Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
On 10/22/2012 10:38 AM, Florent Georges wrote: >But my concern is that the name is not stable. You can change > the name of one database, and in that case I want the config to > still point to the same database. Of course, I always display > the name instead of the ID in the user interface ;-) > Hm - renaming - I never considered that; I guess we just don't use that feature :) -Mike ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
Mike Sokolov wrote: Hi, > So if you have, say, a development setup and a production > setup, they can share the same database names, but not the same > database ids. You can always get the id for a name using > xdmp:database() But my concern is that the name is not stable. You can change the name of one database, and in that case I want the config to still point to the same database. Of course, I always display the name instead of the ID in the user interface ;-) And by nature the config file is not aimed at being shared between instances, because it reflects a lot of other stuff installed and managed by the application. An export/import process for the whole or part of the "stuff" would make sense though, but then names would be used as part of that process, among many other things. Thanks for the thoughts Mike, it's been useful to decide that 1/ I want to keep using IDs ;-), 2/ I want to stop using the name I cache alongside the ID in the config (I rather want to always retrieve it from the ID when presenting to the user), and 3/ I want to keep the cached name in the config file, just for debugging purposes... Regards, -- Florent Georges http://fgeorges.org/ http://h2oconsulting.be/ ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
FWIW, we generally use the database names rather than their ids in our configuration files. It's just easier to see what's going on if you have a lot of configuration data to sort through, and as Michael Blakeley pointed out, the ids won't be portable. So if you have, say, a development setup and a production setup, they can share the same database names, but not the same database ids. You can always get the id for a name using xdmp:database() Also, there are some APIs (like the Java XCC API) that expect a name for specifying a database. Maybe you can use ids there, too, but I'm not sure you can. -Mike On 10/21/2012 01:49 PM, Florent Georges wrote: >Hi, > >For some configuration purpose, I have to point to databases > from a config file. Can I use the IDs of the databases, as > returned by admin:get-database-ids()? Are they guaranted not to > change, ever? And same for App Servers ? > >Regards, > > > ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
Hi Florent, Might be worth to have a look at the configuration manager that comes with MarkLogic since 5.0.. Kind regards, Geert > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: general-boun...@developer.marklogic.com [mailto:general- > boun...@developer.marklogic.com] Namens Florent Georges > Verzonden: zondag 21 oktober 2012 21:14 > Aan: Michael Blakeley; MarkLogic Developer Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID? > > Michael Blakeley wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > The only problem with ids is that they are not portable. So > > the config file from one cluster won't work with another. If > > that's acceptable, then ids should be fine. > > Good point, indeed. But the scope is one MarkLogic Server > instance (they are used only in the config file of a web > application deployed on the instance, and they are not aimed at > being sent to another instance), so it is fine then. > > Thank you! > > -- > Florent Georges > http://fgeorges.org/ > http://h2oconsulting.be/ > ___ > General mailing list > General@developer.marklogic.com > http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
Michael Blakeley wrote: Hi Michael, > The only problem with ids is that they are not portable. So > the config file from one cluster won't work with another. If > that's acceptable, then ids should be fine. Good point, indeed. But the scope is one MarkLogic Server instance (they are used only in the config file of a web application deployed on the instance, and they are not aimed at being sent to another instance), so it is fine then. Thank you! -- Florent Georges http://fgeorges.org/ http://h2oconsulting.be/ ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
John Snelson wrote: > The IDs are globally unique and will not change for the lifetime > of the database or app server, so they seem ideal for your > purposes. Yes they seem so. Thank you John! -- Florent Georges http://fgeorges.org/ http://h2oconsulting.be/ ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
The only problem with ids is that they are not portable. So the config file from one cluster won't work with another. If that's acceptable, then ids should be fine. -- Mike On 21 Oct 2012, at 10:49 , Florent Georges wrote: > Hi, > > For some configuration purpose, I have to point to databases > from a config file. Can I use the IDs of the databases, as > returned by admin:get-database-ids()? Are they guaranted not to > change, ever? And same for App Servers ? > > Regards, > > > -- > Florent Georges > http://fgeorges.org/ > http://h2oconsulting.be/ > ___ > General mailing list > General@developer.marklogic.com > http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general > ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
Hi Florent, On 21/10/12 18:49, Florent Georges wrote: >For some configuration purpose, I have to point to databases > from a config file. Can I use the IDs of the databases, as > returned by admin:get-database-ids()? Are they guaranted not to > change, ever? And same for App Servers ? The IDs are globally unique and will not change for the lifetime of the database or app server, so they seem ideal for your purposes. John -- John Snelson, Lead Engineerhttp://twitter.com/jpcs MarkLogic Corporation http://www.marklogic.com ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
[MarkLogic Dev General] Pointing to a database: using its ID?
Hi, For some configuration purpose, I have to point to databases from a config file. Can I use the IDs of the databases, as returned by admin:get-database-ids()? Are they guaranted not to change, ever? And same for App Servers ? Regards, -- Florent Georges http://fgeorges.org/ http://h2oconsulting.be/ ___ General mailing list General@developer.marklogic.com http://developer.marklogic.com/mailman/listinfo/general
