[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-85) Request Mailing lists from INFRA

2008-10-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)

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Niclas Hedhman commented on INCUBATOR-85:
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I agree that the initial moderators should be the Mentors. They should 
bootstrap the PPMC, like happened in Harmony. Add me, Doug and Yonik as well, 
please. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-83
  

> Request Mailing lists from INFRA
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> Key: INCUBATOR-85
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-85
> Project: Incubator
>  Issue Type: Sub-task
>Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
>Assignee: Doug Cutting
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RE: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-05 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 12:31 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
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> We don't have to.  We can simply mandate that every ASF project sign their
> artifacts and charge the Maven PMC with enforcing it.

No. The Maven PMC is charged with developing software for the Apache
Maven project. If we really want to put a distribution policy in place
and enforce it, I can see us creating a repository PMC which does this
(and talk to Maven about the features that they would like to see or
(gasp!) implement them and contribute them back to Maven. I would see
such a PMC as part of or collaborating with Infrastructure. 

Maven is a piece of software, not a distribution mechanism. They just
happen to build it because no one else did.

> And perhaps now you start to gain a glimer of the depth of the problem
> created by Maven's irresponsible, unconscionable, lackadaisical, attitude
> towards security, despite other repository exemplars (e.g., linux
> distributions), having had security in place for years.  Yes, it may be a

Please stop it, Noel. This is not constructive. 

Ciao
Henning




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Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:45 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Color me confused again, but during setup and formation of the Incubator,
>> a podling had to graduate before doing a release.  It was rather well
>> established before this rule was modified, but it seems that this change
>> resulted in a number of different interpretations, some of which aren't
>> compatible with the ASF license.
> 
> I will support the "initial intent" of no releases out of Incubator.

Which would work, except for the fact that the incubator decided it's a good
idea to have podlings demonstrate how releases work in a meritocracy.  Sure
they've grokked vetoes over code, but the majority-vote release schema is
nearly at odds with that.  It's good that they demonstrate the entire cycle
of envisioning ... creating ... collecting ... releasing code as a community.

So this is a better schema.  Drop any pretense that the incubator has a say
over the already-done code releases, and we can seriously start the real
discussion, which would have been "motivating projects to graduate" if we
hadn't wasted several hundred posts on a silly topic.


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Re: [Vote] accept Droids into incubation

2008-10-05 Thread Luciano Resende
+1 (non-binding)

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
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>> Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.
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>> The proposal can be found at:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal
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> +1
>
> Ross
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Re: [Vote] accept Droids into incubation

2008-10-05 Thread Ross Gardler

Thorsten Scherler wrote:

Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.

The proposal can be found at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal



+1

Ross

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Re: [Vote] accept Droids into incubation

2008-10-05 Thread Samisa Abeysinghe

+1.

Samisa...

Paul Fremantle wrote:

+1

Paul

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.
  

+1

Cheers
Niclas Hedhman

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