Re: [Gendergap] Awesomeness: The amount of female volunteer leadership in the Wikimedia Movement
Laura Hale, 21/12/2011 21:55: At the moment, this is to both inform the community the state of female participation on a leadership level, the state of women's participation on WMF projects (the 9% number is meaningless unless properly contextualised) and the state of women's related content by region. [...] Beyond that, the purpose of the list is to create benchmarks for chapters and communities with in the movement to see how they can improve. If we get this information, six months, a year, two years down the line, we can say: Look! We've improved the participation levels of women at New Zealand based meet ups (and at the same time increased male participation levels!). We have more women involved in editing articles about popular Australian women's sports, about Australian literature and about female Australian politicians. In this country, there was not a single woman on the board but now they have one. In Bangladesh, they sent their first woman to attend an international conference and she came back and helped organise events in the country. [...] I don't know how to find or provide some information useful for benchmarking purposes: the only thing I'd consider important (and measurable) is the total number of female contributors and chapter members. Females are so important in Italian Wikimedia projects and chapter that their role can't be measured and I had never thought of measuring or increasing their /number/ in the board. Anyway, I've added some stats and trivia I like on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/FAQ/Perspectives/Italy , I hope they're somehow useful. Nemo ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Awesomeness: The amount of female volunteer leadership in the Wikimedia Movement
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know how to find or provide some information useful for benchmarking purposes: the only thing I'd consider important (and measurable) is the total number of female contributors and chapter members. Females are so important in Italian Wikimedia projects and chapter that their role can't be measured and I had never thought of measuring or increasing their /number/ in the board. Anyway, I've added some stats and trivia I like on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/FAQ/Perspectives/Italy , I hope they're somehow useful. Thank you. :) Anything that can be documented is appreciated. :) -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Awesomeness: The amount of female volunteer leadership in the Wikimedia Movement
Risker, 24/12/2011 17:44: I have to wonder why this metric isn't being reviewed from a project perspective rather than a nationalistic one. The fact I come from Canada is far less important than the fact that I am active on projects X, Y and Z - the vast majority of active Wiki?edians display their leadership online. I guess that it is because 1) chapters are one place where women can be involved, 2) chapters, countries and the physical world are where/how it's suggested to work to increase female participation. Nemo ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Awesomeness: The amount of female volunteer leadership in the Wikimedia Movement
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Laura Hale, 20/12/2011 23:55: We want everything related to women's involvement with Wikimedia projects in the region. :) This includes, but is not limited to: [...] Whoa, that's a lot. But, sorry for the silly question, what's exactly the purpose of collecting such info (so that I can prioritize, choose correctly and expose better): prove that Wikimedia is not for males only, show that initiatives to fill the gender gap are possible, just collect some statistics for further (internal) consideration, ...? At the moment, this is to both inform the community the state of female participation on a leadership level, the state of women's participation on WMF projects (the 9% number is meaningless unless properly contextualised) and the state of women's related content by region. Women are not a homogenous group and a solution that works for some women ( like http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Teahouse ) will not work for other women (like Australians, where the concept is alien). It is important to understand these sub populations, where they exist and what they are up to. Beyond that, the purpose of the list is to create benchmarks for chapters and communities with in the movement to see how they can improve. If we get this information, six months, a year, two years down the line, we can say: Look! We've improved the participation levels of women at New Zealand based meet ups (and at the same time increased male participation levels!). We have more women involved in editing articles about popular Australian women's sports, about Australian literature and about female Australian politicians. In this country, there was not a single woman on the board but now they have one. In Bangladesh, they sent their first woman to attend an international conference and she came back and helped organise events in the country. This information can also be used by participants to help justify external grants from outside WMF to help address these issues. There are many grants out there related to women, female leadership, etc. This can help that. (It was in fact one of the major reasons discussed on our planning list. We need these perspectives in order to help current and future female leaders, so they can apply for grants to do things. There are some women in some chapters who do a great job at grants, including in Hungary and South Africa.) I don't know how interesting this information is the WMF. We haven't had a sit down with the WMF about our conference. If they find this helpful for their own mission, fantastic. Awesome. It would be great to hear more about women in the Movement from an international perspective. :) We have some truly fantastic women and they don't always get the credit they deserve. -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Awesomeness: The amount of female volunteer leadership in the Wikimedia Movement
Laura Hale, 20/12/2011 22:02: If you have the time and knowledge, it would be fantastic if you could help fill in the details about your own county: What are historical membership totals in your home chapter? What has the historical female presence on your chapter's board been? What do you want to know, exactly? Average ratio of female founders, members and board members and female board members roles, across all years? Nemo ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Awesomeness: The amount of female volunteer leadership in the Wikimedia Movement
well, the more info the best. So put everything in Federico :) Info is never too much :) _ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 20 December 2011 21:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Laura Hale, 20/12/2011 22:02: If you have the time and knowledge, it would be fantastic if you could help fill in the details about your own county: What are historical membership totals in your home chapter? What has the historical female presence on your chapter's board been? What do you want to know, exactly? Average ratio of female founders, members and board members and female board members roles, across all years? Nemo ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
