Fwd: board: r25270 - /foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Stein
Hey all,

I've added the resolution for the Thrift graduation to the Board's
agenda (for the meeting on Wednesday).

Brian: I've made some edits from your initial resolution to align it
with our standard template. (mostly minor stuff, but added one para
about bylaws/particiption). Where did you copy your original from
before search/replace? I'd like to fix that source material.

I note that Upayavira has been added. This is good; as Joe noted,
having one or more Members on the PMC is a Good Thing. I would offer,
too, but my contribution level ended up to be much less than I
expected. My original interest was to bring Thrift into Subversion.
That project got back-burnered a long while ago as we narrowed our
features to get 1.7 out in any kind of timely fashion :-P  So, I'll
continue to subscribe to private@ and dev@ as a helpful Member, but
I don't think it would be right to ask for a voting spot on the PMC.

Cheers,
-g

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Author: gstein
Date: Tue Oct 19 07:40:06 2010
New Revision: 25270

Log:
Paste in the resolution to create the Thrift PMC. The resolution is taken
from gene...@incubator, with edits to bring the format in line with
standard graduation resolutions.

Modified:
   foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

Modified: foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt
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--- foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt [utf-8] (original)
+++ foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt [utf-8] Tue Oct 19
07:40:06 2010
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 7. Special Orders

+    A. Establish the Apache Thrift Project
+
+       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
+       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
+       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
+       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
+       open-source software related to cross-language RPC and
+       serialization, for distribution at no charge to the public.
+
+       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
+       Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Thrift Project, be
+       and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation;
+       and be it further
+
+       RESOLVED, that the Apache Thrift Project be and hereby is
+       responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
+       project related to cross-language RPC and serialization; and be
+       it further
+
+       RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Thrift be
+       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
+       at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
+       Apache Thrift Project, and to have primary responsibility for
+       management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
+       of the Apache Thrift Project; and be it further
+
+       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
+       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
+       Apache Thrift Project:
+
+         * Bryan Duxbury (br...@rapleaf.com)
+         * David Reiss (dre...@facebook.com)
+         * Mark Slee (ms...@facebook.com)
+         * Jake Luciani (jak...@gmail.com)
+         * Todd Lipcon (t...@cloudera.com)
+         * Anthony Molinaro (antho...@alumni.caltech.edu)
+         * Esteve Fernandez (est...@sindominio.net)
+         * Ben Maurer (ben.mau...@gmail.com)
+         * Upayavira (u...@odoko.co.uk)
+
+       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Bryan Duxbury be
+       and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
+       Thrift, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
+       direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
+       Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
+       disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
+       further
+
+       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Thrift Project be and hereby
+       is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
+       encourage open development and increased participation in the
+       Apache Thrift Project; and be it further
+
+       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Thrift Project be and hereby
+       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
+       Incubator Thrift podling; and be it further
+
+       RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
+       Incubator Thrift podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
+       PMC are hereafter discharged.
+
+
 8. Discussion Items

 9. Review Outstanding Action Items

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Bylaws paragraph in TLP resolutions

2010-10-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 added one para about bylaws/particiption). Where did you copy your original 
 from
 before search/replace? I'd like to fix that source material.

AFAIK, the bylaws paragraph was scrapped from the template because it
was deemed no longer necessary.

Some googling turned up this:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg11758.html
* http://s.apache.org/bylaws_tlp_resolution (board@ discussion)

Martijn

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Re: Bylaws paragraph in TLP resolutions

2010-10-19 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 04:20, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 added one para about bylaws/particiption). Where did you copy your original 
 from
 before search/replace? I'd like to fix that source material.

 AFAIK, the bylaws paragraph was scrapped from the template because it
 was deemed no longer necessary.

As recently as June, we included that paragraph in our resolution.

 Some googling turned up this:
 * http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg11758.html
 * http://s.apache.org/bylaws_tlp_resolution (board@ discussion)

I agree/think that per-project bylaws is a Bad Idea (and I'd prefer
uniformity), but the Board has made no specific statement about that.
Thus, projects still need to define their rules of operation.

Until the Board decides to enforce some kind of standard/single set of
bylaws/procedures across all PMCs, I think that paragraph should
remain in the template.

Cheers,
-g

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Re: board: r25270 - /foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Bryan Duxbury
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 I've added the resolution for the Thrift graduation to the Board's
 agenda (for the meeting on Wednesday).

 Brian: I've made some edits from your initial resolution to align it
 with our standard template. (mostly minor stuff, but added one para
 about bylaws/particiption). Where did you copy your original from
 before search/replace? I'd like to fix that source material.


Thanks for the updates! I copied that resolution from the email for Apache
Shiro's graduation, so I'm not sure there's something to clean up.



 I note that Upayavira has been added. This is good; as Joe noted,
 having one or more Members on the PMC is a Good Thing. I would offer,
 too, but my contribution level ended up to be much less than I
 expected. My original interest was to bring Thrift into Subversion.
 That project got back-burnered a long while ago as we narrowed our
 features to get 1.7 out in any kind of timely fashion :-P  So, I'll
 continue to subscribe to private@ and dev@ as a helpful Member, but
 I don't think it would be right to ask for a voting spot on the PMC.


I appreciate this. See you around!



 Cheers,
 -g

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 From:  gst...@apache.org
 Date: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 03:40
 Subject: board: r25270 - /foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt


 Author: gstein
 Date: Tue Oct 19 07:40:06 2010
 New Revision: 25270

 Log:
 Paste in the resolution to create the Thrift PMC. The resolution is taken
 from gene...@incubator, with edits to bring the format in line with
 standard graduation resolutions.

 Modified:
foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

 Modified: foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

 ==
 --- foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt [utf-8] (original)
 +++ foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt [utf-8] Tue Oct 19
 07:40:06 2010
 @@ -567,6 +567,68 @@

  7. Special Orders

 +A. Establish the Apache Thrift Project
 +
 +   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 +   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 +   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 +   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 +   open-source software related to cross-language RPC and
 +   serialization, for distribution at no charge to the public.
 +
 +   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 +   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Thrift Project, be
 +   and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation;
 +   and be it further
 +
 +   RESOLVED, that the Apache Thrift Project be and hereby is
 +   responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
 +   project related to cross-language RPC and serialization; and be
 +   it further
 +
 +   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Thrift be
 +   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
 +   at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
 +   Apache Thrift Project, and to have primary responsibility for
 +   management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
 +   of the Apache Thrift Project; and be it further
 +
 +   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 +   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 +   Apache Thrift Project:
 +
 + * Bryan Duxbury (br...@rapleaf.com)
 + * David Reiss (dre...@facebook.com)
 + * Mark Slee (ms...@facebook.com)
 + * Jake Luciani (jak...@gmail.com)
 + * Todd Lipcon (t...@cloudera.com)
 + * Anthony Molinaro (antho...@alumni.caltech.edu)
 + * Esteve Fernandez (est...@sindominio.net)
 + * Ben Maurer (ben.mau...@gmail.com)
 + * Upayavira (u...@odoko.co.uk)
 +
 +   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Bryan Duxbury be
 +   and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
 +   Thrift, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
 +   direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 +   Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
 +   disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
 +   further
 +
 +   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Thrift Project be and hereby
 +   is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 +   encourage open development and increased participation in the
 +   Apache Thrift Project; and be it further
 +
 +   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Thrift Project be and hereby
 +   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 +   Incubator Thrift podling; and be it further
 +
 +   RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
 +   Incubator Thrift podling encumbered upon the Apache 

Re: Ready to Graduate?

2010-10-19 Thread Janne Jalkanen

JSPWiki has lost a massive amount of steam in the last year or so due to 
committers lives interfering with contributions. No known cure exists for life, 
unfortunately.

Simply put, I don't think anyone has the capacity right now to do the 
graduation.  I do not know whether the situation will change. We have discussed 
this among ourselves, but have no real conclusions.

Code-wise the only real showstopper is actually making a release. There's still 
some trickle of contributions coming in, but they're mostly only for the 
non-Apache releases we did a long time ago.

Advice useful.

/Janne

On Oct 18, 2010, at 22:12 , Noel J. Bergman wrote:

 Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation.  Why,
 for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly?  What about Ace?
 Others?
 
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Re: board: r25270 - /foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Les Hazlewood
Hi Greg,

For Shiro, we copied a referenced charter from the Incubator site listed here:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution

That section references a template and 3 projects from the 2006 Board
minutes.  I don't remember the template link being there at the time
(maybe it was and I just missed it), so I think we used the OFBiz
referenced charter as our template.  I can't be sure if it was that,
the Cayenne charter, or the actual template.  But at least you know
the potential 3 sources!

In retrospect, a minor recommendation I'd have for the Incubator is
that section is cleaned up to make the desired template very prominent
and not listed as in-line text in a paragraph, and instead make the 3
example charters in-line text.  People's eyes are naturally drawn to
bulleted lists and will place more 'weight' on them than inline text.
Also, those 3 examples are stated as good examples, so I inferred
that the the Incubator implicitly approved them to be used as
potential seeds for other projects (right or wrong as that may have
been).  My .02...

Cheers,

Les

P.S. Congrats to Thrift!

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Bryan Duxbury br...@rapleaf.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 I've added the resolution for the Thrift graduation to the Board's
 agenda (for the meeting on Wednesday).

 Brian: I've made some edits from your initial resolution to align it
 with our standard template. (mostly minor stuff, but added one para
 about bylaws/particiption). Where did you copy your original from
 before search/replace? I'd like to fix that source material.


 Thanks for the updates! I copied that resolution from the email for Apache
 Shiro's graduation, so I'm not sure there's something to clean up.



 I note that Upayavira has been added. This is good; as Joe noted,
 having one or more Members on the PMC is a Good Thing. I would offer,
 too, but my contribution level ended up to be much less than I
 expected. My original interest was to bring Thrift into Subversion.
 That project got back-burnered a long while ago as we narrowed our
 features to get 1.7 out in any kind of timely fashion :-P  So, I'll
 continue to subscribe to private@ and dev@ as a helpful Member, but
 I don't think it would be right to ask for a voting spot on the PMC.


 I appreciate this. See you around!



 Cheers,
 -g

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 From:  gst...@apache.org
 Date: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 03:40
 Subject: board: r25270 - /foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt


 Author: gstein
 Date: Tue Oct 19 07:40:06 2010
 New Revision: 25270

 Log:
 Paste in the resolution to create the Thrift PMC. The resolution is taken
 from gene...@incubator, with edits to bring the format in line with
 standard graduation resolutions.

 Modified:
    foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

 Modified: foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt

 ==
 --- foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt [utf-8] (original)
 +++ foundation/board/board_agenda_2010_10_20.txt [utf-8] Tue Oct 19
 07:40:06 2010
 @@ -567,6 +567,68 @@

  7. Special Orders

 +    A. Establish the Apache Thrift Project
 +
 +       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 +       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 +       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 +       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 +       open-source software related to cross-language RPC and
 +       serialization, for distribution at no charge to the public.
 +
 +       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 +       Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Thrift Project, be
 +       and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation;
 +       and be it further
 +
 +       RESOLVED, that the Apache Thrift Project be and hereby is
 +       responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
 +       project related to cross-language RPC and serialization; and be
 +       it further
 +
 +       RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Thrift be
 +       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
 +       at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
 +       Apache Thrift Project, and to have primary responsibility for
 +       management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
 +       of the Apache Thrift Project; and be it further
 +
 +       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 +       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 +       Apache Thrift Project:
 +
 +         * Bryan Duxbury (br...@rapleaf.com)
 +         * David Reiss (dre...@facebook.com)
 +         * Mark Slee (ms...@facebook.com)
 +         * Jake Luciani (jak...@gmail.com)
 +         * Todd Lipcon (t...@cloudera.com)
 +         * Anthony Molinaro 

Fwd: [VOTE] Apache OODT 0.1-incubating release

2010-10-19 Thread David M Woollard
Apologies for cross-posting. 

Please see below for the Apache OODT 0.1-incubating vote currently being held 
on the oodt-dev list.  I'd like to call a VOTE.

[ ] +1 Release the packages as Apache OODT 0.1-incubating
[ ] -1 Do not release the packages because...

Thanks!

Dave Woollard



Begin forwarded message:

 From: David M Woollard wooll...@jpl.nasa.gov
 Date: October 19, 2010 5:07:13 PM PDT
 To: oodt-...@incubator.apache.org oodt-...@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] Apache OODT 0.1-incubating release
 Reply-To: oodt-...@incubator.apache.org oodt-...@incubator.apache.org
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I am proud to announce the first candidate for the Apache OODT 0.1-incubating 
 release. The source code is at:
 
 http://people.apache.org/~woollard/apache-oodt-0.1-incubating/rc1/
 
 For more detailed information, see the included CHANGES.txt file for details 
 on
 release contents and latest changes. The release was made using the OODT 
 release process, documented on the Wiki here:
 
 http://s.apache.org/05
 
 The release was made from the OODT 0.1-incubating branch (r1024310) at:
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/oodt/branches/0.1-incubating
 
 Please vote on releasing these packages as Apache OODT 0.1-incubating. The 
 vote is
 open for the next 72 hours.
 
 Only votes from Incubator PMC are binding, but folks are welcome to check the
 release candidate and voice their approval or disapproval. The vote passes
 if at least three binding +1 votes are cast.
 
 [ ] +1 Release the packages as Apache OODT version
 
 [ ] -1 Do not release the packages because...
 
 Thanks!
 
 Dave Woollard
 
 P.S. Here is my +1.