Re: [Gendergap] Please , a question on deleted article SP "Migrantas" on women´s empowermente
Just for reference, the relevant guidelines are:
Unambiguous use of a name or URL of a company, group or product as a
username is generally not permitted, and users who adopt such a username may
be blocked if their editing behavior appears to be promotional. However,
users who adopt such usernames but who are not editing problematically
should not be summarily blocked if their edits are otherwise constructive;
instead, they should be gently but firmly encouraged to change their
username.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention/Instructions
Unambiguous use of a name or URL of a company, group or product as a
username is generally not permitted.
Users who adopt such a username and engage in inappropriately promotional
behaviors in articles about the company, group, or product, are usually
blocked.
Users who adopt such usernames, but who are not editing problematically in
related articles, should not be blocked. Instead, they should be gently
encouraged to change their username.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username#Company.2Fgroup_names
That blocking policy sometimes comes across as a bit harsh. It is always
better to have a word with the editor first, rather than block them
outright.
Andreas
--- On Fri, 20/5/11, Fred Bauder wrote:
> From: Fred Bauder
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Please , a question on deleted article SP
> "Migrantas" on women´s empowermente
> To: fredb...@fairpoint.net, "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia
> projects"
> Date: Friday, 20 May, 2011, 15:13
> >> Dear,
> >> I would like to draw your attention to the history
> of article
> >> "migrantas"
> >> an initiative in Berlin on the empowerment of
> migrant women, that was
> >> deleted by the concept autopromotion and later by
> the attribution of
> >> irrelevance.Men and women worked for improving it
> but it seems without
> >> results.It would be good to have some suggestions
> on that.best regards,
> >> Patricia
> >
> > (del/undel) 15:12, April 7,
> 2011 JamesBWatson (talk | contribs |
> > block) deleted "Migrantas" (G11: Unambiguous
> advertising or
> > promotion: and WP:CSD#G12: copyright infringement of
> > http://www.balsas.cc/project-migrantasorg-looking-dialogue-pictograms/)
> > (view/restore)
>
> There was only one edit, the edit by Migrantas-Berlin
> creating it.
> >
> > That's the English Wikipedia.
> >
> > Fred
>
> For example do a google search for "Each drawing is shown
> and commented
> upon within the group" which is a sentence in the deleted
> article. It
> gets three hits, for example:
>
> http://www.grassrootsfeminism.net/cms/node/310
>
> I think what needs to be done is to do the article over
> again without
> doing the extensive word for word copying. It seems
> notable. As to
> "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" there was only one
> editor, who
> also was blocked. creation of that article seems to be
> their only edit:
>
> (del/undel) 15:22, April 7, 2011 JamesBWatson
> (talk | contribs |
> block) blocked Migrantas-Berlin (talk | contribs) (account
> creation
> blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite
> ({{spamusernameblock}}) (unblock | change block)
>
> This block is within the rules as the user name is the name
> of the
> project they were promoting in their only edit. They can
> create an
> account with a different name.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Please, a question on deleted article SP "Migrantas" on women´s empowermente
--- On Fri, 20/5/11, patricia morales wrote: From: patricia morales Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Please, a question on deleted article SP "Migrantas" on women´s empowermente To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" Cc: "Roberto Fiadone" Date: Friday, 20 May, 2011, 13:19 Dear, I would like to draw your attention to the history of article "migrantas" an initiative in Berlin on the empowerment of migrant women, that was deleted by the concept autopromotion and later by the attribution of irrelevance.Men and women worked for improving it but it seems without results.It would be good to have some suggestions on that.best regards, Patricia Hi Patricia, It looks like the article was deleted because it directly copied text from anexisting website, and because it appeared promotional. You could try to recreate the article, but would have to write it from the pointof view of third-party sources writing about Migrantas. The best sources I can find are: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/style/28iht-agerm.html http://www.morgenpost.de/printarchiv/berlin/article1608757/Kanzlerin-ueberprueft-Integrationsarbeit-der-Senatoren.html I can't see all of that article, but it appears to mention that a "Kollektiv migrantas" won a prize: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=migrantas+berlin#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&biw=931&bih=670&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=%22Der+zweite+Platz+ging+an+das+Workshop-Projekt+%22Kollektiv+migrantas%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=27f474a4db1a0c60 The German chancellor seems to have been involved. Winning a prominentaward usually helps to establish notability, justifying an article in Wikipedia. There is also a reference here:http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZyXnMAAJ&q=%22migrantas%22+berlin&dq=%22migrantas%22+berlin&hl=en&ei=0HPWTdekEsuo8AOu4IyFCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA However, this is not a third-party reference. It would help to have more sources. Two good third-party sources may notbe enough to pass notability. Perhaps others here can help research theorganisation; Spanish sources would be fine too. At any rate, if you do want to recreate the article, it would be best to create adraft in your user space first and then let some editors look at it to advise you as to whether it would survive a deletion request, before putting it inarticle space. Best,Andreas___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Please, a question on deleted article SP "Migrantas" on women´s empowermente
Dear, I would like to draw your attention to the history of article "migrantas" an initiative in Berlin on the empowerment of migrant women, that was deleted by the concept autopromotion and later by the attribution of irrelevance.Men and women worked for improving it but it seems without results.It would be good to have some suggestions on that.best regards, Patricia --- On Tue, 5/17/11, Sarah Stierch wrote: From: Sarah Stierch Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:19 AM Hi dz, Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been really busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California, and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like. =) Sarah On 5/17/2011 8:17 AM, Deanna Zandt wrote: I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general from that noob perspective. cheers dz On May 16, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: On 5/16/2011 11:49 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote: Anybody interested in tackling this issue? -Pete I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered - and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we start? ;-) Hi Sarah, I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And anyone else). My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the collection of interrelated issues, and determining where it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to me are: (1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD on English Wikipedia); (2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a worthwhile PotD on Commons; (3) The technical and social processes for setting a PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented. How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how things currently work? I think that process will point the way toward recommending a solution. I've set up a page for this project, if you're game! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD -Pete ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/li
