Re: [Gendergap] Forbes Top 100 Women List
There are many forms of bias. All 10 of those previously without bios are notable in the field of business. It would be difficult to make an exact comparison with men at a similar level, but I would expect similar results--many CEOs of even of the most important companies in the world are not included in WP. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I got five stubs up. I would also recommend revising the cat to reflect the year noted on the list. I'll probably spend time working on Maria das Graças Silva Foster and Sheri McCoy (Avon) today. My mother retired after 20-some-odd years working as the executive of sales and management training with Avon Products, so several executive bios have been on my list of things to do for quite a while now. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/23/12 4:35 PM, Ryan Vesey wrote: Thanks for that list Sarah and congrats Sue! I’ve begun working on some sub-stubs for the red linked women. I plan on circling back to expand them once I have turned all of the links blue. I’ve also created a new category (Category:Forbes most powerful women). I’m adding the articles I create to that, but I’ve decided to hold off on adding more until someone else comments on it. That is awesome Ryan! Thank you. Do you think that the category should be based on year as a subcategory in that main category? I'll bring this up on the talk page. :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Forbes_most_powerful_women -Sarah From: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Stierch Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:01 PM To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: [Gendergap] Forbes Top 100 Women List Hi everyone, Forbes Magazine released their list of the world's 100 most powerful women. Wikimedia Foundation's own Sue Gardner is #70! Very very cool :) Congratulations Sue! http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2012/08/22/the-worlds-100-most-powerful-women-2012-this-year-its-all-about-impact/ For fun, I made a not so glamorous list of the top 100 women and their article quality, you can see it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch/100power Starts win the award for the most, at 52. The three FA's are popular culture icons (the Queen of England, Angelina Jolie and JK Rowling - the latter Sue beat out on the list ;D ). Two of the top five are in that area (...as is Sue's article). You'll also find a few red links, and who knows what this list looks like in your preferred language or project. A nice starting point for edit-a-thons, personal wiki-agendas, and improvement. -Sarah -- Sarah Stierch Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow Mind the gap! Support Wikipedia women's outreach: donate today No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5220 - Release Date: 08/23/12 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Sarah Stierch Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow Mind the gap! Support Wikipedia women's outreach: donate today ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Best regards, Cindy Ashley-Nelson Yes. Her again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cindamuse ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Article for deletion Fanny Imlay
The argument for Savage was that an exception should be made for bibliographies, discographies, and so forth, where we would do better to provide complete coverage since it quite easy to do something which can well be crowd-sourced, fits in with our basic mission, is appropriate to do in conjunction with articles rather than as some sort of separate database. I opposed the Savage material as a separate article, would still oppose it today, but I wouldn't now oppose having the material: I think the best way to do this is with subpages. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Been there. Done that. It isn't only women's topics. Because Justin Bieber is unpopular and actively disliked by some people, (Though I guess you could argue this example relates to a topic of interest to many young girls) there was an attempt to merge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber_on_Twitter in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber , with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Justin_Bieber#Merger_proposal making it clear the reason is I don't like this. The article had about 100 sources around the time the article was nominated for merge. Lady Gaga, the most followed person on Twitter and woo hoo female to boot! has had other people ask why the article isn't deleted. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lady_Gaga_on_Twitter#Request_for_deletion:_Is_this_page_really_relevant.3F . I have another topic I wrote on where the regional women's stuff should be generic to all women playing the sport or to the region. If neither article currently exist, [[WP:SOFIXIT]] by creating the new and relevant articles. Information is power and what is on Wikipedia has the potential to shape greater understanding around issues. Thus, a battle for what should and should not be there. Wow, YMMV, but I think it's really odd to have whole long articles devoted to a Twitter account. What is and isn't broken out from main topic articles is often controversial, whether criticism sections or detailed information on specifically consequential periods, but an article on a Twitter account is an outlier in my reading experience. One of the arguments on the talk page for Fanny Imlay was that the sources cited included information about her only incidentally in the course of covering other people, as opposed to being primarily about her (presumably with the exception of the biography). I don't know enough about the subject or the sources to know if this is the case, but it's an argument that might apply to Justin Bieber on Twitter. The articles discussing his Twitter usage are really about Justin Bieber and his behavior, not his Twitter account. See for example[1], a short mention in Ashton Kutcher's bio about his Twitter use. Kutcher is also among the most prominent users of that service in its history, but there is no article devoted to it. Rather than seeing the merge proposal as an example of I don't like it, I think the fact that it failed demonstrates the power of a gigantic fanbase to distort normal practice on a wiki. One of the problems I personally have with those articles is that it stretches to definition of Wikipedia as a summary resource. If we aim to be exhaustive, in the way those articles represent, where does it end? As Nathan says; this is a prime example of POV pushing/distortion. If I wrote a lengthy article about the details of messages Dudley Clarke sent back and forth to John Bevan during World War II (and article I could quite easily source) the community would, quite rightly, delete it. Tom ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Supporting Campus Ambassador programs [Fwd: Issue of Copy-Pasting]
. Many thanks. hisham ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art and Sarah Stierch Consulting Historical, cultural artistic research advising. -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
