Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
I would also advise as a good strategy partnering with an outside group, whether an academic or nonprofit organization, or just an interested academic or activist and their circle of colleagues/students. And make sure they feel this is their event, and give them top billing, It doesn't have to specifically be women's groups - almost any academic or nonprofit grouping is going to have more gender diversity (and more experience in a lot of needed areas) than what you would catch with just on-wiki outreach. I would say a measure of success is when you find "new" people are able to "own" this activity in events with different themes, and spreading this type of outreach to more circles and areas of interest, and I think we've seen a fair amount of this in NYC in the past year or so. Thanks, Pharos On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Pine W wrote: > Hi Keilana, Lennart and J, > > Thanks for the feedback. Based on your suggestions, if we try this again, > we might try moving to weekend dates and slowing our cadence to alternate > weeks. > > We're hoping that the University of Washington Libraries will identify > someone on their staff who they're already funding and would be interested > in accepting a Wikimedian-in-Residence role. If this happens then perhaps > one of the WiR's roles can be to lead these events. Alternatively, with > Cascadia Wikimeidans slowly but surely growing our number of regular > Wikimedians, perhaps one of our members will want to take on UW editathons > as his or her main project. > > Another question that I have is about scaling. We're scaling quite slowly > and incrementally overall, but have had zero growth in the past 12 months > with our number of regular female attendees. I'm told that very slow growth > is normal for affiliates. I'd like to see us grow our numbers, which in > turn would enable us to do more outreach events and generate a positive > feedback loop. Any suggestions about how to make that happen, particularly > with potential female contributors who are very underrepresented among our > population of regular attendees? > > Thanks, > Pine > > ___ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
Hi Keilana, Lennart and J, Thanks for the feedback. Based on your suggestions, if we try this again, we might try moving to weekend dates and slowing our cadence to alternate weeks. We're hoping that the University of Washington Libraries will identify someone on their staff who they're already funding and would be interested in accepting a Wikimedian-in-Residence role. If this happens then perhaps one of the WiR's roles can be to lead these events. Alternatively, with Cascadia Wikimeidans slowly but surely growing our number of regular Wikimedians, perhaps one of our members will want to take on UW editathons as his or her main project. Another question that I have is about scaling. We're scaling quite slowly and incrementally overall, but have had zero growth in the past 12 months with our number of regular female attendees. I'm told that very slow growth is normal for affiliates. I'd like to see us grow our numbers, which in turn would enable us to do more outreach events and generate a positive feedback loop. Any suggestions about how to make that happen, particularly with potential female contributors who are very underrepresented among our population of regular attendees? Thanks, Pine ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
My experiences are similar - check out the systemic bias kit I produced for
more details:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Systemic_bias_workshop_kit.pdf
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <
l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Good question. In our experience from the weekly editathons in Gothenburg (
> https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_kvinnor/Kvinnliga_huvudpersoner_p%C3%A5_Wikipedia)
> there are a few things we've learned:
>
> * even though people are interested, it may take a while before they
> actually come. In a few cases, people thought about it for several months
> before showing up.
> * media reports are key to reaching newcomers and the reports need to be
> positive, including reporting on results ("we've created this many
> articles", etc)
> * recruiting people with a large network is also a big plus. If you can
> get that person enthusiastic about the editathons, he or she can be better
> than any poster or article in the newspaper.
> * the place needs to be easy to find, centrally located and feel
> homey/welcoming. Signs pointing towards the editathon is a good idea
> * make a welcoming project page (ours is a work in progress)
>
> But realistically, the bulk of the work is going to be done by the core
> team, so make sure you have fun even if noone shows up.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart Guldbrandsson
>
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> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:12:40 -0500
> From: slowki...@gmail.com
> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
>
>
> i agree the trend is low undergraduate attendance if not part of grade
>
> some campus marketing (fliers, partnership with groups seems in order)
> but we don't have a handle on it.
> major divide between readers and editors seems hard to close.
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pine W wrote:
>
> Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval,
>
> Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of
> Washington with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health
> Sciences". We did some communications through the University's Facebook
> pages and mailing lists. While we had regular attendance from veteran
> Wikipedians and from university librarians, we had very little attendance
> from current students on campus who we had hoped would attend.
>
> I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on
> campus in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming
> to one of our events.
>
> Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university
> editathons are most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus
> who is interested and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the
> university editathon model tends to have mediocre outcomes.
>
> Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this
> again in the future?
>
> Thanks,
> Pine
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
Good question. In our experience from the weekly editathons in Gothenburg
(https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_kvinnor/Kvinnliga_huvudpersoner_p%C3%A5_Wikipedia)
there are a few things we've learned:
* even though people are interested, it may take a while before they actually
come. In a few cases, people thought about it for several months before showing
up.
* media reports are key to reaching newcomers and the reports need to be
positive, including reporting on results ("we've created this many articles",
etc)
* recruiting people with a large network is also a big plus. If you can get
that person enthusiastic about the editathons, he or she can be better than any
poster or article in the newspaper.
* the place needs to be easy to find, centrally located and feel
homey/welcoming. Signs pointing towards the editathon is a good idea
* make a welcoming project page (ours is a work in progress)
But realistically, the bulk of the work is going to be done by the core team,
so make sure you have fun even if noone shows up.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05
http://www.elementx.se
Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok
Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg
@aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till
världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:12:40 -0500
From: slowki...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
i agree the trend is low undergraduate attendance if not part of grade
some campus marketing (fliers, partnership with groups seems in order) but we
don't have a handle on it.major divide between readers and editors seems hard
to close.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pine W wrote:
Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval,
Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of Washington
with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health Sciences". We did
some communications through the University's Facebook pages and mailing lists.
While we had regular attendance from veteran Wikipedians and from university
librarians, we had very little attendance from current students on campus who
we had hoped would attend.
I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on campus
in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming to one of
our events.
Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university editathons are
most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus who is interested
and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the university editathon
model tends to have mediocre outcomes.
Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this again
in the future?
Thanks,
Pine
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Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
i agree the trend is low undergraduate attendance if not part of grade some campus marketing (fliers, partnership with groups seems in order) but we don't have a handle on it. major divide between readers and editors seems hard to close. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pine W wrote: > Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval, > > Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of > Washington with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health > Sciences". We did some communications through the University's Facebook > pages and mailing lists. While we had regular attendance from veteran > Wikipedians and from university librarians, we had very little attendance > from current students on campus who we had hoped would attend. > > I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on > campus in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming > to one of our events. > > Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university > editathons are most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus > who is interested and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the > university editathon model tends to have mediocre outcomes. > > Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this > again in the future? > > Thanks, > Pine > > ___ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval, Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of Washington with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health Sciences". We did some communications through the University's Facebook pages and mailing lists. While we had regular attendance from veteran Wikipedians and from university librarians, we had very little attendance from current students on campus who we had hoped would attend. I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on campus in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming to one of our events. Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university editathons are most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus who is interested and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the university editathon model tends to have mediocre outcomes. Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this again in the future? Thanks, Pine ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
