Re: Continuous Build environment?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote: I've never tried hooking up agents to more then one master, but if that works sure. Oh, that was not really my question. I was wondering if we could install separate agents that would be controlled by the Apache Hudson? /niklas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: log4php status?
Noel, I had forgotten to submit anything... basically, time got away from me. log4php is slow... very slow. It is being used, but only occasionally do we get bug reports, which are handled pretty quickly however. On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: What is the status? See the Board report for what I culled from the mailing list and SVN, but we've not received a report from the project. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Cassandra Incubator Proposal
ok.. so we have 4 mentors..time for a vote.. Avinash.. do u want to do the honors? Noel J. Bergman wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: The Champion can be expected to be a Mentor (see below, though). No extra uber anything. No greater (or lessor) of equals. http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Mentor From that document (redacted for clarity): Champion: A Member of the Apache Software Foundation who supports a Candidate's application for Incubation and who supports and assists the Podling through the Incubation process. Mentor: A Podling has one or more Mentors, one of which MUST be an Apache Member. Mentors [actively monitor] the podling, guide the podling in the Apache Way, and report its [status.] All Mentors must be members of the Incubator PMC. Difference? And note that if the Champion were not an Incubator PMC member, there would not be a binding vote. So what's the exact difference between champion and mentor then? Champion is someone who helps them get accepted. After that, everything expected of the Champion applies to the Mentors. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Continuous Build environment?
On 17-Dec-08, at 6:26 AM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com wrote: I've never tried hooking up agents to more then one master, but if that works sure. Oh, that was not really my question. I was wondering if we could install separate agents that would be controlled by the Apache Hudson? Hudson is pretty light weight so we could try that too. /niklas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven jason at sonatype dot com -- We all have problems. How we deal with them is a measure of our worth. -- Unknown - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Hi, I would like to introduce my Apache Scrum proposal. Abstract Apache Scrum is a complete environment manager and deployer including JEE applications and resources. It's a perfect complement to continuous integration by adding continuous deployment. The whole software factory chain is cover and the JEE administrator managed all environments is a secure and safe way, whatever the underlying application server is. Proposal Apache Scrum provides two components : - Apache Scrum agent are installed localy on the application server server - Apache Scrum console controls and manages agents, allowing the JEE administrator to update all environments from a central web tool. Background Currently, Apache Scrum is named BuildProcess AutoDeploy (http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net). The development has begun 4 years ago and several release have been already provided. AutoDeploy is used in several companies like Fimasys (http://www.fimasys.com), Vodacom South Africa (http://www.vodacom.com), Mayo Clinic USA (http://www.mayocinic.com), etc. Rationale The JEE environments administration is heavy cost task with a high level on human action. It suffers : - a different set of script or actions dependning of the application server used (JBoss, Websphere, Weblogic, etc) - a high level of risk due to human action (for exemple, an administrator can forget to deploy a JDBC datasource, or forget to change an application specific configuration file) - the upgrade process can be long (depending of the applications complexity) - most of resources are stored localy to the application server, not in a central repository Apache Scrum securise the environment deployment and cover the whole JEE scope (EAR/WAR archives, JDBC datasources, JMS queues, JMS topics, classloader policy, etc) in a uniq way whatever the underlying application server (it heavely uses JMX to interact with compatible middlewares). Initial Goals When I have begun AutoDeploy, my first goal was to provide several application server JMX plugins. But quickly, I have seen that multi-application servers support was only a small part of the JEE administration need. That's why I have extended AutoDeploy to provide agents and a central console. Using the console, several JEE administrators can use a central tools to manage all environments in a collaborative and secure way. Current Status Currently, AutoDeploy provides two branches : - the 0.5.x branch (with the 0.5.4 lastest release) is the current stable branche - the 0.6.x branch is target to become Apache Scrum Community Currently the project contains two contributors and around 50 users. Thanks to the popularity of ASF, the purpose is increase the number of contributors to improve the functionnality cover of Apache Scrum. Core Developers AutoDeploy/Apache Scrum was founded by Jean-Baptiste Onofré in 2004. Mike Duffy, Vodacom JEE architect, contributes since 2005. Several contributors have provided patches on the project. Open Source Since the beginning, AutoDeploy was a Open Source project using GPL license. Apache Scrum will use the Apache 2 license. Relationships with Other Apache Products AutoDeploy/Apache Scrum heavely uses Apache products such as : - lot of jakarta commons (espcailly VFS) - maven/continuum for build/continuous integration - xerces/xalan for XML manipulation - etc ... I hope that Apache Scrum provide a kind of interest to you :) and really hope that the ASF approve this project. I think that the core product is efficient due to the number of users on the current stable version. Joining ASF will increase the visibility of Scrum and increase the number of contributors, for sure. If you have need more informations, or if you have some questions, don't hesitate to contact me. Thanks in advance :) Regards JB [1] BuildProcess AutoDeploy (Apache Scrum) : http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax) BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net j...@nanthrax.net PGP : 17D4F086 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: I would like to introduce my Apache Scrum proposal. I like the project itself but I think the name is confusing. There's a development methodology by the same name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)) and many people in the same audience would be confused. I would suggest another name. Yoav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Hi Yoav, That's right. Currently the project is named AutoDeploy which is a little bit confusing too. Apache Scrum is just a name proposition, I'm open to all other name :) Thanks, Regards On Wednesday 17 December 2008 - 16:04, Yoav Shapira wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: I would like to introduce my Apache Scrum proposal. I like the project itself but I think the name is confusing. There's a development methodology by the same name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)) and many people in the same audience would be confused. I would suggest another name. Yoav -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax) BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net j...@nanthrax.net PGP : 17D4F086 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Currently the project is named AutoDeploy which is a little bit confusing too. Apache Scrum is just a name proposition, I'm open to all other name :) Pizzazz RoboDeployer Dunnilator Just some suggestions ;) Yoav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
As with Yoav, I am in favor of this project. It resonates with what I do for a living. Also as with Yoav, I'd suggest a different name. And I am personally hoping that more names with be at least marginally reflective of what the project does. I would ask that you take a look at Lokahi (http://incubator.apache.org/lokahi/). And we should engage projects like Tomcat, Geronimo, Ode, Tuscany, et al, with the goal of being able to centrally install, manage and deploy with as many of them as possible. Do you use ssh to jumpstart, e.g., to install the agent remotely? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Currently the project is named AutoDeploy which is a little bit confusing too. Apache Scrum is just a name proposition, I'm open to all other name :) How about DeployX :) I tried checking from nameprotect.com, but I couldnt. 2008/12/18 Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com As with Yoav, I am in favor of this project. It resonates with what I do for a living. Also as with Yoav, I'd suggest a different name. And I am personally hoping that more names with be at least marginally reflective of what the project does. I would ask that you take a look at Lokahi (http://incubator.apache.org/lokahi/). And we should engage projects like Tomcat, Geronimo, Ode, Tuscany, et al, with the goal of being able to centrally install, manage and deploy with as many of them as possible. Do you use ssh to jumpstart, e.g., to install the agent remotely? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Open Source Since the beginning, AutoDeploy was a Open Source project using GPL license. Apache Scrum will use the Apache 2 license. Assuming that you don't do the paperwork needed for Copyright Assignments... Do you realize that you will need the approval of every contributor in the past to change license, or to remove those contributions? Is that feasible? Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Hi Noel, the agent can be installed by hand or remotly from the console using pure java (like a webstart). Currently AutoDeploy is used (in production) on : - Linux - Solaris - AIX - Windows As it's in pure Java, only a JVM is required. Thanks for the interest in the project, Regards On Wednesday 17 December 2008 - 17:28, Noel J. Bergman wrote: As with Yoav, I am in favor of this project. It resonates with what I do for a living. Also as with Yoav, I'd suggest a different name. And I am personally hoping that more names with be at least marginally reflective of what the project does. I would ask that you take a look at Lokahi (http://incubator.apache.org/lokahi/). And we should engage projects like Tomcat, Geronimo, Ode, Tuscany, et al, with the goal of being able to centrally install, manage and deploy with as many of them as possible. Do you use ssh to jumpstart, e.g., to install the agent remotely? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax) BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net j...@nanthrax.net PGP : 17D4F086 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Yes, small contributors have given the approval to go to Apache 2 license. Concerning the main contributors, Mike and myself, we really want to participate on the ASF, so yes, there is no problem to use the Apache 2 license :) Thanks, Regards On Thursday 18 December 2008 - 11:43, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Open Source Since the beginning, AutoDeploy was a Open Source project using GPL license. Apache Scrum will use the Apache 2 license. Assuming that you don't do the paperwork needed for Copyright Assignments... Do you realize that you will need the approval of every contributor in the past to change license, or to remove those contributions? Is that feasible? Cheers Niclas -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax) BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net j...@nanthrax.net PGP : 17D4F086 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum
Pizzazz (Yoav's proposition) and DeployX looks nice :) What do you think of Apache Prop ? Regards JB On Thursday 18 December 2008 - 01:11, Ali Ok wrote: Currently the project is named AutoDeploy which is a little bit confusing too. Apache Scrum is just a name proposition, I'm open to all other name :) How about DeployX :) I tried checking from nameprotect.com, but I couldnt. 2008/12/18 Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com As with Yoav, I am in favor of this project. It resonates with what I do for a living. Also as with Yoav, I'd suggest a different name. And I am personally hoping that more names with be at least marginally reflective of what the project does. I would ask that you take a look at Lokahi (http://incubator.apache.org/lokahi/). And we should engage projects like Tomcat, Geronimo, Ode, Tuscany, et al, with the goal of being able to centrally install, manage and deploy with as many of them as possible. Do you use ssh to jumpstart, e.g., to install the agent remotely? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax) BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net j...@nanthrax.net PGP : 17D4F086 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
