Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
...I went throughin what took weeks, and Wikidata'd the heck out of everyone on this list. The worst articles, the one's that need a lot of work, are the bottom half, for sure. The funniest to read is the Gisele Bundchen article. It needs a lot of work...to say the least and doesn't seem to be written by someone with a fashion background, to say the least. The last half have articles that just seem like they were written by PR firms at times. My favorite take from the Bundchen article is: In 2008 Bündchen and Brady dished out turkey and all the trimmings unannounced to over 400 job trainees in Roxbury Massachusetts for Goodwill Industries International HA HA! Dishing it out.. I have now read all 100 articles. Shakira is my new favorite celebrity and Adriana Huffington is good at plagiarizing. And there are some REALLY rich women in China. -Sarah On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Done! All the stubs, at least. A couple of thoughts: a) As expected, most of the stubs weren't :-). BLPs are not my forte, but I'd say there's nine at most, and two or three of those are marginal to be uprated. [This is a pretty systemic problem with our talkpage ratings and stub tags: as Risker says, they get very stale. The sheer labour that would be required to keep them up-to-date on a systematic basis is daunting...] b) Lots of mid-range start/C mediocrity as is so often the case with Wikipedia, lots of it with a reasonable amount of content but needing some hacking around to get into shape c) If anyone is looking for a weekend project and is comfortable with political BLPs, I'd say Helen Clark is able to be pushed to GA with a bit of polishing and tidying, and Michelle Bachelet likewise. 10% of the list properly-reviewed would be nothing to sniff at. (Bachelet has an odd gap in that the article doesn't seem to have anything from her current presidency, but otherwise it's quite well-structured and not overly recentist, which is unusual for a politician's biography!). Andrew. On 17 June 2014 02:01, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should compare a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from this as well: Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... Andrew. On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot of those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___
Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
Sarah you are such a champ! Thank you for slogging through all this! On Jun 28, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed I wrote to say the least and needs a lot of work multiple times. My brain is melting :) -Sarah On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: ...I went throughin what took weeks, and Wikidata'd the heck out of everyone on this list. The worst articles, the one's that need a lot of work, are the bottom half, for sure. The funniest to read is the Gisele Bundchen article. It needs a lot of work...to say the least and doesn't seem to be written by someone with a fashion background, to say the least. The last half have articles that just seem like they were written by PR firms at times. My favorite take from the Bundchen article is: In 2008 Bündchen and Brady dished out turkey and all the trimmings unannounced to over 400 job trainees in Roxbury Massachusetts for Goodwill Industries International HA HA! Dishing it out.. I have now read all 100 articles. Shakira is my new favorite celebrity and Adriana Huffington is good at plagiarizing. And there are some REALLY rich women in China. -Sarah On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Done! All the stubs, at least. A couple of thoughts: a) As expected, most of the stubs weren't :-). BLPs are not my forte, but I'd say there's nine at most, and two or three of those are marginal to be uprated. [This is a pretty systemic problem with our talkpage ratings and stub tags: as Risker says, they get very stale. The sheer labour that would be required to keep them up-to-date on a systematic basis is daunting...] b) Lots of mid-range start/C mediocrity as is so often the case with Wikipedia, lots of it with a reasonable amount of content but needing some hacking around to get into shape c) If anyone is looking for a weekend project and is comfortable with political BLPs, I'd say Helen Clark is able to be pushed to GA with a bit of polishing and tidying, and Michelle Bachelet likewise. 10% of the list properly-reviewed would be nothing to sniff at. (Bachelet has an odd gap in that the article doesn't seem to have anything from her current presidency, but otherwise it's quite well-structured and not overly recentist, which is unusual for a politician's biography!). Andrew. On 17 June 2014 02:01, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should compare a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from this as well: Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... Andrew. On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot of those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should compare a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from this as well: Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... Andrew. On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot of those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
Hi Risker, Of course you are right, but that is true across the encylopedia, so the relative abundances are probably comparable. Sorting by category is interesting. We're doing particularly poorly for the women in business or technology, not too bad for women in politics, and pretty well for female celebrities. Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot of those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
I didn't find a men only list, but their list of powerful people looks close enough. (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/powerpeople I'll leave the ratings until after Andrew re-rates them ;-), but already there's a male redlink at #36 most powerful - interesting gap. Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Absolutely! Please do. Yes, it was nice to see some FA and GAs in the mix. Maybe we should compare a list of 100 most powerful men? Toby On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Stub tags are notoriously bad for this (I've just rerated half a dozen of these; Toby, are you happy for me to update the list?) On the other hand, we can take away a somewhat positive message from this as well: Two articles are FA and 6 are GA/equivalent. Across enwiki as a whole, approximately 0.6% of articles are FA or GA class. So this subset of articles is perhaps ten times better than the average... Andrew. On 16 June 2014 15:06, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: While I will agree that many of those articles could use significant improvement, I wouldn't take the assessments all that seriously; a lot of those articles have not been assessed in many years, despite intervening improvements. Risker On 16 June 2014 08:58, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: I've just wikified this in my userspace if anyone wants to quickly check out our articles on these women. The good news is that we have an article for each of them. The bad news is that article quality is pretty grim if these are truly the 100 most powerful women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:99of9/100powerwomen Toby/99of9 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Lila Tretikov named to Forbes 100 most powerful women list
Well that's quite a quick leap :) I randomly barged in to Lila in an elevator a couple weeks ago (in all seriousness), and had a brief conversation with her. I am quite excited to see what the transition brings. Best, Kevin Gorman On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is a pretty impressive showing for someone just 4 weeks into the job: being named to the Forbes list of the 100 most powerful women: http://www.forbes.com/profile/lila-tretikov/ Note that increasing diversity is, according to the brief article, a top priority. Risker/Anne ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
