Re: [Gendergap] "Is Wikipedia Woke?"
Yes, Rob is right, the Bloomberg photographer did seek individual information and permission. Most people just put their given names on the nametags anyway, the photographer followed up with asking if they wanted to be included and how they wanted to be attributed. Thanks, Pharos On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Robert Fernandez <wikigamal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some of the editors were identified by names which did not appear on their > name tags, and at least one was not identified by name in the caption, only > by user name. That appears to indicate that the photographer sought > individual information and permission. I'll ping some of the NYC folks who > were there and ask them to clear this up. > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If BBW failed to confirm that photos with nametags were OK with any of >> those they depicted, yes, that would be a problem. I'm confident they would >> want to know about that, and I'd be happy to pass that feedback along if it >> hasn't already been delivered. >> >> But is there any reason to believe that happened? >> Pete >> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >> >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:39 AM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> yes and some time dilation >>> and taking pictures of people with user name tags on, so outing >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This feature article from Bloomberg BusinessWeek does, IMO, a great job >>>> of exploring and contextualizing Wikipedia's diversity issues. The >>>> reporters really did their homework on this one, taking the time to explore >>>> all angles. >>>> >>>> There are certainly a few factual errors, the most egregious are >>>> probably the confusing between policy and guideline on paid editing, and >>>> the conflation of Wikipedia and WMF in a couple places. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> >>>> Is Wikipedia Woke? >>>> The ubiquitous reference site tries to expand its editor ranks beyond >>>> the Comic Con set. >>>> by Dimitra Kessenides and Max Chafkin >>>> December 22, 2016 >>>> >>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-22/how-woke- >>>> is-wikipedia-s-editorial-pool >>>> >>>> -Pete >>>> -- >>>> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > ___ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Systematic tagging for deletion of articles created at Art And Feminism editathon
No, from what I've seen there were more difficulties in locations that didn't use the draft template (we implemented the draft template pretty last-minute, so it wasn't everywhere). But I'm biased, because I helped to design the template :) Thanks, Pharos On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you think the draft templates were the issue? Maybe I'm overly cynical, > perhaps they advertised the fact that they were created by arts and > feminism to sexist wikipedians. > > From, > Emily > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pharos <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This is actually the 3rd year of Art+Feminism, and the organizers' focus >> has consistently been on improving existing articles (particularly stubs!), >> as most appropriate to new Wikipedians, particularly at this scale of >> effort. >> >> Of course some new Wikipedians are eager to start new articles, and we >> accommodate that as best we can, both with personal assistance from >> long-term Wikipedians where possible, and also technical innovations like >> the draft template system we premiered this year. >> >> Thanks, >> Pharos >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I very much agree, Emily. I wonder if this time, perhaps all the >>> (wonderful and timely) media coverage of Emily Temple Wood's efforts to >>> create new articles may have influenced organizers and/or participants? >>> Perhaps it created a bit of a consensus, conscious or unconscious, that >>> *creating new articles* was the main desired result. >>> >>> If so, this might be a bit of a one-time anomaly, may not indicate a >>> need for major changes. >>> >>> -Pete >>> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In general, creating articles are very difficult. The learning curve is >>>> steep, and it may be best to have people expand/improve articles instead of >>>> creating them. >>>> >>>> From, >>>> Emily >>>> On Mar 12, 2016 11:48 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I find it disappointing that so many of the Art and Feminism >>>>> editathons end up focusing almost exclusively on creating new articles for >>>>> artists at the hosting institution. Not only does this lead to a high >>>>> percentage of the articles being deleted, but it's a waste of a huge >>>>> opportunity to create and expand articles about artists and artworks with >>>>> unquestionable notability and high encyclopedic value. >>>>> >>>>> I have no doubt that many of the Art and Feminism articles that are >>>>> nominated for deletion are nominated due to gender bias (as some of them >>>>> seem rather trivial to find sources for and improve), but many of them are >>>>> also legitimately on the notability borderline. At all of the Art and >>>>> Feminism editathons that I've volunteered at, I've discouraged people from >>>>> creating articles about people they knew personally, and encouraged them >>>>> to >>>>> use the lists at >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>>>> instead. If you are helping to run an Art and Feminism editathon, I would >>>>> also suggest doing this, as it provides more value for Wikipedia and leads >>>>> to fewer deletions. I would also like to encourage everyone to edit the >>>>> lists at >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>>>> and help keep them full of good suggestions. Editathons are a great tool >>>>> for addressing the gendergap, and I would hate for them to get a >>>>> reputation >>>>> for just being self-promotional events. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Carol Moore dc < >>>>> carolmoor...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Someone should write a letter to the editor of the those 5 or 6 >>>>>> publications that came in my google alerts on the topic of the edit a >>>>>> thon. >>>>>> (Search news google to find them.) And of course deal with the few >>>>>
Re: [Gendergap] Systematic tagging for deletion of articles created at Art And Feminism editathon
This is actually the 3rd year of Art+Feminism, and the organizers' focus has consistently been on improving existing articles (particularly stubs!), as most appropriate to new Wikipedians, particularly at this scale of effort. Of course some new Wikipedians are eager to start new articles, and we accommodate that as best we can, both with personal assistance from long-term Wikipedians where possible, and also technical innovations like the draft template system we premiered this year. Thanks, Pharos On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > I very much agree, Emily. I wonder if this time, perhaps all the > (wonderful and timely) media coverage of Emily Temple Wood's efforts to > create new articles may have influenced organizers and/or participants? > Perhaps it created a bit of a consensus, conscious or unconscious, that > *creating new articles* was the main desired result. > > If so, this might be a bit of a one-time anomaly, may not indicate a need > for major changes. > > -Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> In general, creating articles are very difficult. The learning curve is >> steep, and it may be best to have people expand/improve articles instead of >> creating them. >> >> From, >> Emily >> On Mar 12, 2016 11:48 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> I find it disappointing that so many of the Art and Feminism editathons >>> end up focusing almost exclusively on creating new articles for artists at >>> the hosting institution. Not only does this lead to a high percentage of >>> the articles being deleted, but it's a waste of a huge opportunity to >>> create and expand articles about artists and artworks with unquestionable >>> notability and high encyclopedic value. >>> >>> I have no doubt that many of the Art and Feminism articles that are >>> nominated for deletion are nominated due to gender bias (as some of them >>> seem rather trivial to find sources for and improve), but many of them are >>> also legitimately on the notability borderline. At all of the Art and >>> Feminism editathons that I've volunteered at, I've discouraged people from >>> creating articles about people they knew personally, and encouraged them to >>> use the lists at >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>> instead. If you are helping to run an Art and Feminism editathon, I would >>> also suggest doing this, as it provides more value for Wikipedia and leads >>> to fewer deletions. I would also like to encourage everyone to edit the >>> lists at >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks and >>> help keep them full of good suggestions. Editathons are a great tool for >>> addressing the gendergap, and I would hate for them to get a reputation for >>> just being self-promotional events. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Carol Moore dc < >>> carolmoor...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Someone should write a letter to the editor of the those 5 or 6 >>>> publications that came in my google alerts on the topic of the edit a thon. >>>> (Search news google to find them.) And of course deal with the few >>>> legtimate complaints and the trolls with nonsense complaints. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/12/2016 10:17 AM, Neotarf wrote: >>>> >>>>> All the articles created at Regina ArtAndFeminism event have been >>>>> tagged. Ten of them have been submitted for deletion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Regina/ArtAndFeminism_2016/University_of_Regina >>>>> >>>>> For example, see comments here: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Risa_Horowitz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >&g
Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
I would also advise as a good strategy partnering with an outside group, whether an academic or nonprofit organization, or just an interested academic or activist and their circle of colleagues/students. And make sure they feel this is their event, and give them top billing, It doesn't have to specifically be women's groups - almost any academic or nonprofit grouping is going to have more gender diversity (and more experience in a lot of needed areas) than what you would catch with just on-wiki outreach. I would say a measure of success is when you find "new" people are able to "own" this activity in events with different themes, and spreading this type of outreach to more circles and areas of interest, and I think we've seen a fair amount of this in NYC in the past year or so. Thanks, Pharos On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Keilana, Lennart and J, > > Thanks for the feedback. Based on your suggestions, if we try this again, > we might try moving to weekend dates and slowing our cadence to alternate > weeks. > > We're hoping that the University of Washington Libraries will identify > someone on their staff who they're already funding and would be interested > in accepting a Wikimedian-in-Residence role. If this happens then perhaps > one of the WiR's roles can be to lead these events. Alternatively, with > Cascadia Wikimeidans slowly but surely growing our number of regular > Wikimedians, perhaps one of our members will want to take on UW editathons > as his or her main project. > > Another question that I have is about scaling. We're scaling quite slowly > and incrementally overall, but have had zero growth in the past 12 months > with our number of regular female attendees. I'm told that very slow growth > is normal for affiliates. I'd like to see us grow our numbers, which in > turn would enable us to do more outreach events and generate a positive > feedback loop. Any suggestions about how to make that happen, particularly > with potential female contributors who are very underrepresented among our > population of regular attendees? > > Thanks, > Pine > > ___ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon
I think a North of England effort that focused on events and activities to expand underrepresented content on Wikipedia would be worthwhile. Although it is not your main goal, it might be strategically wise to launch such a thing in time for the international Art+Feminism campaign in March 2016, and then build off of that momentum to take on other underrepresented topic areas. Thanks, Pharos On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Marie Earley <eir...@hotmail.com> wrote: > There's a comedian / political activist in the UK, Rob Newman, > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Newman_%28comedian%29 who talked > about his political activism and how he would talk to other activists, > saying, we should do this and that, they would answer, "That's a great > idea, why don't you do that?" It's a fair point. > > The thing is I'm based in the North of England and the last local meet-up > had six people sign up to it and three of them added "hopefully I'll be > able to make it". I'm not quite sure what sort of attendance a feminism+ > [whatever] would have up here.* > > The women in leadership stuff sounds interesting though. > > Marie > > > > * Please no-one suggest a London edit-a-thon, London-centrism is a pet > hate of mine. > > > -- > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:25:48 -0500 > From: risker...@gmail.com > To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism > Wikipedia Edit-a-thon > > > Is that you I see volunteering to organize one, Marie? :-) > > I suspect that is the reason, to be honest - nobody specifically taking > the bull by the horns. It requires interest in the subject, and a > willingness and ability to organize the events. Economics is not a > particularly popular subject (comparatively speaking) in the Wikipedia > world - the entire topic area could use a lot of work, not just the aspects > relating to women or feminism - and like anything else, the smaller the > number of people participating in a topic area, the less likely there will > be individuals who take on the challenge of organizing collaborative > events. > > As to Women in Politics, I think this is probably (at least for women in > Western countries) one of the better covered areas, simply because most of > our major language Wikipedias treat all politicians at what they consider > to be notable levels of government in pretty much the same way, using > essentially standardized formats. > > Risker/Anne > > On 6 November 2015 at 06:16, Marie Earley <eir...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > As much as I like to see an event like this happening, and the Women in > Science event, I'm left wondering why there are no similar events for Women > in Politics or Economics + Feminism. > > Marie > > -- > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:47:08 -0500 > From: i...@art.plusfeminism.org > To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Gendergap] Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism Wikipedia > Edit-a-thon > > > Dear Gender gap mailing list members, > > We are in the process of organizing the third annual international > Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. The New York event will be held at the > Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA on > Saturday, March 5, 2016. We are looking for support in the form of > participants and suggestions. > > Last year, over 1500 participants at the Museum of Modern Art in New York > and more than 75 node events around the world participated in > Art+Feminism’s second annual Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, resulting in the > creation of nearly 400 new pages and significant improvements to 500 > articles on Wikipedia. *Together, we can double those numbers in 2016! * > > If you’re interested in hosting an edit-a-thon in your city over the > weekend of March 4-6, 2016, please be in touch. There are funds available > to help node events pay for childcare and refreshments. You can reach us > at: i...@art.plusfeminism.org. > > If you want to help out in other ways, we are also gathering research > materials for the March event: > > >- Suggested Topics >- Articles needing creation >- Articles needing expansion and/or cleanup >- Suggestions for online research materials on women and the arts >- Any existing documentation you might be willing to share on >Wikipedia editing or conflict resolution online >- You can find more information about the project and upcoming events >on our meet-up page: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism >- Or on our website: http://art.plusfeminism.org > > > I encourage you to forward this message on a
Re: [Gendergap] Upcoming omen in architecture edit-a-thon
If anyone would like to host a local event for the Women in Architecture campaign this month, I'd be glad to put you in touch with the Guggenheim folks. Here is the current global events listing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Women_in_Architecture Thanks, Pharos On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight < rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Women in Red's third online edit-a-thon is scheduled from October 15-25. > The focus will be improving and creating new content for women in > architecture. On Thursday, October 15, the Solomon R. Guggenheim > Foundation, in collaboration with the Beverly Willis Architecture > Foundation, Harvard’s Women in Design, and WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design, > is hosting a daylong editathon at the Guggenheim that will include > programming, editing, and an architectural tour of the museum. If you can’t > join in person, sign up to work remotely: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Women_in_Architecture > > New York event: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Women_in_Architecture > Online edit-a-thon: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Women_in_Red/3 > > Hope you'll join in! > > > Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight > User:Rosiestep > @rosiestep > Linkedin:rosiestephenson > > ___ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?
I like the idea of experimenting with new knowledgespaces, with new workflows to support them. With enough investment in design, I think this could be done on a large scale right in the project namespace of English Wikipedia. Thanks, Pharos On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sarah (SV) slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jason. I enjoyed reading this, though the conclusions remind me of _Seeing Like a State_. Not all edits, editors, and subcommunities are equal. Trying to shift about contributors en masse in a way that is convenient for large organizations (or for those of us who like crunching large datasets :) can be a total failure in practice. Let's set up a new space where we can experiment with fast influxes of newbies. The current large projects are not suited for this. I believe good design is a key issue for editor attraction and retention, so that we can produce professional-looking articles we can be proud of and want to write. I would also love to see the Foundation redesign the front page. It's hard for the community to take the lead when it comes to design, and it seems to fall off the radar when people discuss editor retention and gender gap. Sarah ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday
Yes, the idea is to be extra inclusionary by reaching out to all these
groups explicitly, and in particular to representing different cultural
identities in rather non-monolithic African American / African Diasporic
communities.
Thanks,
Pharos
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com
wrote:
On Mar 23, 2015 11:25 AM, Neotarf neot...@gmail.com wrote:
I've never seen editithons that exclude people before. I've been to a
couple of black history events, and all were welcomed, although of course
there was a very high proportion of African descent.
I think the point was actually to be extra inclusionary: to cover all of
the above not just a subset when recruiting new editors. So potential
recruits don't think but I'm not really {{label}} and exclude themselves.
I'm pretty sure others won't be excluded but these events will be
*focused* on topics related to those groups and editors with some sort of a
connection to Africa. To address biases similarly to women focused outreach
but with a twist thrown in: adding a new language to Wikipedia too, they
started already Garifuna Wikipedia on incubator.
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cab
-Jeremy
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Re: [Gendergap] Addressing incivility (was: men on lists)
I think the closest thing we have with these capabilities is the Wikimedia OTRS system: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS Specific queues can be customized in many ways, I believe, though others will know more about this. Thanks, Pharos On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Moriel Schottlender mor...@gmail.com wrote: Janine, Ryan, Pete and Moriel, these are great ideas. I love the idea of a button that anyone can press to send an alert to a Wikiquette team. How can an idea like this be moved forward? There could be different levels of urgency (low: general incivility; medium: sexism, racism, homophobia; high: harassment, outing, threats). In the forum, we made it so that while no one sees the report publicly, the moderators do see the name (or user name) of the reporter (we don't share that outside the moderation team, though) We found that this helps us mediate problems of harassment-by-reporting and to spot potential underlying issues with a repeat offender. So, for example, we can recognize when a user consistently over-reports another user for no reason (or petty reasons) which can also be harassment. I'm not sure if this is possible in Wikipedia itself, we might want to see if we need another tool just for that. Do you think that having to use an external tool is realistic for a Wikipedia group, though? We use external tools for development (like bugzilla) but I am not sure what the reaction would be for something like this when an on-wiki team is involved. (I might be missing an option of having this semi-closed/hidden space on-wiki) -- No trees were harmed in the creation of this post. But billions of electrons, photons, and electromagnetic waves were terribly inconvenienced during its transmission! ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Feb 1 Art+Feminism Editathon Online/IRC Assistance
It would be great if we could get a few more online volunteers to help with the editathons on February 1 on-wiki and in the #Wikimedia-gendergap channel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism#Online_participants (Of course, if you can attend a live event, that's great too!) Thanks, Pharos ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Women in Islam wiki-course
If anyone is interested in helping to improve Wikipedia articles related to women in the Islamic world, this is a promising wiki-course this semester at Colgate University in NY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USEP_Women_in_Religious_Traditions:_Islam_%28Aisha_Musa%29 Please let me know if you'd like to volunteer as 'Online Ambassador', and I'd be glad to put you in touch with Aisha Musa, the professor for this course, Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Ada Lovelace Day
October/November is also the the high season of Open Access Week and Wikipedia Loves Libraries events, so there is potential for cross-promotion there too! Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: Hi all, Daria Cybulska (at WMUK) and I are working on organising an event for Ada Lovelace Day (16th October, though ours may fall on the 19th) - http://findingada.com/about/ - ...an international day celebrating the achievements of women in science, technology, engineering and maths. We're modelling it on Sarah's Women in Science event at the Smithsonian from earlier this year - which, by happy coincidence, was on almost the same topic, so we get to crib shamelessly. ;-) http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Case_studies/Smithsonian_Institution_Archives/Women_in_Science_Edit-a-thon Has anyone run an event around Lovelace Day in the past? Is anyone else thinking about doing so? We'd be interested to hear about it, if so... Thanks, - Andrew. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Article for deletion Fanny Imlay
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com wrote: The argument for Savage was that an exception should be made for bibliographies, discographies, and so forth, where we would do better to provide complete coverage since it quite easy to do something which can well be crowd-sourced, fits in with our basic mission, is appropriate to do in conjunction with articles rather than as some sort of separate database. I opposed the Savage material as a separate article, would still oppose it today, but I wouldn't now oppose having the material: I think the best way to do this is with subpages. As an aside, I have played with classifying some of our non-standard article types (without judging them!) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Encyclopedic_genre Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Been there. Done that. It isn't only women's topics. Because Justin Bieber is unpopular and actively disliked by some people, (Though I guess you could argue this example relates to a topic of interest to many young girls) there was an attempt to merge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber_on_Twitter in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber , with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Justin_Bieber#Merger_proposal making it clear the reason is I don't like this. The article had about 100 sources around the time the article was nominated for merge. Lady Gaga, the most followed person on Twitter and woo hoo female to boot! has had other people ask why the article isn't deleted. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lady_Gaga_on_Twitter#Request_for_deletion:_Is_this_page_really_relevant.3F . I have another topic I wrote on where the regional women's stuff should be generic to all women playing the sport or to the region. If neither article currently exist, [[WP:SOFIXIT]] by creating the new and relevant articles. Information is power and what is on Wikipedia has the potential to shape greater understanding around issues. Thus, a battle for what should and should not be there. Wow, YMMV, but I think it's really odd to have whole long articles devoted to a Twitter account. What is and isn't broken out from main topic articles is often controversial, whether criticism sections or detailed information on specifically consequential periods, but an article on a Twitter account is an outlier in my reading experience. One of the arguments on the talk page for Fanny Imlay was that the sources cited included information about her only incidentally in the course of covering other people, as opposed to being primarily about her (presumably with the exception of the biography). I don't know enough about the subject or the sources to know if this is the case, but it's an argument that might apply to Justin Bieber on Twitter. The articles discussing his Twitter usage are really about Justin Bieber and his behavior, not his Twitter account. See for example[1], a short mention in Ashton Kutcher's bio about his Twitter use. Kutcher is also among the most prominent users of that service in its history, but there is no article devoted to it. Rather than seeing the merge proposal as an example of I don't like it, I think the fact that it failed demonstrates the power of a gigantic fanbase to distort normal practice on a wiki. One of the problems I personally have with those articles is that it stretches to definition of Wikipedia as a summary resource. If we aim to be exhaustive, in the way those articles represent, where does it end? As Nathan says; this is a prime example of POV pushing/distortion. If I wrote a lengthy article about the details of messages Dudley Clarke sent back and forth to John Bevan during World War II (and article I could quite easily source) the community would, quite rightly, delete it. Tom ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Editing Girl Talk
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Max, a campus ambassador, voices his thoughts about women, Wikimedia and campus ambassadors. Who's Max? sbm ;) That would be Max Klein, current Regional Campus Ambassador for the New England area. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Editing Girl Talk
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Max, a campus ambassador, voices his thoughts about women, Wikimedia and campus ambassadors. Who's Max? sbm ;) That would be Max Klein, current Regional Campus Ambassador for the New England area. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) ps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [cultural-partners] Fwd: [Wikimediaau-l] AdaCamp Melbourne (Jan 14): apply today!
I notice this event is close enough to 'Wikipedia Day' that you could double it up as an Australian wiki-bash for the 11th anniversary (just do all your awesome regular AdaCamp things, and then add cake!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Day Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: If people from outside Australia are considering attending but one event seems hard to justify, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/University_of_Canberra/RCC2012 RecentChangesCamp is the next weekend. :) TThe event traditionally attracts a large number of female participants and this past year, we had two or three people from local GLAMs attending. :) Sincerely, Laura Hale -- Forwarded message -- From: Mary Gardiner m...@adainitiative.org Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] AdaCamp Melbourne (Jan 14): apply today! To: wikimediaa...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear Wikimedia Australia community, The Ada Initiative (http://adainitiative.org/) is a new non-profit supporting women in open technology and culture, including wiki culture, open knowledge and free culture. If you're interested in working to improve women's participation in these areas, you might be interested in coming along to our very first AdaCamp, a one day summit for people wanting to work actively on women's participation! Wikimedia Australia has come on board as one of our top tier sponsors, and we'd love to work more with your community. If you know of anyone else who you think would be interested in attending AdaCamp Melbourne, please share this email with them! == About AdaCamp == One of the major goals of the Ada Initiative is to organize a series of meetings of women in open technology and culture around the world, which we’re calling AdaCamp. ** Our very first AdaCamp will be held in Melbourne Australia on Saturday January 14 2012. ** == Apply now == AdaCamp attendance will be by invitation: if you would like us to consider you, please apply. Applications are now open: apply to attend AdaCamp. Applications are open at http://adainitiative.org/what-we-do/events/adacamp-mel-2012/ ** Applications will close Wednesday December 14 2011. ** Some travel grants of up to AUD 500 are available. == More information == AdaCamp will have an exciting, inspiring mix of people from various parts of the “open technology and culture” world, each of whom brings something special to the event. We’re looking for people who: - work in open technology and culture: any field involving open/grassroots/community participation and sharing the results of your work for free (see our list of open technology and culture fields for examples) - can share information about women’s experiences in that field, including talking about women’s achievements and the challenges they face - want to work together and share strategies to support and promote women in the field - share the Ada Initiative’s feminist approach to supporting and promoting women in open technology and culture - are young and old; students, professionals and hobbyists; from a diverse range of backgrounds; and reflect the breadth of the “open technology and culture” field. AdaCamp is open to people of all genders. However, since AdaCamp and the Ada Initiative exist to support and promote women in open technology and culture, prospective attendees who are not themselves women will need to demonstrate a very high level of prior engagement and experience with the issues faced by women in those fields in order to be invited. Find out more about AdaCamp at the event webpage. http://adainitiative.org/what-we-do/events/adacamp-mel-2012/ == About the Ada Initiative == The Ada Initiative is a non-profit organization dedicated to increasing participation of women in open technology and culture, which includes open source software, Wikipedia and other open data, and open social media. Co-founders Mary Gardiner and Valerie Aurora each have ten years of experience in open source software, open culture communities, and women in computing activism. For more on our mission and strategy, see what we do: http://adainitiative.org/what-we-do/ == Contact us == If you have further questions, please review the event webpage or email adac...@adainitiative.org. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list wikimediaa...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- mobile: 0412183663 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ cultural-partners mailing list cultural-partn...@wikimedia.ch http://lists.wikimedia.ch/listinfo/cultural-partners ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] A Women's Face for Fundraising
Susan is awesome, with an truly infectious enthusiasm; it's been great getting to know her from NYC meetups and events. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Since this recently came up.. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Susan_Appeal_November_30.2C_2011http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011 Gastropods FTW! -Sarah -- Sarah Stierch Consulting -- Historical, cultural, new media artistic research advising. http://www.sarahstierch.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case
danc...@frontiernet.net wrote:
I love the idea of having articles of gender concern in a one stop shopping
space. Going through the NPOV collection is long, painful and is filled with
lots of advertising articles for tech companies. Blarg
-Sarah
I agree with a gender-specific tag as well. NPOV is (by design) vague
and, to me, not quite the fit we need as it is best applied to allegedly
non-neutral use of language (in obvious cases of POV language, I just fix it
... there's no need to discuss). We ourselves already have {{globalize}}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Globalize
for the situation of articles reflecting only the experience of one
particular region of the world or country. I don't see why gender bias
couldn't be addressed the same way.
I was going suggest the Globalize template as well; it's a good model
of encouraging broader diversity (The examples and perspective in this
article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject) without the
boilerplate harsher tone of the stand NPOV template.
Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)
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Re: [Gendergap] New Dragon’s Guide 2: My New York City Wikipedia Social Meet up
Yes, I was fun to see Jillian at the NYC meetup, and also at two subsequent outreach classes :) Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: A fantastic and fascinating writeup. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: http://www.dragonsearchmarketing.com/blog/guide-2-new-york-city-wikipedia-meetup/ Fred ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Women's College Video Project on Commons Media of the Day
Hi Gendergap ameliorators, In rather more positive Commons Main Page news, I am happy to announce that today's selected Media of the Day is a student video produced as part of a course project at Alverno College, a liberal arts women's college located in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Media_of_the_day http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drumming_Basics.ogv Congratulations to Drummergirl3, and her whole class; rock on, girl! See here for background on Jennifer Geigel Mikulay's awesome Advanced Media Course at Alverno College: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SUP#Alverno_College_--_Advanced_Media_Studies_--_Spring_2011 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_by_Alverno_College_Advanced_Media_Studies And see some related wiki video resources here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lights_Camera_Wiki http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikipedia_Video_and_Education Thanks, Richard (User:Phraos) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] How to use Wiki videos
Hi Carissa et al, This is the pan-wiki meetup in Portland, you may well already be familiar with this one: http://pdx.wiki.org/Welcome_to_Portland_WikiWednesday! For Mexico City, I suggest you get in touch with the group working to form the Wikimedia Mexico chapter: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_México Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the ideas. About wikimeetups: everybody else is waiting for you to announce one. Once you do, they will come. About the culture: I think Steven Walling's presentation is one of the most succinct: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkF5o6KPNI Good luck with the editing. Best wishes, Lennart Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation / Wikimedia Foudation-stipendiat Chair of Wikimedia Sverige / ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se Tfn: 031 - 12 50 48 Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05 Epost: l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com Användarsida: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Hannibal Blogg: http://mrchapel.wordpress.com/ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:04:15 -0600 From: carissawodeho...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] How to use Wiki videos Hi, Yep I do find both of those videos too basic (http://www.howcast.com/videos/317521-How-To-Edit-a-Wikipedia-Article and http://www.commoncraft.com/wikipedia-video). I get the nuts and bolts of how to click around, I know basic html when I see it, and I remember neutral tone and proper citations from college and time in publishing (but gotta love a video on the internet that explains that you need an internet connection). The Howcast referenced the Wiki:Cite page, which I then find confusing because I don't get when to use each citation method. A Strunk White version of the rules is what I need! There's so many women in publishing, that could be a good group to target for women on Wiki involvement, as someone said before. I just need to know how wiki editing is similar and different from AP Style, for example. I would also be interested in a video that explains the community, which is both one of the primary barriers and primary motivations I have for participating. I didn't know about barnstars and awards, for example. Then I eventually found this Editor Assistance page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance) which looks like something handy-- I didn't know there was a place to ask for help. Then, what are user talk, user boxes, who gives awards, who are some key figures (Jimbo, etc), what is the user/editor/moderator relationship, and what are some things that can happen once I start editing and interacting. That's what a video would be handy for. It all feels like trying to get into Lost in the last season-- all these time tunnels and smoke monsters that I couldn't trace to their original form if I tried. Sadly, I see no meet ups in Portland or Mexico City, yet... Thanks, Carissa ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
