[RESULT] [VOTE] Glasgow accepted for incubation
The Glasgow proposal vote has passed with: 6 binding +1s, 2 binding 0s, and 2 binding -1s. There were also 5 non-binding +1s and 2 non-binding -1s. It looks as though the committers are reaching consensus in a separate thread on changing the project name, in response to some proper-name concerns. I suggest they hold off on requesting project resources if the currently-proposed name appears to be getting traction; otherwise, just pick anything without a registered software trademark to get the project started and debate the name during incubation. Cliff On 8/10/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The official vote closed three days ago, but I didn't want to close it out while discussions were still going, especially when there were binding -1s involved. While a -1 does not veto a proposal, it is important to make sure that anyone who has a concern has had a chance to make it heard or clarify it. The vote currently stands at: (6) +1s, (1) +/-0, and (2) -1s. With these results, the proposal would be accepted for incubation. However, since there has been quite a bit of discussion during the voting and two standing -1s, I'd like to give one last call for any additional votes or changed votes, and extend the voting period just another 24 hours to Saturday, August 12th 00:00 UTC / Friday, August 11th 17:00 PDT (see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=12&year=2006&hour=00&min=0&sec=0&p1=0). Please submit any last votes now, and I will send out the final results shortly after the new closing time. Also, for those interested in a summary of who voted what so far, see below. Thanks, Cliff Binding +1 Dims, Jason, Jim, JAaron, Susan, Robert Paul stated support for the project and offered to mentor, but did not officially vote. Binding +/-0 Bill Binding -1s: Garrett, Brian Non-binding +1: Matthias, Craig Russell, Coach, Kim, Adi Spec process concerns (without voting): Mads, Leo Name concerns: Danny (non-binding -1), Rich (no vote) On 8/3/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe all open questions about the Glasgow proposal (originally > submitted as "Blaze") have now been addressed enough to call a vote > for accepting the project for incubation. > > Therefore, as the champion of this project, I am calling a vote. As > usual, the binding votes will be those case by Incubator PMC members > (since the project is requesting sponsorship from the Incubator PMC); > however all participants on this list are encouraged to vote if they > have a strong feeling one way or another. > > The traditional 72-hour voting period would end during a weekend for > most timezones; so I propose extending that by an additional day, with > the vote closing on Monday, August 7, 2006 17:00 UTC / 10:00 PDT (see > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=7&year=2006&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=0) > > Please vote on the Glasgow proposal, as described below, which can > also be found at: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GlasgowProposal?action=recall&rev=1. > > Note the old wiki page (with the full history of changes since the > original proposal) can be found here: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Blaze > > Cliff > > > = Glasgow Proposal (renamed from Blaze) = > > == RATIONALE == > Glasgow provides multiple language implementations of the Advanced > Messaged Queuing Protocol (AMQP) specification and related > technologies including PGM, transaction management, queuing, > distribution, security, management and heterogeneous multi-platform > support for messaging (links to these specifications are in the > "Initial Source" section of this proposal.) > Glasgow's overall goal is to create an open and interoperable > implementation for messaging which implements the emerging AMQP > specification, in keeping with the philosophy of the Foundation. This > implementation will provide a messaging solution that will be language > and platform agnostic by using a well defined wire specification. > Providing both libraries for the framing and protocol in addition to > brokers in both Java and C/C++ allows for integration with Apache and > non-Apache projects in a manner that facilitates heterogeneous > deployment with full interoperability for SOA & distributed systems. > The seed code for the project will consist of in-progress C/C++ and > Java implementations of the AMQP specification that we intend to > continue development on in conjunction with other Apache communities. > More information on the scope of the seed code can be found in > subsequent sections of this proposal. > > == CRITERIA == > === Meritocracy: === > The Glasgow committers recognize the desirability and necessity of > running this project as a full meritocracy; indeed, the scope of the > project's technical aspects are so varied that we find it hard to > envision success any other way. One of the most important lessons that > can be derived from the historic evolution of middlewar
Re: REMINDER: AUGUST REPORTS ARE ***DUE***
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Reports are due every month folks. I should not have to constantly nag you > to get them in. Nag? No. Remind -once-? Is that so unreasonable when every other PMC gets an automated reminder? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding projects to report scheduel? [was Re: REMINDER: AUGUST REPORTS ARE ***DUE***]
I just took the liberty of adding CeltiXfire to the Jan/April/July/October schedule. I don't think there is policy for this so I just went and did it :-) Let me know if this wasn't appropriate, but otherwise we will just plan on reporting then. - Dan Noel J. Bergman wrote: The page has been sitting waiting for content: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2006 Reports are due every month folks. I should not have to constantly nag you to get them in. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dan Diephouse (616) 971-2053 Envoi Solutions LLC http://netzooid.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: REMINDER: AUGUST REPORTS ARE ***DUE***
On 11 Aug 06, at 2:07 PM 11 Aug 06, Noel J. Bergman wrote: The page has been sitting waiting for content: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2006 Reports are due every month folks. I should not have to constantly nag you to get them in. How about we hook up to the little notification system used for reminding people to send in board reports? Jason. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
REMINDER: AUGUST REPORTS ARE ***DUE***
The page has been sitting waiting for content: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2006 Reports are due every month folks. I should not have to constantly nag you to get them in. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Glasgow into Incubator
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:32:02PM -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote: > Spec process concerns (without voting): > Mads, Leo Let the record show the concerns are more broad than about a "spec process". But, as my later rant hints at, I don't see a real reason to cause any more stir about any of this *now*; rather it is something we should "soulsearch" more. In the meantime I do wish glasgow or whatever it will be called all the best. If you want a vote from me you could record it as -/+0. LSD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glasgow - new name proposal
I also agree, +1 for option a. On 8/11/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, agree. Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi Carl, > > Qpid when referring to the project in normal sentences, as in "I like > this new Qpid project". > > qpid for directory names, mailing lists, build artifacts, etc. > > For me, CamelCaseMakesMyHeadSpin. > > Craig > > On Aug 11, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > >> >> I think we have a new name, we need to come to agreement >> on how to do the CaPs. >> >> a.) Qpid >> b.) QPid >> c.) QPID >> >> I like a, then c. >> >> Carl. >> >> >> sophitia que wrote: >>> I am +1 on the name. >>> >>> On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Craig Russell > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo > 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glasgow - new name proposal
yes, agree. Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Carl, Qpid when referring to the project in normal sentences, as in "I like this new Qpid project". qpid for directory names, mailing lists, build artifacts, etc. For me, CamelCaseMakesMyHeadSpin. Craig On Aug 11, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: I think we have a new name, we need to come to agreement on how to do the CaPs. a.) Qpid b.) QPid c.) QPID I like a, then c. Carl. sophitia que wrote: I am +1 on the name. On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glasgow - new name proposal
Hi Carl, Qpid when referring to the project in normal sentences, as in "I like this new Qpid project". qpid for directory names, mailing lists, build artifacts, etc. For me, CamelCaseMakesMyHeadSpin. Craig On Aug 11, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: I think we have a new name, we need to come to agreement on how to do the CaPs. a.) Qpid b.) QPid c.) QPID I like a, then c. Carl. sophitia que wrote: I am +1 on the name. On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/ products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Glasgow - new name proposal
+1 for a. Bryan Carl Trieloff wrote: I think we have a new name, we need to come to agreement on how to do the CaPs. a.) Qpid b.) QPid c.) QPID I like a, then c. Carl. sophitia que wrote: I am +1 on the name. On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glasgow - new name proposal
+1 Complicated CaPs just ask to be misspelled. Carl Trieloff wrote: I think we have a new name, we need to come to agreement on how to do the CaPs. a.) Qpid b.) QPid c.) QPID I like a, then c. Carl. sophitia que wrote: I am +1 on the name. On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glasgow - new name proposal
I think we have a new name, we need to come to agreement on how to do the CaPs. a.) Qpid b.) QPid c.) QPID I like a, then c. Carl. sophitia que wrote: I am +1 on the name. On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Glasgow into Incubator
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:32:02PM -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote: > Spec process concerns (without voting): > Mads, Leo > Mine would be a -1 if I was on the incubator PMC (but no thanks, I'd rather not). I don't find the excuse that a mistake has been made in the past sufficient to repeat it. I'm also far from convinced that we should use the ASF name to promote this specific spec - I'd much rather give them a while longer to prove that it is the right choice. But, not my call - and kind of useless to object anyway because they seem to have aquired plenty of support already. vh Mads Toftum -- `Darn it, who spiked my coffee with water?!' - lwall - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Wicket again (was Re: incubation process for open development open source projects)
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 08:54:09AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On 8/11/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >...I think recent discussion has shown quite clearly that there is quite a > >bit > >of disagreement on various aspects of incubation relevant to (among > >others) the > >wicket community... > > Just to make sure this is not misinterpreted: I think Leo means > "relevant to the *case* of the Wicket community". Erm, yeah, sorry. That one. Its not about wicket, its about the whole incubation deal in general, and how it applies (or doesn't apply, or should apply, or whatever) to wicket and others. LSD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
