Re: OpenStatServer is interested in Apache Incubation

2005-09-14 Thread Roy T . Fielding

On Sep 13, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

On Wednesday 14 September 2005 02:16, Gabe Rudy wrote:
In our last meeting, we decided to seek out an organization to hold 
the

copyrights an provide legal protection for the open source project.


FYI, Apache Software Foundation does not hold the copyrights,


That is not always true.  The Apache Software Foundation does not
require that new contributions be in the form of a copyright assignment.
However, the ASF has not rejected such an assignment when it has
been offered.  If there is a legitimate reason for desiring to
assign copyright to the ASF and there is nothing legally preventing
such an assignment, then I believe the board of directors would be
willing to accept ownership of copyright for code contributed
to one of our projects.

However, I suggest that you find out first whether there is
sufficient interest at Apache to support a collaborative project.

Roy


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[Ftpserver] Paul Hammant's Observations

2005-09-14 Thread Rana Bhattacharyya
Hi Paul,

I did not get this mail in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] So I missed it.

Anyway, these are the points.

1. I can see ftplet directory src and binary
distributions. Which ftplet directory are you
mentioning? 

2. Now I am working on maven support. When I tried to
merge Maven support patch by David DeWolf, I noticed
many checkstyle errors and I need to change all the
document xdoc files. So I would have missed 15th
September. I shall commit all Maven related changes
soon.

3. In my opinion multiple subprojects complicate the
structure. So I have merged these into one. If
necessary we can change the build script to
include/exclude ftplet or gui folders to make separate
jar files.

Thanks,
Rana Bhattacharyya

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Paul Hammant wrote:

Rana,

1) there is an ftplet directory missing ..

2) You've got rid of Maven and gone back to ant?

3) and collapsed multiple sub projects into one source
tree?

- Paul

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[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Sep 14 23:47:34 2005

2005-09-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS:  -*-indented-text-*-
Last modified at [$Date: 2005-01-20 01:12:13 -0500 (Thu, 20 Jan 2005) $]

Web site:  http://Incubator.Apache.Org/
Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/

[note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki pages
 are for collaborative development, including stuff destined for the
 Web site.]

Pending Issues
==

o Clearly and authoritatively document how to edit, generate,
  and update the Web site (three separate functions).

o Move the stable wiki pages into the official site.

o We need to be very very clear about what it takes to be accepted
  into the incubator.  It should be a very low bar to leap, possibly
  not much more than 'no problematic code' and the existence of a
  healthy community (we don't want to become a dumping ground).

o We need to be very very clear about what it takes for a podling
  to graduate from the incubator.  The basic requirements obviously
  include: has a home, either as part of another ASF project or as
  a new top-level project of its own; needs to be a credit to the
  ASF and function well in the ASF framework; ...

o Moving the bylaw documentation from the Wiki to the main site

o fix formatting of the project status pages

Resolved Issues
===

o The policy documentation does not need ratification of changes
  if there seems consensus. Accordingly, the draft status of these
  documents can be removed and we will use the lazy "commit first,
  discuss later" mode common across the ASF for documentation
  (http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&by=thread&from=517190)

o Coming up with a set of bylaws for the project
  (http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&by=thread&from=517190)

o All projects under incubation must use a STATUS file (or a
  status.xml file if the project prefers XML) that contains
  information the PMC needs about the project. This file must
  live at the root of the project cvs module
  (http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&by=thread&from=504543)

o Projects under incubation should display appropriate "disclaimers"
  so that it is clear that they are, indeed, under incubation
  (http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&by=thread&from=504543)

The Incubation Process
==

This tries to list all the actions items that must be complete for a project
before it can graduate from the incubator. It is probably incomplete.

Identify the project to be incubated:

  -- Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist
 and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not
 already trademarked for an existing software product.

  -- If request from an existing Apache project to adopt an external
 package, then ask the Apache project for the cvs module and mail
 address names.

  -- If request from outside Apache to enter an existing Apache project,
 then post a message to that project for them to decide on acceptance.

  -- If request from anywhere to become a stand-alone PMC, then assess
 the fit with the ASF, and create the lists and modules under the
 incubator address/module names if accepted.

Interim responsibility:

  -- Who has been identified as the mentor for the incubation?

  -- Are they tracking progress in the file

  incubator/projects/{project_name}/STATUS

Copyright:

  -- Have the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received?
 It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the
 core code, and any new code produced by the project.

  -- Have the files been updated to reflect the new ASF copyright?

Verify distribution rights:

  -- For all code included with the distribution that is not under the
 Apache license, do we have the right to combine with Apache-licensed
 code and redistribute?

  -- Is all source code distributed by the project covered by one or more
 of the following approved licenses:  Apache, BSD, Artistic, MIT/X,
 MIT/W3C, MPL 1.1, or something with essentially the same terms?

Establish a list of active committers:

  -- Are all active committers in the STATUS file?

  -- Do they have accounts on cvs.apache.org?

  -- Have they submitted a contributors agreement?

Infrastructure:

  -- CVS modules created and committers added to avail file?

  -- Mailing lists set up and archived?

  -- Problem tracking system (Bugzilla)?

  -- Has the project migrated to our infrastructure?

Collaborative Development:

  -- Have all of the active long-term volunteers been identified
 and acknowledged as committers on the project?

  -- Are there three or more independent committers?

 [The legal definition of independent is long and boring, but basically
  it means that there is no binding relationship be

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

2005-09-14 Thread Arvid Hülsebus

Hello!

Ted Husted wrote:
... Once the IP is cleared, we can move it to the MyFaces area, and 
deal with things like new committers as MyFaces project issues.


We faxed the ICLAs and CCLA to the ASF last Wednesday. Additionally we
sent them per snail mail as a precaution.

Is there anything else we can do?

Thanks in advance,

Arvid Hülsebus


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Re: configure svn client

2005-09-14 Thread Rana Bhattacharyya
My mistake. Configuring my svn client now.

Thanks,
Rana Bhattacharyya


--- David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Would all committers please configure their SVN
> client
> properly:
>
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn
> 
> Rana, i noticed this with your recent commits for
> ftpserver.
> The PDF files should have a different SVN property,
> shown
> in the abovementioned config. We don't need to see
> the
> diffs for the PDF documents.
> 
> -David
> 


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Re: configure svn client

2005-09-14 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 16:39, David Crossley wrote:
> Would all committers please configure their SVN client
> properly:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn
>
> Rana, i noticed this with your recent commits for ftpserver.
> The PDF files should have a different SVN property, shown
> in the abovementioned config. We don't need to see the
> diffs for the PDF documents.

I disagree that the given svn config file is correct. *.bat and *.sh should 
not be native eol... :o(

Cheers
Niclas

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Re: incubating jabberd2?

2005-09-14 Thread Ted Leung

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I'm late, but I was on vacation (including e-mail).

I am also interested in seeing something happen in the XMPP space.

Ted

On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

I've talked with the developers of the jabberd2 server [1] about  
the possibility of initiating their Jabber/XMPP server into the  
ways of Apache. They're open to and interested in incubation and  
would like to know if Apache folks might be interested, too. If so,  
I'll work with them to develop a proposal.


[1] http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/2/

Thoughts?

Peter

--
Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml



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configure svn client

2005-09-14 Thread David Crossley
Would all committers please configure their SVN client
properly:
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn

Rana, i noticed this with your recent commits for ftpserver.
The PDF files should have a different SVN property, shown
in the abovementioned config. We don't need to see the
diffs for the PDF documents.

-David

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