Java package names

2010-10-12 Thread Benson Margulies
River imported packages of code from the original Sun grant under the
name 'com.sun.whatever'.

How important is it to change that?

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Re: Java package names

2010-10-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
if you care to be able to run on a different JVM, than it needs to be fixed.

Generally it's bad to rely on some private packages/APIs

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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
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[VOTE] Publish Apache Incubator Etch 1.1

2010-10-12 Thread Holger Grandy
Hello,

the Etch community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache Etch 
1.1.
A vote on the etch-dev@ list already resulted in three +1 from Incubator PMC 
members:
- Doug Cutting
- Martijn Dashorst
- Gavin McDonald

The proposal for the release was:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-etch-dev/201010.mbox/raw/%3c66bd268f973e3544a665e5f503fb38b7057e4d4...@dc01.bmw-carit.intra%3e/

The [VOTE RESULT] is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-etch-dev/201010.mbox/raw/%3c66bd268f973e3544a665e5f503fb38b70583c7a...@dc01.bmw-carit.intra%3e/

The whole thread is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-etch-dev/201010.mbox/browser

We would like to request the acknowledge of the Incubator PMC for our
release packages, which are currently available at
http://people.apache.org/~grandyho/apache-etch-1.1.0-incubating/

This vote will stay open for 72 hours.

Thanks,
Holger

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Re: Java package names

2010-10-12 Thread Gregg Wonderly
From a name and branding perspective, removing the use of com.sun, could help 
people focus on River as opposed to Sun's Jini Implementation.  I have 
several references to com.sun.jini.start.  But, I also have my own fork of 2.1 
that I'm still using in active deployments.  River should be River.


Gregg Wonderly

On 10/12/2010 12:21 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

What Benson is talking about is not com.sun packages in the JDK, but
that Jini implementation classes resides in com.sun packages (compared
to spec classes residing in net.jini space)

They should go as part of a suitable level bump in versioning. The
impact on users is reasonably small...

Niclas

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorfmat...@apache.org  wrote:

if you care to be able to run on a different JVM, than it needs to be fixed.

Generally it's bad to rely on some private packages/APIs

-M

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com  wrote:

River imported packages of code from the original Sun grant under the
name 'com.sun.whatever'.

How important is it to change that?

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Re: Java package names

2010-10-12 Thread Benson Margulies
From the mentor standpoint, what's important to me is that there is no
ASF requirement to change those packages. The community can decide to
do it sooner, later, or not at all. The community can decide to make a
slew of compatibility wrappers. The community, most importantly, can
push toward a release with whatever naming it can reach a consensus
on.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Christopher Dolan
christopher.do...@avid.com wrote:
 I vote against such an incompatible change.  There are a lot of classes under 
 there, for example com.sun.jini.thread.TaskManager, that are utility code 
 employed by downstream developers.  I think all new code should go elsewhere 
 if possible, but changing the existing com.sun.jini packages would be hard on 
 existing users.

 Chris


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 Subject: Java package names

 River imported packages of code from the original Sun grant under the
 name 'com.sun.whatever'.

 How important is it to change that?


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RE: Java package names

2010-10-12 Thread Christopher Dolan
I vote against such an incompatible change.  There are a lot of classes under 
there, for example com.sun.jini.thread.TaskManager, that are utility code 
employed by downstream developers.  I think all new code should go elsewhere if 
possible, but changing the existing com.sun.jini packages would be hard on 
existing users.

Chris


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From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:51 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org; river-...@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Java package names

River imported packages of code from the original Sun grant under the
name 'com.sun.whatever'.

How important is it to change that?