisgender...Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-20 Thread LB
You know what I want? A place where women can come together and talk. I
hope they won't get hung up on - or especially belittle each other - if
they prefer to say *about themselves* "I am a woman," or "I am a cisgender
woman," or "I am a woman-born-woman," or "I am a trans-woman," or whatever.

And I sure hope that wouldn't be the main thing we talked about.


Lightbreather

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Carol Moore dc 
wrote:

> Since I started a minor brouhaha on cisgender, I figured I should provide
> some examples of women (and feminists) who dislike the phrase.  Frankly, I
> never have gotten a handle on what gender means and never use the phrase
> gender at all except in gender gap, only because "sex gap" obviously is not
> useable.  I think sexual stereotypes - and the resultant imposed sexual
> roles, sexual discrimination, sexual abuse, etc. -  are the problem; all
> this talk about gender confuses the issue. People who are born intersex may
> choose to use that phase or identify with one sex or the other. Those who
> state they are really individuals of the opposite sex trapped in the wrong
> body certainly can define themselves as transgenders or transsexuals.  But
> trying to redefine all individuals (straight, gay/lesbian or bi) by whether
> or not they are transgender or cisgender is absurd.
>
> http://sarahditum.com/2014/04/21/notes-from-a-non-cis-woman/
>
> http://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/a-
> feminist-critique-of-cisgender/
>
> http://bugbrennan.com/2012/12/12/cisterhood-is-powerful/
>
> http://uppitybiscuit.wordpress.com/2007/01/19/do-
> not-call-me-cisgender-you-do-not-have-my-permission-to-name-me/
>
> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/378511/cis-ridiculous-
> christine-sisto
>
> http://bmgnedra.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/sscabdscab-
> reframing-the-conversation/
>
> http://glosswatch.com/2014/04/20/beauty-and-the-cis/
> http://glosswatch.com/2014/04/24/9-reasons-why-cis-isnt-working/
>
> http://bigboobutch.com/2013/09/16/cis-queerly-not-yours/
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Opinion pieces on cisgender...Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-20 Thread A. Mani
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Carol Moore dc
 wrote:
> Since I started a minor brouhaha on cisgender, I figured I should provide
> some examples of women (and feminists) who dislike the phrase.

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/01/being-called-cis-is-not-oppressive


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Re: [Gendergap] surveys of active female editors?

2015-01-20 Thread Amanda Menking
Hi All,

These are all really good and complex questions because individual differences, 
areas of work within Wikipedia, and personal experiences can greatly affect why 
an editor of any gender chooses to stay or go. From my research thus far, I do, 
however, think the predominant culture and norms on EN Wikipedia tend to make 
it more challenging for editors who are more “feminine” (e.g., not more female 
or only women).

I have done and am continuing to do some work re: these questions. See 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_and_Wikipedia/Midpoint.

Part of the challenge is that interviews (e.g., scheduling, conducting, 
transcribing, member checking, coding, analysis) are time intensive, but the 
provide much richer and deeper information than surveys. Also, participants 
tend to self-select for both. I’ve spoken with only a few women who don’t like 
the term “gender gap” and who don’t see a lack of women participating as a 
problem in and of itself. Also, I’ve found it difficult to recruit men to 
participate. I would love to interview trolls too, but again—no takers yet.

I’ll be publishing my final IEG report on April 1. If my participants grant 
permission, I’ll share the anonymized, redacted transcripts as well as the 
survey results and 9 months of Gendergap mailing list data my students and I 
have coded and analyzed.

An excerpt from a note (currently in press) I’ve written with Ingrid Erickson 
(Rutgers) re: early findings:

Wikipedia, perhaps the most successful large-scale, online collaboration in the 
world, is a storied space of democratic values and meritocracy in action—as 
many within the CHI and CSCW communities have extensively detailed 
[e.g.,13,18,19,22,23,24]. Yet underneath its idealized veneer, Wikipedia in 
practice proves to have a notable gender gap. Unlike user distribution reports 
on social media platforms, which trend more toward representative parity or 
even a greater number of female users [7], surveys of Wikipedia users indicate 
the overwhelming majority of contributors are male [14]. Both the popular media 
[e.g., 9,21,27] and scholars [e.g., 1,6,20] have begun to explore Wikipedia’s 
participation disparities, raising questions about editor recruitment and 
retention, content coverage and bias, and the tension between diversity and 
territoriality [10].

Recently, Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, admitted that the Wikimedia 
Foundation (WMF) has “completely failed” [29] to meet its goal of increasing 
the number of female participants to 25% by 2015. In February 2011 in response 
to an article published in The New York Times [5], then Executive Director of 
WMF, Sue Gardner, asked her Deputy Director Erik Möller to create the Gendergap 
mailing list, a publicly archived listserv “provided by the Wikimedia 
Foundation as a communication tool to collectively address the realities of the 
gender gap” [28]. In September 2014, a male Wikipedian posted the following 
message to the list: “I think there should be a separate site for the gender 
gap effort […] where women and men interested in narrowing the gender gap and 
documenting the existing problems can exchange views in an atmosphere 
undisturbed by men pretending to be women, men opposed to narrowing the gender 
gap, men arguing that it's not really proven that the gender gap is a problem.” 
Even within a dedicated listserv, the topic of gender parity proves to be 
volatile. Lam et al.[20] confirm this social complexity, noting a “culture that 
may be resistant to female participation” [20:9].

However, Wikipedia’s gender gap is typically framed as a “woman problem” [8]. 
It has been attributed to women’s lack of discretionary time [6], sensitivity 
to conflict and criticism [6], desire to be more social [21], and hesitancy to 
learn technical skills such as the Wiki mark-up language [11]. In August 2014, 
Wikimedia Deutschland published a diversity report indicating that, although 
the picture is complex, “lack of time, technical usability barriers (e.g. 
navigation, editability), and a variety of sociocultural and communication 
issues (style of communication, working atmosphere) can […] definitely be 
identified as reasons for low female participation in Wikipedia” [4].

Despite the perception of the gender gap as a “woman problem,” women do 
actively contribute to different language Wikipedias across the world. Women 
lead local chapters, sustain sister projects, and work for and chair the WMF. 
Women who have similar edit counts to men are more likely to become 
administrators [21] and make more sizeable revisions [1] than men do. This note 
reports early findings that suggest there is something to be learned about the 
possible cause(s) and consequences of Wikipedia’s gender gap by looking more 
closely at the experiences of women actively engaged in the community. What are 
their experiences like? What challenges do they face? How do they persevere? We 
posit that many women Wikipedians e

[Gendergap] Woman in a WikiWorld

2015-01-20 Thread J Hayes
HASTAC blog post

http://www.hastac.org/blogs/alicia-pileggi/2015/01/16/woman-wikiworld-0
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Re: [Gendergap] [Wikimedia-l] surveys of active female editors?

2015-01-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
+1.

Here are some more questions that I would be interested in having answers
to:

-- What do women who are presently editing find most demotivating about
contributing to Wikipedia?

-- Have they ever thought of throwing in the towel, and what were the
reasons?

-- Based on past experience, what aspect of Wikimedia/Wikipedia culture
would be most likely to cause them to stop editing at some point in the
future?

-- What change, if any, would they welcome most to feel good about
contributing?

You'd need a male control group for comparative work, to establish whether
any of the answers are gender-specific.

Crossposted to gendergap list. (Maybe someone with access to the research
mailing list might like to crosspost this thread there as well.)

Andreas



On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:22 AM, LB  wrote:

> I want to push a "Like" button on this one. How. Why. I would love to know
> the answer to these questions. Also, for those who aren't active - why?
>
>
> Lightbreather
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:14 PM, James Salsman 
> wrote:
>
> > Are there any surveys of active female editors which have asked how
> > they started editing?
> >
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[Gendergap] "Lighten Up"

2015-01-20 Thread Val Fontis
I don’t usually post to this list, but since I have a sense of  humor, and all 
y’all do too, I thought you might find this AfD thread in which I participated 
amusing:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rebecca_Dunn

 

We’ve got a long way to go, baby. (humorous reference to old ad for “feminine” 
cigarettes)

 

Valfontis

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