Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Ole Palnatoke Andersen]

Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only
preview), and *one* link turned blue there:
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer

Feel free to translate it. :)

Ole


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Redlinks/Women
>
> Not sure if anyone's seen that...but O_o
>
> Get to work! ;)
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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Sarah Stierch]

Yeah let's get a translating/writing party going.

Great excuse for small wiki parties at home, too!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 28, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen  wrote:

> Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only preview), 
> and *one* link turned blue there: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer
> 
> Feel free to translate it. :)
> 
> Ole
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Sarah Stierch  
> wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Redlinks/Women
>> 
>> Not sure if anyone's seen that...but O_o
>> 
>> Get to work! ;) 
>> 
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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:

Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only
preview), and *one* link turned blue there:
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer


it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except 
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera
But luckily also not models: 
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian 
publisher's merit).


Nemo

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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[keilanaw...@gmail.com]

There's a list of missing women scientists over at WikiProject Women Scientists 
and another at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_Science.
 We are still missing a ton of women scientists, and they are usually perfect 
candidates for DYK! (unsubtle plug was unsubtle...)

But seriously, that's another good resource for missing articles on notable 
women. 

Kei

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Cc: "Ole Palnatoke Andersen" 
Subject: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects
Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 3:33 AM


Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:
> Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only
> preview), and *one* link turned blue there:
> http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer

it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except 
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera
But luckily also not models: 
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian 
publisher's merit).

Nemo

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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Katie Chan]

Some of the recent fellows and foreign members of the Royal
Society can do with articles too -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Fellows_of_the_Royal_Society ,
with others expanded

KTC


On 29 May 2013 13:53, keilanaw...@gmail.com  wrote:

> There's a list of missing women scientists over at WikiProject Women
> Scientists and another at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_Science.We
>  are still missing a ton of women scientists, and they are usually
> perfect candidates for DYK! (unsubtle plug was unsubtle...)
>
> But seriously, that's another good resource for missing articles on
> notable women.
>
> Kei
>
> Sent from my HTC One™ S on T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network.
>
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> - Reply message -
> From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" 
> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <
> gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc: "Ole Palnatoke Andersen" 
> Subject: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects
> Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 3:33 AM
>
>
> Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:
> > Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only
> > preview), and *one* link turned blue there:
> > http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer
>
> it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except
> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera
> But luckily also not models:
> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian
> publisher's merit).
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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Sarah Stierch]

Perhaps we can have these lists combined.

I don't have time to do it right now. It'd maybe be good to have the large
list made more public someplace.


WP Women's History or something, and I advise the same for other languages.

If people knew this list existed, we could get some progress made on it.
And having it on user spaces and scattered in various places doesn't help
much.

Just a suggestion. Perhaps someone can be be bold and do it (since I
can't!)

Sarah


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Katie Chan wrote:

> Some of the recent fellows and foreign members of the
> Royal Society can do with articles too -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Fellows_of_the_Royal_Society ,
> with others expanded
>
> KTC
>
>
> On 29 May 2013 13:53, keilanaw...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
>> There's a list of missing women scientists over at WikiProject Women
>> Scientists and another at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_Science.We
>>  are still missing a ton of women scientists, and they are usually
>> perfect candidates for DYK! (unsubtle plug was unsubtle...)
>>
>> But seriously, that's another good resource for missing articles on
>> notable women.
>>
>> Kei
>>
>> Sent from my HTC One™ S on T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G
>> Network.
>>
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" 
>> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <
>> gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Cc: "Ole Palnatoke Andersen" 
>> Subject: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects
>> Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 3:33 AM
>>
>>
>> Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:
>> > Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only
>> > preview), and *one* link turned blue there:
>> > http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer
>>
>> it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except
>> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera
>> But luckily also not models:
>> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian
>> publisher's merit).
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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Risker]

On 29 May 2013 10:58, Sarah Stierch  wrote:

> Perhaps we can have these lists combined.
>
> Actually, I'd really suggest not doing that, or only having links to
smaller lists in a central location.  With the exception of DSP's list,
each of these lists is small enough to feel "achievable", but putting them
into one really big list makes the task look and feel overwhelming.
Creating 10 articles in a smaller grouping makes a significant dent.
Creating 10 articles on DSP's list barely scratches the surface, and I'd
question whether such a redlist actually constitutes a reasonable working
list even just considering its smaller chunks.  A passing mention in a
single book, or membership in a professional association, does not make for
notability, but that does seem to be where several of DSP's sublists are
coming from.   (A random sampling of the "women psychoanalysts" shows that
many would not to pass even our ridiculously low notability standards.)

In other words, smaller lists are more likely to be done than long lists,
and are also much more likely to be "adopted" by one or a small group of
editors.  It's how *successful* wikiprojects have operated for years. They
have clear focus, they have specific objectives, and they support systems
that give their members a sense of accomplishment rather than leaving them
feeling as though they could slave away for months on end without having an
effect.


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Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects

[Sarah Stierch]

Well whatever works.

A "list of lists" is fine with me. Meaning page that points to 
collections about women related subjects needing improvement.


There are just tons of lists (I have a few on my own user space) that 
are spread out. It'd be ideal to have one repository space for people to 
browse.


Alas, I don't have time to create the list, so...whoever decides to do 
it...I trust them to make the best decision.


-Sarah

On 5/29/13 9:35 PM, Risker wrote:




On 29 May 2013 10:58, Sarah Stierch > wrote:


Perhaps we can have these lists combined.

Actually, I'd really suggest not doing that, or only having links to 
smaller lists in a central location.  With the exception of DSP's 
list, each of these lists is small enough to feel "achievable", but 
putting them into one really big list makes the task look and feel 
overwhelming.  Creating 10 articles in a smaller grouping makes a 
significant dent. Creating 10 articles on DSP's list barely scratches 
the surface, and I'd question whether such a redlist actually 
constitutes a reasonable working list even just considering its 
smaller chunks.  A passing mention in a single book, or membership in 
a professional association, does not make for notability, but that 
does seem to be where several of DSP's sublists are coming from.   (A 
random sampling of the "women psychoanalysts" shows that many would 
not to pass even our ridiculously low notability standards.)


In other words, smaller lists are more likely to be done than long 
lists, and are also much more likely to be "adopted" by one or a small 
group of editors. It's how *successful* wikiprojects have operated for 
years. They have clear focus, they have specific objectives, and they 
support systems that give their members a sense of accomplishment 
rather than leaving them feeling as though they could slave away for 
months on end without having an effect.



Risker/Anne


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