Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
Nerd. From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:31 PM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? For some reason I've recently started receiving 1-2 spam messages a week at my Gmail account. I NEVER used to see spam in that account. It's also usually professional stuff, so I think it must be third-party solicitations from groups I'm a member of, or sites like LinkedIn. I was pretty good at recognizing them and getting rid of them, until I recently created a false positive with my own actions... I saw an email from "Frodo Baggins" with the subject line, "Jo Opportunity." So I figure, "Oh how hilarious somebody knows I'm a nerd" and deleted it. Later I got a call from a friend asking if "I had seen any weird email messages." Once I put two and two together, I realized that he was being a smartass and had sent me an email (and BCCed a few others) trying to enlist my help to "take the One Ring to Mordor to cast into the fires of Mount Doom." It seemed like some spammer shit, and the poor spelling in the subject line didn't help. :P On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Karthik Poobal wrote: Was your friend using Hotmail? :) For me, it's a non issue. Once I switched to google apps I probably see couple of spam messages a month and even that I delete without thinking too much about it. Now that I think about it, I get more spam in my snail mail box every Thursday than in my email box. At least with email I can do something to stop spam in my inbox. I'd like to cancel my mail(snail) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hox-ni8geIw Fax spam? We still get them in our office. As an individual, it does not make any sense to run your own email server any more. Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents kart...@poobal.net kart...@la.gov 225.341.5855 skype: poobal On 6/4/10 9:34 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > A philosophical question.. > > I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy > afterwards and so didn't respond very promptly, and then got the following: > > ... > > Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. > > I'm spam listing your domain to this address. > > You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. > > ... > > It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder > if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has > spam really killed email? > > --- > > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- "The world's my oyster, a hotel room's my prison cell..." ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
For some reason I've recently started receiving 1-2 spam messages a week at my Gmail account. I NEVER used to see spam in that account. It's also usually professional stuff, so I think it must be third-party solicitations from groups I'm a member of, or sites like LinkedIn. I was pretty good at recognizing them and getting rid of them, until I recently created a false positive with my own actions... I saw an email from "Frodo Baggins" with the subject line, "Jo Opportunity." So I figure, "Oh how hilarious somebody knows I'm a nerd" and deleted it. Later I got a call from a friend asking if "I had seen any weird email messages." Once I put two and two together, I realized that he was being a smartass and had sent me an email (and BCCed a few others) trying to enlist my help to "take the One Ring to Mordor to cast into the fires of Mount Doom." It seemed like some spammer shit, and the poor spelling in the subject line didn't help. :P On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Karthik Poobal wrote: > Was your friend using Hotmail? :) > > > For me, it's a non issue. Once I switched to google apps I probably see > couple of spam messages a month and even that I delete without thinking > too much about it. Now that I think about it, I get more spam in my > snail mail box every Thursday than in my email box. At least with email > I can do something to stop spam in my inbox. I'd like to cancel my > mail(snail) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hox-ni8geIw > > Fax spam? We still get them in our office. As an individual, it does not > make any sense to run your own email server any more. > > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > kart...@poobal.net > kart...@la.gov > 225.341.5855 > skype: poobal > > On 6/4/10 9:34 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > A philosophical question.. > > > > I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy > > afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the > following: > > > > … > > > > Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. > > > > I'm spam listing your domain to this address. > > > > You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to > interact. > > > > … > > > > It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder > > if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has > > spam really killed email? > > > > --- > > > > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > > > > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > > > > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > > > > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > > > > > ___ > > General mailing list > > General@brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- "The world's my oyster, a hotel room's my prison cell..." ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
Was your friend using Hotmail? :) For me, it's a non issue. Once I switched to google apps I probably see couple of spam messages a month and even that I delete without thinking too much about it. Now that I think about it, I get more spam in my snail mail box every Thursday than in my email box. At least with email I can do something to stop spam in my inbox. I'd like to cancel my mail(snail) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hox-ni8geIw Fax spam? We still get them in our office. As an individual, it does not make any sense to run your own email server any more. Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents kart...@poobal.net kart...@la.gov 225.341.5855 skype: poobal On 6/4/10 9:34 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > A philosophical question.. > > I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy > afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the following: > > … > > Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. > > I'm spam listing your domain to this address. > > You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. > > … > > It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder > if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has > spam really killed email? > > --- > > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
The issues I have with email have been kind of alluded to by you guys, and that is basically this: We're getting bombarded with emails from companies that we *did* sign up for email from, but did *not* expect to be *constantly contacted* by. An update once in a while about a new product or promotion is acceptable, but when I get 3-5 "webinar" invites from the same company every week, it's disruptive, and I end up unsubscribing from their lists. I think something is wrong with a company that, for example, sends many many emails to me per day trying to sell me their anti-spam solution! Though, it's technically not spam, since apparently at some point I did sign up for it, it has the same annoyance level. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > If I get 4 or 5 spam out of a couple hundred messages per day I don't > consider it a problem. It's not like they are hard to spot and take more > than about 1 second each to delete. I waste at least 10x more on useless > e-mails from coworkers. > > On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > Haha, no, he’s not weird, but I take it he’s gone a little jaded. I have to > admit I struggle with spam a bit myself. I delete about 4-5 emails a day > that are spam that get past our filter. > > *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net > [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net > ] *On Behalf Of *mat branyon > *Sent:* Friday, June 04, 2010 9:44 AM > *To:* general@brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? > > > negative. email seems to be working for me. > from my phone even. > > maybe you keep weird friends > > On Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: > A philosophical question.. > > I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy > afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the following: > > … > Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. > > I'm spam listing your domain to this address. > > You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to > interact. > … > > It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if > spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam > really killed email? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
Haha. True. From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:55 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? If I get 4 or 5 spam out of a couple hundred messages per day I don't consider it a problem. It's not like they are hard to spot and take more than about 1 second each to delete. I waste at least 10x more on useless e-mails from coworkers. On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: Haha, no, he's not weird, but I take it he's gone a little jaded. I have to admit I struggle with spam a bit myself. I delete about 4-5 emails a day that are spam that get past our filter. From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:44 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? negative. email seems to be working for me. from my phone even. maybe you keep weird friends On Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn't respond very promptly, and then got the following: ... Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. ... It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
If I get 4 or 5 spam out of a couple hundred messages per day I don't consider it a problem. It's not like they are hard to spot and take more than about 1 second each to delete. I waste at least 10x more on useless e-mails from coworkers. On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: Haha, no, he’s not weird, but I take it he’s gone a little jaded. I have to admit I struggle with spam a bit myself. I delete about 4-5 emails a day that are spam that get past our filter. From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:44 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? negative. email seems to be working for me. from my phone even. maybe you keep weird friends On Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the following: … Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. … It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
Haha, no, he's not weird, but I take it he's gone a little jaded. I have to admit I struggle with spam a bit myself. I delete about 4-5 emails a day that are spam that get past our filter. From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:44 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? negative. email seems to be working for me. from my phone even. maybe you keep weird friends On Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn't respond very promptly, and then got the following: ... Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. ... It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
Well, that's a good point. Puryear IT has hit that snag before. We finally moved to Constant Contact since they handle spam reports, unsubscribes, etc. I felt it was better to let the professionals manage our newsletters. I actually recommend them. If you have someone on your newsletter, and they report you as spam, Constant Contact will reach out to you and find out what's going on. So they're pretty serious about it. I like them. From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:42 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? The majority of my blatant, uninvited spam is caught with a high level of reliability. Instead, what makes e-mail less pleasant for me is mass-mail from companies I've dealt with that don't seem to acknowledge the "unsubscribe" button. Warren "Tray" Torrance On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 09:39, Ryan McCain wrote: Hardly. I can't remember the last time I unknowingly opened more than 5 spam messages in a single week. Ryan McCain Northrop Grumman Corporation Email: ryan.mcc...@la.gov Phone: 225.505.3832 Registered Linux User #364609 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:34 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn't respond very promptly, and then got the following: ... Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. ... It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
negative. email seems to be working for me. from my phone even. maybe you keep weird friends On Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the following: … Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. … It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
The majority of my blatant, uninvited spam is caught with a high level of reliability. Instead, what makes e-mail less pleasant for me is mass-mail from companies I've dealt with that don't seem to acknowledge the "unsubscribe" button. Warren "Tray" Torrance On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 09:39, Ryan McCain wrote: > Hardly. I can’t remember the last time I unknowingly opened more than 5 > spam messages in a single week. > > Ryan McCain > Northrop Grumman Corporation > Email: ryan.mcc...@la.gov > Phone: 225.505.3832 > > Registered Linux User #364609 > -- > > *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *Dustin Puryear > *Sent:* Friday, June 04, 2010 9:34 AM > *To:* general@brlug.net > *Subject:* [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? > > > > A philosophical question.. > > > > I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy > afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the following: > > > > … > > Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. > > > > I'm spam listing your domain to this address. > > > > You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to > interact. > > … > > > > It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if > spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam > really killed email? > > > > --- > > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
Hardly. I can't remember the last time I unknowingly opened more than 5 spam messages in a single week. Ryan McCain Northrop Grumman Corporation Email: ryan.mcc...@la.gov Phone: 225.505.3832 Registered Linux User #364609 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:34 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet? A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn't respond very promptly, and then got the following: ... Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. ... It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
[brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?
A philosophical question.. I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy afterwards and so didn't respond very promptly, and then got the following: ... Automated form touch letters. Nice, Dustin. I'm spam listing your domain to this address. You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to interact. ... It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam really killed email? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
