Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Risker]

On 17 January 2013 22:33, Risker  wrote:

> There was actually a good suggestion for one on the TFA talk pagefor
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Cod_of_Massachusetts
>
> It's already at GA, needs significant polishing and filling in of gaps,
> but is easily do-able for April 1.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
Actually, it's currently at FAC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Sacred_Cod_of_Massachusetts/archive1&redirect=no

It needs help but with diligent work could easily pass.

Risker/Anne
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Risker]

There was actually a good suggestion for one on the TFA talk pagefor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Cod_of_Massachusetts

It's already at GA, needs significant polishing and filling in of gaps, but
is easily do-able for April 1.

Risker/Anne


On 17 January 2013 21:17, Carol Moore DC  wrote:

>  On 1/17/2013 1:24 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>  "It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into
>> Wikipedia - a female did it.
>>
>
>
>  Now, now, Carol. The record shows that *I* created the circle jerk
> article, and I am not a female.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Circle_jerk_(sexual_practice)&action=history
>
>  However, I will concede that I created the article entirely in response
> to your helpful suggestion. So in a way, the credit is indeed all yours. :)
>
>  Best,
> Andreas
>
>  Sorry, got the impression way back when that handle was a female user...
>
> Anyway, I've had my fun and now am seriously inquiring on where to drop a
> draft of an April Fools article.
>
> Let's have a bunch of us do it.  :-)
>
> CM
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Sarah Stierch]

On 1/17/13 6:17 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote:

On 1/17/2013 1:24 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC 
mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote:



"It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into
Wikipedia - a female did it.



Now, now, Carol. The record shows that /I/ created the circle jerk 
article, and I am not a female.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Circle_jerk_(sexual_practice)&action=history 



However, I will concede that I created the article entirely in 
response to your helpful suggestion. So in a way, the credit is 
indeed all yours. :)


Best,
Andreas


Sorry, got the impression way back when that handle was a female user...

Anyway, I've had my fun and now am seriously inquiring on where to 
drop a draft of an April Fools article.


Let's have a bunch of us do it.  :-)


TOTALLY. "WikiWomen fork to create friendly, user supporting, free 
knowledge resource." ;)



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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Carol Moore DC]

On 1/17/2013 1:24 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC 
mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote:



"It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into
Wikipedia - a female did it.



Now, now, Carol. The record shows that /I/ created the circle jerk 
article, and I am not a female.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Circle_jerk_(sexual_practice)&action=history 



However, I will concede that I created the article entirely in 
response to your helpful suggestion. So in a way, the credit is indeed 
all yours. :)


Best,
Andreas


Sorry, got the impression way back when that handle was a female user...

Anyway, I've had my fun and now am seriously inquiring on where to drop 
a draft of an April Fools article.


Let's have a bunch of us do it.  :-)

CM
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[ChaoticFluffy]

It's two very different issues to argue about a) whether "dirty word" DYKs
drive off women (I'm on record on Jimbo's talk as thinking that's silly),
and b) whether "dirty word" DYKs are puerile and not as good a type of joke
as we should be doing, if we want to do jokes (which appears to be
basically Jimbo's stance, and which I agree with). Yes, toilet and sex
humor is juvenile, but I don't think it's a female-repelling type of
juvenilia. And whether it is or not, we can probably do better when it
comes to April Fool's, anyway.

-Fluff


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> "It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into
>> Wikipedia - a female did it.
>>
>
>
> Now, now, Carol. The record shows that *I* created the circle jerk
> article, and I am not a female.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Circle_jerk_(sexual_practice)&action=history
>
> However, I will concede that I created the article entirely in response to
> your helpful suggestion. So in a way, the credit is indeed all yours. :)
>
> Best,
> Andreas
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Andreas Kolbe]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC wrote:

>
>> "It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into Wikipedia
> - a female did it.
>


Now, now, Carol. The record shows that *I* created the circle jerk article,
and I am not a female.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Circle_jerk_(sexual_practice)&action=history

However, I will concede that I created the article entirely in response to
your helpful suggestion. So in a way, the credit is indeed all yours. :)

Best,
Andreas
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Carol Moore DC]

On 1/16/2013 2:23 AM, Risker wrote:



Although I think it probably says something about the general 
mentality of a significant portion of our editorship what was being 
proposed for April Fool's day - sex, body parts, and swearing.  Hmmm.



Risker/Anne
I stooped to that level and added the one I think is funniest to Jimbo's 
talk page and to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today's_featured_article 
April Fools discussion, writing at the latter:


"It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into 
Wikipedia - a female did it. So come on, it IS the funniest thing in all 
patriarchy, so you gotta do SOMETHING with it! (Assuming it hasn't been 
done multiple times already. "


I didn't mean to do a pun or whatever there at the end, by the way. But 
definitely setting the tone...


Women CAN be bawdy, so let us at least have our fun too...

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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Andreas Kolbe]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Risker  wrote:

> I don't know that they contribute to the gender imbalance - although in
> fairness the women who make it as far as adminship and discussions on
> Jimbo's page tend to be unusually thick-skinned (I mean it as a
> compliment!).  I think that the puerile proposals being bandied about are
> likely to make Wikipedia look like it's run by, well...juvenile geeks who
> haven't got past giggling every time they hear someone say a "bad word".
> It would be different if these things were actually funny, but they aren't.
>
>
> Although I think it probably says something about the general mentality of
> a significant portion of our editorship what was being proposed for April
> Fool's day - sex, body parts, and swearing.  Hmmm.
>


+1.
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[George Herbert]

Someone will find anything done "not funny".

That said, body parts humor is rarely a soaring example of high humor.
 If I didn't think it would go over so badly I'd do the sort of
efforts I used to do on Usenet here, but it seems to be taken badly no
matter what.


-george

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Ryan Kaldari  wrote:
> The April Fools DYKs are pretty tame compared to the ones we used to get
> from Bedford (which eventually led to a wheel war). I just wish the April
> Fools ones were actually funny.
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>
>
> On 1/15/13 11:23 PM, Risker wrote:
>
> On 15 January 2013 21:09, Sarah Stierch  wrote:
>>
>> http://thewikipedian.net/2013/01/15/wikifoolery/
>>
>> " April Fools’ Day is still about 2 1/2 months off, but Wikipedians are
>> already planning for the big day. Every year, editors who maintain the front
>> page arrange for silly, sometimes misleading, and even mildly offensive
>> articles to run during the 24-hour period covering April 1st. But as we
>> noted in April 2011, not everyone is happy that such a serious project as
>> Wikipedia, one focused on curating the world’s knowledge, spends one day per
>> year kind of, sort of, doing the opposite. And as of today, there’s a thread
>> on Jimbo Wales’ Talk pagehosting a debate on the practice. This time in the
>> mix: whether the juvenile pranks contribute to Wikipedia’s noted gender
>> imbalance. Best comments so far: from female editors defending standing up
>> for “women’s ability to both use and appreciate dirty or giggle-inducing
>> language”."
>>
>
> I don't know that they contribute to the gender imbalance - although in
> fairness the women who make it as far as adminship and discussions on
> Jimbo's page tend to be unusually thick-skinned (I mean it as a
> compliment!).  I think that the puerile proposals being bandied about are
> likely to make Wikipedia look like it's run by, well...juvenile geeks who
> haven't got past giggling every time they hear someone say a "bad word".  It
> would be different if these things were actually funny, but they aren't.
>
> Although I think it probably says something about the general mentality of a
> significant portion of our editorship what was being proposed for April
> Fool's day - sex, body parts, and swearing.  Hmmm.
>
>
> Risker/Anne
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Ryan Kaldari]

The April Fools DYKs are pretty tame compared to the ones we used to get 
from Bedford (which eventually led to a wheel war). I just wish the 
April Fools ones were actually funny.


Ryan Kaldari

On 1/15/13 11:23 PM, Risker wrote:
On 15 January 2013 21:09, Sarah Stierch > wrote:


http://thewikipedian.net/2013/01/15/wikifoolery/

" April Fools' Day
is still about 2
1/2 months off, butWikipedians are already planning

for
the big day. Every year, editors who maintain the front page
arrange for silly, sometimes misleading, and even mildly offensive
articles to run during the 24-hour period covering April 1st. But
aswe noted in April 2011
, not everyone is
happy that such a serious project as Wikipedia, one focused on
curating the world's knowledge, spends one day per year kind of,
sort of, doing the opposite. And as of today, there's athread on
Jimbo Wales' Talk page

hosting
a debate on the practice. This time in the mix: whether the
juvenile pranks contribute to Wikipedia'snoted gender imbalance

.
Best comments so far: from female editors defending standing up
for "women's ability to both use and appreciate dirty or
giggle-inducing language"."


I don't know that they contribute to the gender imbalance - although 
in fairness the women who make it as far as adminship and discussions 
on Jimbo's page tend to be unusually thick-skinned (I mean it as a 
compliment!).  I think that the puerile proposals being bandied about 
are likely to make Wikipedia look like it's run by, well...juvenile 
geeks who haven't got past giggling every time they hear someone say a 
"bad word".  It would be different if these things were actually 
funny, but they aren't.


Although I think it probably says something about the general 
mentality of a significant portion of our editorship what was being 
proposed for April Fool's day - sex, body parts, and swearing.  Hmmm.



Risker/Anne


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Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Risker]

On 15 January 2013 21:09, Sarah Stierch  wrote:

>  http://thewikipedian.net/2013/01/15/wikifoolery/
>
> " April Fools’ Day  is
> still about 2 1/2 months off, but Wikipedians are already 
> planning
>  for the big day. Every year, editors who maintain the front page arrange
> for silly, sometimes misleading, and even mildly offensive articles to run
> during the 24-hour period covering April 1st. But as we noted in April
> 2011 , not everyone is
> happy that such a serious project as Wikipedia, one focused on curating the
> world’s knowledge, spends one day per year kind of, sort of, doing the
> opposite. And as of today, there’s a thread on Jimbo Wales’ Talk 
> pagehosting
> a debate on the practice. This time in the mix: whether the juvenile pranks
> contribute to Wikipedia’s noted gender 
> imbalance.
> Best comments so far: from female editors defending standing up for
> “women’s ability to both use and appreciate dirty or giggle-inducing
> language”."
>
>
I don't know that they contribute to the gender imbalance - although in
fairness the women who make it as far as adminship and discussions on
Jimbo's page tend to be unusually thick-skinned (I mean it as a
compliment!).  I think that the puerile proposals being bandied about are
likely to make Wikipedia look like it's run by, well...juvenile geeks who
haven't got past giggling every time they hear someone say a "bad word".
It would be different if these things were actually funny, but they
aren't.

Although I think it probably says something about the general mentality of
a significant portion of our editorship what was being proposed for April
Fool's day - sex, body parts, and swearing.  Hmmm.


Risker/Anne
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[Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

[Sarah Stierch]

http://thewikipedian.net/2013/01/15/wikifoolery/

" April Fools' Day is 
still about 2 1/2 months off, butWikipedians are already planning 
for 
the big day. Every year, editors who maintain the front page arrange for 
silly, sometimes misleading, and even mildly offensive articles to run 
during the 24-hour period covering April 1st. But aswe noted in April 
2011 , not everyone is 
happy that such a serious project as Wikipedia, one focused on curating 
the world's knowledge, spends one day per year kind of, sort of, doing 
the opposite. And as of today, there's athread on Jimbo Wales' Talk page 
hosting 
a debate on the practice. This time in the mix: whether the juvenile 
pranks contribute to Wikipedia'snoted gender imbalance 
. 
Best comments so far: from female editors defending standing up for 
"women's ability to both use and appreciate dirty or giggle-inducing 
language"."





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