Re: svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

[sebb]

On 24 April 2018 at 11:21, Jan Iversen  wrote:
>
>
>> On 24 Apr 2018, at 12:16, sebb  wrote:
>>
>> On 24 April 2018 at 10:58, Jan Iversen > > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
 On 24 Apr 2018, at 11:49, sebb  wrote:

> On 24 April 2018 at 05:52,   wrote:
> Author: henkp
> Date: Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
> New Revision: 1829959
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1829959=rev
> Log:
> rm tab (illegal)

 The text was updated to make sure it agreed with the existing Attic site.
>>> why are you aiming at 100% match with the existing site ? it hardly makes 
>>> sense, especially in cases where the exiting site have errors.
>>
>> I already explained that this makes it easier to check that the
>> existing data has been correctly included.
>>
>> If I have found errors in the existing site then I have fixed them.
>>
>> I don't know of a better way.
>>
>>> Could we please take a break in the stream of commits, and instead use the 
>>> time to decide, what we as a community wants. Making site-jekyll 100% like 
>>> the existing site (just new maintenance), does not really help the decision 
>>> of what we want.
>>>
>>
>> Am I only allowed to commit the finished PoC?
> Of course not, you are a committer you commit when you want.
>>
>>> I still argue, we just need something simple, a build script and a couple 
>>> of templates (which are easy to read).
>>
>> That is my aim too, but I am doing it in stages.
>>
>> So please don't judge the PoC until it is complete.
> I believe you have made a proof of concept, enough to make a decision, but if 
> you want to complete it, knowing the risk it will not go into production, it 
> is totally your choice.
>
> I am not against you working on site-jekyll, I am just trying to help 
> optimise our normally very scarce resources and as I wrote in my preliminary 
> review I see problems with the site-jekyll solution.

Many of the problems you mentioned are no longer present, or are in
process of being addressed.
So I think it's too early to say that the solution will not work.
Or that it does not meet whatever the requirements are.

> rgds
> Jan I.
>
>
>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan i

> Modified:
>   attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
>
> Modified: attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json?rev=1829959=1829958=1829959=diff
> ==
> --- attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json (original)
> +++ attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>   "jira":"ACE",
>   "wiki":"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ace/;,
>   "mailnames":   ["dev", "commits", "users"],
> -   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework 
> that allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
> configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built 
> using OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target 
> systems are usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
> +   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework that 
> allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
> configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built 
> using OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target 
> systems are usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
> },
> {
>   "name":"Avalon",
>

Re: svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

[Jan Iversen]

> On 24 Apr 2018, at 15:38, Henk P. Penning <penn...@uu.nl> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Jan Iversen wrote:
> 
>> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:58:10 +0200
>> From: Jan Iversen <j...@apache.org>
>> To: general@attic.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r1829959 - 
>> /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
> 
>> I still argue, we just need something simple, a build script and a
>> couple of templates (which are easy to read).
> 
>  I just committed 'mk-stuff' ; 200 lines of perl-code ;
>  for now, the texts for {index,resolution,process}.html
>  are in mk-stuff too ; I couldn't decide where to put them.
> 
>  Prog 'mk-stuff' generates {index,resolution,process}.html
>  and projects/*.
> 
>  At work : http://mirror-vm80.apache.org/index.html
> 
>  Not all (per project) attributes are shown correctly,
>  but you get the idea.
And I like the idea !

A few comments:
- How about doing “mv _data/* .” And “mv _layout/* .”, that makes things even 
simpler
- Can project.html not be without the strange loops etc ?
  Btw seems you are not using that.

- We should also remove some of the fields in projects.json
- You have the templates directly in mk_stuff, it would be more readable if 
stored as a file, and e.g. replacing ATTIC_X

Have a nice afternoon.
rgds
Jan I.
 
> 
>> jan i
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  HPP
> 
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
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Re: svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

[Henk P. Penning]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Jan Iversen wrote:


Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:58:10 +0200
From: Jan Iversen <j...@apache.org>
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json



I still argue, we just need something simple, a build script and a
couple of templates (which are easy to read).


  I just committed 'mk-stuff' ; 200 lines of perl-code ;
  for now, the texts for {index,resolution,process}.html
  are in mk-stuff too ; I couldn't decide where to put them.

  Prog 'mk-stuff' generates {index,resolution,process}.html
  and projects/*.

  At work : http://mirror-vm80.apache.org/index.html

  Not all (per project) attributes are shown correctly,
  but you get the idea.


jan i


  Regards,

  HPP

   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

[Jan Iversen]

Sent from my iPad

> On 24 Apr 2018, at 11:49, sebb  wrote:
> 
>> On 24 April 2018 at 05:52,   wrote:
>> Author: henkp
>> Date: Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
>> New Revision: 1829959
>> 
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1829959=rev
>> Log:
>> rm tab (illegal)
> 
> The text was updated to make sure it agreed with the existing Attic site.
why are you aiming at 100% match with the existing site ? it hardly makes 
sense, especially in cases where the exiting site have errors.

Could we please take a break in the stream of commits, and instead use the time 
to decide, what we as a community wants. Making site-jekyll 100% like the 
existing site (just new maintenance), does not really help the decision of what 
we want.

I still argue, we just need something simple, a build script and a couple of 
templates (which are easy to read).

rgds
jan i
> 
>> Modified:
>>attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
>> 
>> Modified: attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
>> URL: 
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json?rev=1829959=1829958=1829959=diff
>> ==
>> --- attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json (original)
>> +++ attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>"jira":"ACE",
>>"wiki":"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ace/;,
>>"mailnames":   ["dev", "commits", "users"],
>> -   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework 
>> that allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
>> configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built using 
>> OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target systems are 
>> usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
>> +   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework that 
>> allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
>> configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built using 
>> OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target systems are 
>> usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
>> },
>> {
>>"name":"Avalon",
>> 
>> 

Re: svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

[sebb]

On 24 April 2018 at 05:52,   wrote:
> Author: henkp
> Date: Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
> New Revision: 1829959
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1829959=rev
> Log:
> rm tab (illegal)

The text was updated to make sure it agreed with the existing Attic site.

> Modified:
> attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
>
> Modified: attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json?rev=1829959=1829958=1829959=diff
> ==
> --- attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json (original)
> +++ attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
> "jira":"ACE",
> "wiki":"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ace/;,
> "mailnames":   ["dev", "commits", "users"],
> -   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework that 
> allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
> configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built using 
> OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target systems are 
> usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
> +   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework that 
> allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
> configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built using 
> OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target systems are 
> usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
>  },
>  {
> "name":"Avalon",
>
>

svn commit: r1829959 - /attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

[henkp]

Author: henkp
Date: Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
New Revision: 1829959

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1829959=rev
Log:
rm tab (illegal)

Modified:
attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json

Modified: attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json?rev=1829959=1829958=1829959=diff
==
--- attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json (original)
+++ attic/site-jekyll/src/_data/projects.json Tue Apr 24 04:52:50 2018
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
"jira":"ACE",
"wiki":"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ace/;,
"mailnames":   ["dev", "commits", "users"],
-   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework that 
allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built using 
OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target systems are 
usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
+   "description": "Apache ACE was a software distribution framework that 
allows you to centrally manage and distribute software components, 
configuration data and other artifacts to target systems. It is built using 
OSGi and can be deployed in different topologies. The target systems are 
usually also OSGi based, but don't have to be. "
 },
 {
"name":"Avalon",