Re: [Gendergap] Pregnancy article lead-image RFC and the lack of junk in articles

2011-09-06 Thread Sarah Stierch
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Arnaud HERVE arnaudhe...@x-mail.net wrote:


 very casual instead. Might be my European education, I don't know.


Possibly :) I consider myself a very sex-positive person, but, I also know
when political correctness and forcing people to view nudity is
inappropriate. In this matter, to me, it's forcing people to view a really
medicore photo of a woman nude and pregnant and making the article something
people can't view at work. Also, at least in the US Google search, you have
to go sometime before you find any images of naked women who are pregnant.
There are plenty of tasteful photos of women clothed, or women clothed with
their belly showing. I never even looked at the pregnancy article until it
was brought to my attention and i was like Whoa, okay...whoa. But, I'm a
[[childless]] person by choice, and the whole concept of pregnancy makes me
anxious ;-)


I was trying to think of an example of something that might be relevant to
men. I looked at the [[vasectomy]] article and was happy to see that there
was a medical drawing of a groin, and not someone's privates at the first
image (aguug), but, you scroll down a bit and there it is, but, I
expected it.

[[Castration]] is the same, actually, I'm more shocked by this one because
there IS NOT a photo of a castrated man. What the hell is that about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration   We also have a ton of photos
(gahhh!!!) of castrated guys. Who wants to spend time adding a photo to the
castration article? Anyone? ;)  We have artwork, but not junk. The last
conversation that took place about this was in 2006, where a user cried 
goat.se: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Castration#pictures.3F And
people getting grossed out by a horse castration (ughh).



 I think that for medical articles, all the relevant body parts must be
 fully exposed. And believe me I have seen much worse than a healthy
 pregnant woman, because i do website editing for a faculty of medicine.


Well we need a photo on the castration page.  But, you also work in an
environment where nude medical images are acceptable. Many of us aren't in
that environment :) Many of us also like surprises, but not naked surprises
(outside of perhaps your love life).

Sarah


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Re: [Gendergap] Pregnancy article lead-image RFC and the lack of junk in articles

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Sarah:
I was trying to think of an example of something that might be relevant to men. 
I looked at the [[vasectomy]] article and was happy to see that there was a 
medical drawing of a groin, and not someone's privates at the first image 
(aguug), but, you scroll down a bit and there it is, but, I expected it. 

Myself:
There actually has been sort of a precedent with a male-relevant article. I'm 
sure others with long wiki teeth will remember it once they see the link, but 
for those who don't, it's at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Semen/Archive_3#Survey_to_gain_consensus_to_remove_an_image
and you can scroll up and down at your leisure, and follow the links to the 
controversial image.

Daniel Case

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