Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

2010-03-05 Thread Shannon Roddy 
>>Outlook<<

Hey... I think I found your problem.

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Mark A. Lappin  wrote:

> Some of it on my end is going to "Junk Mail" via Outlook's crazy filtering
> rules.  SpamSoap (rebranded mxlogic filtering) is stopping a few of the
> messages here and there.
>
>
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
> Behalf Of Brad Bendily
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:35 AM
> To: general@brlug.net
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering
>
> "Some" of the conversation?
> How exactly does it do that?
> bb
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Warren "Tray" Torrance
>  wrote:
> > Ironically, some of this conversation was marked as spam for me.
> >
> > Warren "Tray" Torrance
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 16:10, -ray  wrote:
> >>
> >> 2nd the Roaringpenguin.com recommendation.  We used the open-source
> >> version (MIMEDefang) for years and years.  It worked great.  Never had
> the
> >> GUI (+postgres backend) or the advanced spam stuff, but i'd tested it
> and
> >> liked it.
> >>
> >> If you just want a blacklist, spamhaus is the best one out there.
> >>
> >> If you intend to go total open source (mimedefang, spamassassin,
> clamav),
> >> I'll say it's doable but it's almost a full time job keeping up with the
> >> rules and making sure you're watching and defending against the attack
> du
> >> jour.  For spam fighting, it's definitely not set it and forget it.
> >> Depending on your mail volume of course.  We ended up going with a
> >> commercial appliance (IronPort).
> >>
> >> ray
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Shannon Roddy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Roaringpenguin.com
> >>>
> >>> GUI-fied open source packages (or debian based appliance) for a
> >>> not-so-bad
> >>> price with good support and feeds for rules.  Customizable per-domain
> >>> and/or
> >>> per-user configurations, etc.  It just works.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tim Fournet 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on
>  open
>  source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions
>  we've
>  been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting
> SPAM
>  is
>  always a changing war.
> 
>  I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but
> I
>  want to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I
>  wouldn't
>  mind a subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or
>  blacklist if there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a
>  good
>  open source framework to start with.
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

2010-03-05 Thread Ryan McCain 
Here's a good writeup on this

http://www.bu.edu/rbarnett/Original.htm 


-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
-ray
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:36 PM
To: 'general@brlug.net'
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights


I always goofed off in civics and history class, so I had to goto WIkipedia.

Enumerated powers, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the US Constitution states 
Congress has the power:

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and 
with the Indian tribes;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Enumerated_powers

How does deciding who a company can trade with *NOT* fall under regulating 
commerce with foreign nations?

ray

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote:

> The Constitution enumerates all the powers of the government.  Deciding who a 
> company can trade with isn't one of them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On 
> Behalf Of -ray
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:30 PM
> To: 'general@brlug.net'
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
>
>
> I don't think it is unlawful or unconstitutional for the government to forbid 
> an American company, say Northrop Grumman, from doing any business with a 
> foreign company, say Iran.  For obvious reasons.
>
> You can do business with China though.  Then they'll do business with Iran.
>
> Oh wait.  When you say overlords, did you mean our Chinese overlords? 
> :)
>
> ray
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote:
>
>> The majority of what our overlords do is unlawful.  Positive law isn't legit 
>> if it violates the Constitution.
>>
>>
>> Ryan McCain
>> Northrop Grumman Corporation
>> Email: ryan.mcc...@la.gov
>> Phone: 225.505.3832
>>
>> Registered Linux User #364609
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:28 PM
>> To: general@brlug.net
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
>>
>> Do you mean they have no moral or legal authority? They certainly have the 
>> legal authority (e.g., Cuba, munitions).
>>
>> ---
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>> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Ryan McCain
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:19 PM
>> To: 'general@brlug.net'
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
>>
>> Our government has 0 authority to tell private companies who their customers 
>> can and cannot be.
>>
>>
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:48:31 -0600
>> From: dpury...@puryear-it.com
>> To: general@brlug.net
>> Subject: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights Now, this may 
>> be a good idea:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_h
>> u
>> man_rights_bill.html
>>
>> The basic idea: The law "would impose criminal or civil penalties on U.S. 
>> Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign governments and violate 
>> human rights."
>>
>> Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US companies from 
>> competing in markets like China, which are huge. So would this put our 
>> companies at a long-term disadvantage?
>>
>> Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company that 
>> operates in the US.
>>
>> ---
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>> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies
>>
>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers"
>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it 
>> now.
>>
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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

2010-03-05 Thread Ryan McCain 
I don't want to spam this list w/ debating the Constitution but you have to 
look at what "regulate" and "commerce" meant at the time of the signing of the 
Constitution.  "Regulate" basically meant to keep regular, or not interfere.
 


Ryan McCain
Northrop Grumman Corporation
Email: ryan.mcc...@la.gov
Phone: 225.505.3832

Registered Linux User #364609

-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
-ray
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:36 PM
To: 'general@brlug.net'
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights


I always goofed off in civics and history class, so I had to goto WIkipedia.

Enumerated powers, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the US Constitution states 
Congress has the power:

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and 
with the Indian tribes;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Enumerated_powers

How does deciding who a company can trade with *NOT* fall under regulating 
commerce with foreign nations?

ray

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote:

> The Constitution enumerates all the powers of the government.  Deciding who a 
> company can trade with isn't one of them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On 
> Behalf Of -ray
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:30 PM
> To: 'general@brlug.net'
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
>
>
> I don't think it is unlawful or unconstitutional for the government to forbid 
> an American company, say Northrop Grumman, from doing any business with a 
> foreign company, say Iran.  For obvious reasons.
>
> You can do business with China though.  Then they'll do business with Iran.
>
> Oh wait.  When you say overlords, did you mean our Chinese overlords? 
> :)
>
> ray
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote:
>
>> The majority of what our overlords do is unlawful.  Positive law isn't legit 
>> if it violates the Constitution.
>>
>>
>> Ryan McCain
>> Northrop Grumman Corporation
>> Email: ryan.mcc...@la.gov
>> Phone: 225.505.3832
>>
>> Registered Linux User #364609
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:28 PM
>> To: general@brlug.net
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
>>
>> Do you mean they have no moral or legal authority? They certainly have the 
>> legal authority (e.g., Cuba, munitions).
>>
>> ---
>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active 
>> Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and 
>> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies
>>
>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers"
>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/
>>
>> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Ryan McCain
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:19 PM
>> To: 'general@brlug.net'
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
>>
>> Our government has 0 authority to tell private companies who their customers 
>> can and cannot be.
>>
>>
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:48:31 -0600
>> From: dpury...@puryear-it.com
>> To: general@brlug.net
>> Subject: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights Now, this may 
>> be a good idea:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_h
>> u
>> man_rights_bill.html
>>
>> The basic idea: The law "would impose criminal or civil penalties on U.S. 
>> Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign governments and violate 
>> human rights."
>>
>> Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US companies from 
>> competing in markets like China, which are huge. So would this put our 
>> companies at a long-term disadvantage?
>>
>> Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company that 
>> operates in the US.
>>
>> ---
>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active 
>> Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and 
>> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies
>>
>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers"
>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it 
>> now.
>>
>
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> Systems EngineerSoutheastern Louisiana University
> IBM Certified SpecialistAIX Administration, AIX Support
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>
>
>

Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

2010-03-05 Thread Warren "Tray" Torrance 
The magic of gmail's spam filtering is how, I suppose. I think they use
Postini, assuming it's the same one they provide for GoogleApps subscribers.
Warren "Tray" Torrance


On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 08:35, Brad Bendily  wrote:

> "Some" of the conversation?
> How exactly does it do that?
> bb
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Warren "Tray" Torrance
>  wrote:
> > Ironically, some of this conversation was marked as spam for me.
> >
> > Warren "Tray" Torrance
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 16:10, -ray  wrote:
> >>
> >> 2nd the Roaringpenguin.com recommendation.  We used the open-source
> >> version (MIMEDefang) for years and years.  It worked great.  Never had
> the
> >> GUI (+postgres backend) or the advanced spam stuff, but i'd tested it
> and
> >> liked it.
> >>
> >> If you just want a blacklist, spamhaus is the best one out there.
> >>
> >> If you intend to go total open source (mimedefang, spamassassin,
> clamav),
> >> I'll say it's doable but it's almost a full time job keeping up with the
> >> rules and making sure you're watching and defending against the attack
> du
> >> jour.  For spam fighting, it's definitely not set it and forget it.
> >> Depending on your mail volume of course.  We ended up going with a
> >> commercial appliance (IronPort).
> >>
> >> ray
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Shannon Roddy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Roaringpenguin.com
> >>>
> >>> GUI-fied open source packages (or debian based appliance) for a
> >>> not-so-bad
> >>> price with good support and feeds for rules.  Customizable per-domain
> >>> and/or
> >>> per-user configurations, etc.  It just works.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tim Fournet 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on
>  open
>  source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions
>  we've
>  been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting
> SPAM
>  is
>  always a changing war.
> 
>  I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but
> I
>  want to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I
>  wouldn't
>  mind a subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or
>  blacklist if there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a
>  good
>  open source framework to start with.
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

2010-03-05 Thread Mark A. Lappin 
Some of it on my end is going to "Junk Mail" via Outlook's crazy filtering 
rules.  SpamSoap (rebranded mxlogic filtering) is stopping a few of the 
messages here and there.




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-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
Brad Bendily
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:35 AM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

"Some" of the conversation?
How exactly does it do that?
bb

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Warren "Tray" Torrance
 wrote:
> Ironically, some of this conversation was marked as spam for me.
>
> Warren "Tray" Torrance
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 16:10, -ray  wrote:
>>
>> 2nd the Roaringpenguin.com recommendation.  We used the open-source
>> version (MIMEDefang) for years and years.  It worked great.  Never had the
>> GUI (+postgres backend) or the advanced spam stuff, but i'd tested it and
>> liked it.
>>
>> If you just want a blacklist, spamhaus is the best one out there.
>>
>> If you intend to go total open source (mimedefang, spamassassin, clamav),
>> I'll say it's doable but it's almost a full time job keeping up with the
>> rules and making sure you're watching and defending against the attack du
>> jour.  For spam fighting, it's definitely not set it and forget it.
>> Depending on your mail volume of course.  We ended up going with a
>> commercial appliance (IronPort).
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>
>>> Roaringpenguin.com
>>>
>>> GUI-fied open source packages (or debian based appliance) for a
>>> not-so-bad
>>> price with good support and feeds for rules.  Customizable per-domain
>>> and/or
>>> per-user configurations, etc.  It just works.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tim Fournet  wrote:
>>>
 I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on
 open
 source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions
 we've
 been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting SPAM
 is
 always a changing war.

 I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but I
 want to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I
 wouldn't
 mind a subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or
 blacklist if there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a
 good
 open source framework to start with.

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>>
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Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

2010-03-05 Thread Brad Bendily 
"Some" of the conversation?
How exactly does it do that?
bb

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Warren "Tray" Torrance
 wrote:
> Ironically, some of this conversation was marked as spam for me.
>
> Warren "Tray" Torrance
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 16:10, -ray  wrote:
>>
>> 2nd the Roaringpenguin.com recommendation.  We used the open-source
>> version (MIMEDefang) for years and years.  It worked great.  Never had the
>> GUI (+postgres backend) or the advanced spam stuff, but i'd tested it and
>> liked it.
>>
>> If you just want a blacklist, spamhaus is the best one out there.
>>
>> If you intend to go total open source (mimedefang, spamassassin, clamav),
>> I'll say it's doable but it's almost a full time job keeping up with the
>> rules and making sure you're watching and defending against the attack du
>> jour.  For spam fighting, it's definitely not set it and forget it.
>> Depending on your mail volume of course.  We ended up going with a
>> commercial appliance (IronPort).
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>
>>> Roaringpenguin.com
>>>
>>> GUI-fied open source packages (or debian based appliance) for a
>>> not-so-bad
>>> price with good support and feeds for rules.  Customizable per-domain
>>> and/or
>>> per-user configurations, etc.  It just works.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tim Fournet  wrote:
>>>
 I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on
 open
 source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions
 we've
 been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting SPAM
 is
 always a changing war.

 I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but I
 want to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I
 wouldn't
 mind a subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or
 blacklist if there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a
 good
 open source framework to start with.

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Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

2010-03-05 Thread Warren "Tray" Torrance 
Ironically, some of this conversation was marked as spam for me.

Warren "Tray" Torrance


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 16:10, -ray  wrote:

>
> 2nd the Roaringpenguin.com recommendation.  We used the open-source version
> (MIMEDefang) for years and years.  It worked great.  Never had the GUI
> (+postgres backend) or the advanced spam stuff, but i'd tested it and liked
> it.
>
> If you just want a blacklist, spamhaus is the best one out there.
>
> If you intend to go total open source (mimedefang, spamassassin, clamav),
> I'll say it's doable but it's almost a full time job keeping up with the
> rules and making sure you're watching and defending against the attack du
> jour.  For spam fighting, it's definitely not set it and forget it.
> Depending on your mail volume of course.  We ended up going with a
> commercial appliance (IronPort).
>
> ray
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Shannon Roddy wrote:
>
>  Roaringpenguin.com
>>
>> GUI-fied open source packages (or debian based appliance) for a not-so-bad
>> price with good support and feeds for rules.  Customizable per-domain
>> and/or
>> per-user configurations, etc.  It just works.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tim Fournet  wrote:
>>
>>  I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on open
>>> source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions
>>> we've
>>> been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting SPAM
>>> is
>>> always a changing war.
>>>
>>> I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but I
>>> want to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I
>>> wouldn't
>>> mind a subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or
>>> blacklist if there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a good
>>> open source framework to start with.
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