Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again
If anyone is interested, I wrote a blog post about the history of Sarkeesian's WP biography last week. http://wikipediocracy.com/2013/01/29/a-feminists-wikipedia-biography Andreas On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Christine Meyer christinewme...@gmail.comwrote: I remembered this thread as I began my most recent GAC-review, Mona Sax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Sax. Sure enough, the nominator and main editor of this article is the same guy who was topic-banned! I only chose it because I wanted to review an article and it's short. I know almost nothing about gaming, but not knowing about a topic has never stopped me from reviewing an article; I tend to choose ones that are at the top of the queue and to expand my knowledge about stuff I don't know much about. I was still tempted, though, to fail it on principle, but that would be the wrong principle. The guy doesn't come across as all that smart; plus, English isn't his native language and he's using that as an excuse for his weak prose. (As a second language-user myself, I tend to not accept that as a reason to be a weak writer, since just because you're a native speaker of English doesn't mean that you can write well in it, and plenty of non-native speakers are good writers.) Thus far, we're being polite with each other, although I must admit that part of me wonders how it'll turn out and if me being a girl will come into play. Will keep you informed! Christine User: Figureskatingfan On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia. If not, see http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/ http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-and-misogyny-via-wikipedia/ So now we have another ANI thread on her biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#BLP_issues_at_Anita_Sarkeesian The discussion is whether a chap who made the following comment (among many others) should be topic-banned from her biography: ---o0o--- Now she has over 4 million views, which is a huge leap (relatively), despite not publishing any new videos since then - these 3 million new views, and a big fame (especially among gamers), and the notability (also on Wikipedia), and the money (from donations), all of it was only due to the massive trolling response to her trailer video for a Kickstarter project, which she then *media-savy way used to start a huge moral panic (a smooth move, I'll admit) instead of just ignoring it, or do things like [ http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-06.phtmlcounter-attack literally using her vagina, * which is what Hepler did], and so this is what she is best known for (note: best). ---o0o--- That guy is the most frequent editor of her biography's talk page, having made over three times more edits to it than the next editor. http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=enwikifam=.wikipedia.orggrouped=onpage=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesian The ANI discussion has been running for a week. Andreas ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Christine -- Christine W. Meyer christinewme...@gmail.com 208/310-1549 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again
I remembered this thread as I began my most recent GAC-review, Mona Sax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Sax. Sure enough, the nominator and main editor of this article is the same guy who was topic-banned! I only chose it because I wanted to review an article and it's short. I know almost nothing about gaming, but not knowing about a topic has never stopped me from reviewing an article; I tend to choose ones that are at the top of the queue and to expand my knowledge about stuff I don't know much about. I was still tempted, though, to fail it on principle, but that would be the wrong principle. The guy doesn't come across as all that smart; plus, English isn't his native language and he's using that as an excuse for his weak prose. (As a second language-user myself, I tend to not accept that as a reason to be a weak writer, since just because you're a native speaker of English doesn't mean that you can write well in it, and plenty of non-native speakers are good writers.) Thus far, we're being polite with each other, although I must admit that part of me wonders how it'll turn out and if me being a girl will come into play. Will keep you informed! Christine User: Figureskatingfan On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia. If not, see http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/ http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-and-misogyny-via-wikipedia/ So now we have another ANI thread on her biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#BLP_issues_at_Anita_Sarkeesian The discussion is whether a chap who made the following comment (among many others) should be topic-banned from her biography: ---o0o--- Now she has over 4 million views, which is a huge leap (relatively), despite not publishing any new videos since then - these 3 million new views, and a big fame (especially among gamers), and the notability (also on Wikipedia), and the money (from donations), all of it was only due to the massive trolling response to her trailer video for a Kickstarter project, which she then *media-savy way used to start a huge moral panic (a smooth move, I'll admit) instead of just ignoring it, or do things like [ http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-06.phtmlcounter-attack literally using her vagina, * which is what Hepler did], and so this is what she is best known for (note: best). ---o0o--- That guy is the most frequent editor of her biography's talk page, having made over three times more edits to it than the next editor. http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=enwikifam=.wikipedia.orggrouped=onpage=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesian The ANI discussion has been running for a week. Andreas ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Christine -- Christine W. Meyer christinewme...@gmail.com 208/310-1549 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again
I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia. If not, see http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/ http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-and-misogyny-via-wikipedia/ So now we have another ANI thread on her biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#BLP_issues_at_Anita_Sarkeesian The discussion is whether a chap who made the following comment (among many others) should be topic-banned from her biography: ---o0o--- Now she has over 4 million views, which is a huge leap (relatively), despite not publishing any new videos since then - these 3 million new views, and a big fame (especially among gamers), and the notability (also on Wikipedia), and the money (from donations), all of it was only due to the massive trolling response to her trailer video for a Kickstarter project, which she then *media-savy way used to start a huge moral panic (a smooth move, I'll admit) instead of just ignoring it, or do things like [ http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-06.phtmlcounter-attack literally using her vagina, * which is what Hepler did], and so this is what she is best known for (note: best). ---o0o--- That guy is the most frequent editor of her biography's talk page, having made over three times more edits to it than the next editor. http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=enwikifam=.wikipedia.orggrouped=onpage=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesian The ANI discussion has been running for a week. Andreas ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again
Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia. If not, see http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/ http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-and-misogyny-via-wikipedia/ So now we have another ANI thread on her biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#BLP_issues_at_Anita_Sarkeesian The discussion is whether a chap who made the following comment (among many others) should be topic-banned from her biography: ---o0o--- Now she has over 4 million views, which is a huge leap (relatively), despite not publishing any new videos since then - these 3 million new views, and a big fame (especially among gamers), and the notability (also on Wikipedia), and the money (from donations), all of it was only due to the massive trolling response to her trailer video for a Kickstarter project, which she then *media-savy way used to start a huge moral panic (a smooth move, I'll admit) instead of just ignoring it, or do things like [ http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-writer-s-vagina-versus-the-internet-06.phtmlcounter-attack literally using her vagina, * which is what Hepler did], and so this is what she is best known for (note: best). ---o0o--- That guy is the most frequent editor of her biography's talk page, having made over three times more edits to it than the next editor. http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=enwikifam=.wikipedia.orggrouped=onpage=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesian The ANI discussion has been running for a week. Andreas ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
