Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)
Thank you for all the feedback, would it be possible to post a link to this at least one registered for web software as mentioned by someone in the thread. This would be helpful to me. Kind regards, Carl. Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had read Roys comment to be that there they where not used in software in the related domain. I may have read more into the statement than I I think you misunderstood Roy's comment. Let me re-paste his comment as I think you are confusing what he originally said: In any case, BLAZE is one of the more over-registered trademarks in the USPTO with 329 applications, most of them live and at least one registered for web software. It is not an acceptable name for a podling. So, once again, according to his research, the name Blaze *is* already used in software already. -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] [RESULTS] CeltiXfire Project Proposal
On 24 Jul 06, at 1:06 PM 24 Jul 06, Adinarayana Sakala wrote: Great. In the interim i will go over the committer list and get the paper work thing sorted out. Once the mailing list is setup we can probably start having these type of discussions over there. For the website, you mean Incubator project status website? http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tuscany.html That page and the generate site like http://incubator.apache.org/ tuscany/ Jason. Thanks, Adi On 7/24/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Jul 06, at 11:51 AM 24 Jul 06, Adinarayana Sakala wrote: This is great news. Thanks everybody. What is the next administrative step in the process? I'm getting the mailing lists setup and I will get a first version of the site going. Once the lists are up we can discuss bring the code into Apache. Jason. - Adi On 7/22/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, About 10 days has elapsed so I'm going to close the vote on CeltixFire and say it's been accepted by the PMC Incubator, the binding votes are below and I've included the voting thread for reference. Jason van Zyl James Strachan Peter Royal Alex Karasulu Brett Porter Martin van den Bemt Robert Burrell Donkin Sanjiva Weerawarana Henri Yandell Cliff Schmidt Noel Bergman http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/ 200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (that's the initial messsage, can't figure out how to get a link for a thread) Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adi Sakala http://celtix.objectweb.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adi Sakala http://celtix.objectweb.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RESULT] [VOTE] [policy] document cleanup (part 1)
for the following changes (intended to be policy neutral) i count: On 7/20/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: change to policy document https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-29 binding +1's: robert burrell donkin Justin Erenkrantz Yoav Shapira non-binding +1s: Craig L Russell PASSED change to policy document https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-30 binding +1's: robert burrell donkin Justin Erenkrantz Yoav Shapira non-binding +1s: Craig L Russell PASSED change to policy document https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-31 binding +1's: robert burrell donkin Justin Erenkrantz Yoav Shapira non-binding +1s: Craig L Russell PASSED change to policy document https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-32 binding +1's: robert burrell donkin Justin Erenkrantz Yoav Shapira non-binding +1s: Craig L Russell PASSED change to policy document https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-35 the typo in the patch is noted (thanks justin and craig) and (unless there are objections) a cleaned up version will be applied binding +1's: robert burrell donkin Justin Erenkrantz Yoav Shapira non-binding +1s: Craig L Russell PASSED change to policy document https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-36 the typo in the patch is noted (thanks craig) and (unless there are any objections) a cleaned up version will be applied binding +1's: robert burrell donkin Justin Erenkrantz Yoav Shapira non-binding +1s: Craig L Russell PASSED bill's comments are noted and i'll try to improve the descriptions in future. i'll apply these patches soon so anyone who spots any errors in my count should jump in now... - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incubator project mailing lists.
Folks, Now that we have Roy's scripts for mass move of mailing lists, can/should we move the mailing lists to under incubator.apache.org? (example tuscany-(dev|user) is under ws.apache.org as is solr) thanks, dims -- Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Request to release Tuscany C++ M1
A reminder: We would appreciate folk reviewing and voting on the proposed release. Cheers, On 21/07/06, Pete Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have held a vote on tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org to publish a release of the Tuscany C++ implementation. The vote email thread is available here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg05134.html http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg05134.html+ In summary we have 4 +1 votes from committers and no 0s or -1s. We would like to request approval from the Incubator PMC to release this version. The candidate distribution is available here: http://people.apache.org/~robbinspg/RC-3b/ Thank you. --- Pete -- Pete
[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-30) Remove commented out material from policy document
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-30?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-30. -- Resolution: Fixed VOTE approved - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Committed. Remove commented out material from policy document -- Key: INCUBATOR-30 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-30 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Improvement Components: site Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Assigned To: Robert Burrell Donkin A policy document using RTC should not contain commented out content. This change is not semantically significant. Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(working copy) @@ -13,26 +13,6 @@ link href=http://purl.org/DC/elements/1.0/; rel=schema.DC/ /properties body - !-- TODO: decision making process - section id=How+we+make+decisions+on+our+incubation+policies -titleHow we make decision on our incubation policies -/title -pApache projects usually make releases, and have deliverables. The -code they put in is managed through lazy consensus and voting only -when it's deemed to be required or requested. -/p -pIncubator releases are basically Incubated Projects' release to the -Sponsor PMC. So how incubation is done is our code. -/p -pHence there is no need to ratify such rules if there seems to be -consensus, as it's much easier to manage. -/p -pBecause of this, we do not have the draft status on our policy docs -and simply use them as our guide, that will change in need without -having to go through tedious votes when there is good consensus. -/p - /section - -- section id=TOC titleIncubation Policy: Table of Contents/title -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-31) Change wording to more cleanly separate the roles document from the policy one
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-31?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-31. -- Resolution: Fixed VOTE approved - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Committed. Change wording to more cleanly separate the roles document from the policy one -- Key: INCUBATOR-31 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-31 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Improvement Components: site Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Assigned To: Robert Burrell Donkin Descriptions and definitions are split between two documents: policy and roles. I think it cleaner to move leave just definitions in the policy and link to the appropriate discursive material in roles. Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(working copy) @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ lia href=#Post-Graduation+Check+ListPost-Graduation Check List/a/li /ul /li -lia href=#Roles+in+the+Incubation+ProcessRoles in the Incubation Process/a +lia href=#Roles+in+the+Incubation+ProcessRoles Defined/a ul lia href=#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29Incubator Project Management Committee (PMC)/a/li @@ -826,9 +826,9 @@ /section /section section id=Roles+in+the+Incubation+Process - titleRoles in the Incubation Process + titleRoles Defined /title - pThis section describes the roles involved in the Incubation process. + pDefinitions of the roles involved in the Incubation process. /p section id=Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29 titleIncubator Project Management Committee (PMC) -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-32) Add links from policy into roles and vice verses
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-32?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-32. -- Resolution: Fixed VOTE approved - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Committed. Add links from policy into roles and vice verses Key: INCUBATOR-32 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-32 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Improvement Components: site Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Assigned To: Robert Burrell Donkin Links role - policy for candidate Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(working copy) @@ -877,7 +877,8 @@ section id=Candidate titleCandidate /title -pA project that is proposed for incubation. +pA proposal for incubation. Described in detail +a href='Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Candidate'here/a. /p /section section id=Champion Index: site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (working copy) @@ -86,7 +86,8 @@ section id=Candidate titleCandidate /title -pA Candidate is a project that is proposed for incubation. A Candidate +pA Candidate [a href='Incubation_Policy.html#Candidate'definition/a] is a project proposed for +incubation. A Candidate shall meet the following minimum criteria: /p ul -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-35) Move discursive material about PMC from policy to roles and responsibilities
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-35?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-35. -- Resolution: Fixed Thanks for spotting the unintentional error. Correcting this will not alter the meaning so I've committed the corrected version. VOTE approved - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Committed. Move discursive material about PMC from policy to roles and responsibilities Key: INCUBATOR-35 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-35 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Improvement Components: site Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Assigned To: Robert Burrell Donkin Consolidate discursive material onto roles and responsibilities. Added cross links. Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(working copy) @@ -833,38 +833,14 @@ section id=Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29 titleIncubator Project Management Committee (PMC) /title -p(From the resolution that created the Incubator Project - see -http://incubator.apache.org/resolution.html) +pThe Project Management Committee is responsible to the Board for administering +the Incubator Project in the manner specified in the founding +a href='http://incubator.apache.org/official/resolution.html'resolution/a. /p -pThe Incubator PMC is responsible for : +p +The roles and responsibilities of the PMC are described and discussed +a href='Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29'here/a. /p -ul - liacceptance and oversight of candidate projects submitted or proposed -to become part of the Foundation; -/li - liproviding guidance and ensuring that sub-projects under it's purview -develop products according to the Foundation's philosophy and -guidelines for collaborative development; -/li - liproviding a repository for the storage of incubation history and -information; -/li - liassisting a Podling's Mentor in discharging her/his duties; -/li - liregularly evaluating projects under its purview for the purposes of -recommending to the Sponsor whether the project should: -/li - li style=list-style: none -ul - lisuccessfully exit incubation; -/li - licontinue to receive guidance and support within the Incubator; or -/li - libe terminated. -/li -/ul - /li -/ul /section section id=Chair+of+the+Incubator+PMC titleChair of the Incubator PMC Index: site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (working copy) @@ -23,11 +23,10 @@ section id=Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29 titleIncubator Project Management Committee (PMC) /title -p(From the resolution that created the Incubator Project - see -http://incubator.apache.org/resolution.html) +pThe Incubator PMC +[a href='/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29'definition/a] +is responsible for : /p -pThe Incubator PMC is responsible for : -/p ul liacceptance and oversight of candidate projects submitted or proposed to become part of the Foundation; -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-36) Removed discursive material repeated elsewhere from policy
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-36?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-36. -- Resolution: Fixed Thanks for spotting the typo. Correcting this will not effect the meaning of document and so I've committed with corrected version without a reVOTE. VOTE approved - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Committed. Removed discursive material repeated elsewhere from policy -- Key: INCUBATOR-36 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-36 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Improvement Components: site Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Assigned To: Robert Burrell Donkin This patch remove quite a quantity of discursive material from policy which is already covered in roles. Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml(working copy) @@ -225,23 +225,13 @@ libe nominated for incubation by a member of the Apache Software Foundation (The Champion); and /li - libe approved by a Sponsor. + libe approved by a a href='#Sponsor'Sponsor/a. /li /ul pApproval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the -Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of: +Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. /p -ul - lithe Board of the Apache Software Foundation; -/li - lia Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation -(where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); -or -/li - lithe Incubator PMC. -/li -/ul pTo start this process, a Candidate SHOULD submit a proposal to a Sponsor. The Proposal SHOULD, at minimum, detail the following areas : /p @@ -891,33 +881,23 @@ section id=Sponsor titleSponsor /title -pThe Sponsor is the entity within the ASF that makes the determination -that a candidate would make a worthy addition to the ASF, and agrees -to take on the candidate in question (or in the case of the Incubator -PMC, assist it in finding a home) should it complete the incubation -process. +p +A Sponsor SHALL be either: /p -pA Sponsor will be one of: -/p ul - liThe Board of the Apache Software Foundation. In this case, it is -expected that the candidate would become a TLP on successful -completion of Incubation. + lithe Board of the Apache Software Foundation; /li - liA Top Level Project within the ASF. In this case, the project in -question has agreed that the candidate is a good fit for their -project, and will take on the candidate as a sub-project upon -successful completion of Incubation. + lia Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation +(where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); +or /li - liThe Incubator PMC. In this case, the Incubator PMC agrees that the -project in question will make a good addition to the ASF, but there -is no clear owner of the candidate should it successfully complete -incubation. An incubation exit requirement for such candidates will -be the identification (and successfuly lobbying) of an owner entity -- either the board (and the candidate will be a TLP) or another -project. + lithe Incubator PMC. /li /ul +p +This role and it's responsibilities are discussed +a href='/incubator/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor'here/a. +/p /section section id=Mentor titleMentor Index: site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml === --- site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (revision 423542) +++ site-author/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (working copy) @@ -151,7 +151,8 @@ section id=Sponsor titleSponsor /title -pThe Sponsor is the entity within the ASF that makes the determination +pThe Sponsor [a href='/incubation/Incubator_Policy.html#Sponsor'definition/a] +is the entity within the ASF that makes the determination that a candidate would make a worthy addition to the ASF, and agrees to take on the candidate in question (or in the case of the Incubator PMC, assist it in finding a home) should it complete the incubation -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators:
Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)
Naming of Blaze, Based on all the feedback provided, and after doing a trademark search, there are 14 trademarks( class 9) around blaze, some in the software space and none in this domain. As suggested by someone on this thread I would like to raise the bar and rename the project. We will look for a name that does not have a trademark in the software space. Suggestions welcome, please mail those to me - we will hopefully provide a new name for try out by COB tomorrow. Kind regards Carl. Carl Trieloff wrote: Thank you for all the feedback, would it be possible to post a link to this at least one registered for web software as mentioned by someone in the thread. This would be helpful to me. Kind regards, Carl. Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had read Roys comment to be that there they where not used in software in the related domain. I may have read more into the statement than I I think you misunderstood Roy's comment. Let me re-paste his comment as I think you are confusing what he originally said: In any case, BLAZE is one of the more over-registered trademarks in the USPTO with 329 applications, most of them live and at least one registered for web software. It is not an acceptable name for a podling. So, once again, according to his research, the name Blaze *is* already used in software already. -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Request to release Tuscany C++ M1
On 7/21/06, Pete Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have held a vote on tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org to publish a release of the Tuscany C++ implementation. The vote email thread is available here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg05134.html http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg05134.html+ In summary we have 4 +1 votes from committers and no 0s or -1s. i've never cut C++ releases - and having read about your battles, i'm now glad about that. hopefully some release managers more expert in C++ will jump and take a look... once you've smoothed out the process, it'd be great if you could contribute some patches to the incubator release guide covering C++ specific release issues and tips. We would like to request approval from the Incubator PMC to release this version. The candidate distribution is available here: http://people.apache.org/~robbinspg/RC-3b/ +1 there are a small number of documents that would probably be better with license headers and several blank documents (which i suspect were generated by autoconf) but otherwise no nits i can find. - robert
Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 13:25, Roy T. Fielding wrote: Adding Apache to the name does not change anything, for the same reason that we cannot release Apache Windows. How about using MacroHard Doors ;o) Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
