Re: [Gendergap] Rebirthing PAIN or something like it - and c*nt talk

2014-07-27 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
My British contacts insist that the term "cunt" as an insult is not
sexist in usage or intent. Vulgar, but not sexist.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 4:02 PM, LB  wrote:
> One of my hurdles as an editor is incivility: a deficiency of it in others
> and, according to some of them, too much of it in me - or too much
> sensitivity. I started a discussion "Where and how to request a Civility
> board"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board
> and there seems to be some strong resistance to the idea.
>
> Disappointingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, the third person to reply
> dragged gender into it, with this comment:
>
> "Besides, the easiest way to avoid being called a cunt is not to act
> like one."
>
> I would surely like some feedback - here and there - about this.
>
> Lightbreather
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Rebirthing PAIN or something like it - and c*nt talk

2014-07-26 Thread Julie Workman
Many things are made to be about gender when they are genuinely not.

This is one of those things.  The essay on meta titled "Don't be a dick" is
very popular, widely quoted, and nobody has an issue with the fact that
slang for male genitalia is being used pejoratively in reference to
behaviour.

Eric has a filthy mouth and likes to use it to get a reaction from people.
 But it really isn't about gender.  It's just an expletive.  A civility
issue, yes, a gender one, not at all.

Julie


On 26 July 2014 14:02, LB  wrote:

> One of my hurdles as an editor is incivility: a deficiency of it in others
> and, according to some of them, too much of it in me - or too much
> sensitivity. I started a discussion "Where and how to request a Civility
> board"
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board
> and there seems to be some strong resistance to the idea.
>
> Disappointingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, the third person to reply
> dragged gender into it, with this comment:
>
> "Besides, the easiest way to avoid being called a cunt is not to act
> like one."
>
> I would surely like some feedback - here and there - about this.
>
> Lightbreather
>
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[Gendergap] Rebirthing PAIN or something like it - and c*nt talk

2014-07-26 Thread LB
One of my hurdles as an editor is incivility: a deficiency of it in others
and, according to some of them, too much of it in me - or too much
sensitivity. I started a discussion "Where and how to request a Civility
board"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board
and there seems to be some strong resistance to the idea.

Disappointingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, the third person to reply
dragged gender into it, with this comment:

"Besides, the easiest way to avoid being called a cunt is not to act
like one."

I would surely like some feedback - here and there - about this.

Lightbreather
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