Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

[Craig L Russell]

Hi Mohammad Nour El-Din,

On Nov 17, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:


Hi Craig...

  I think this is not a formal vote,


no disagreement


it is like an acceptance vote


no disagreement


before going into the formality of a real vote,


and before we go into a real vote we need to have something to really  
vote on...



so the voting thread
is not full of a lot of *dicussion* e-mails which can drift the voting
thread away from its purpose :).


And I promise to "drift" into a discussion of why there's no concrete  
process proposal if a VOTE is called without the specific process...


Craig



On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Craig L Russell
 wrote:
Assuming that no one comes forward with a significant reason to  
disallow
this, I'd just request that you not call a VOTE until you have an  
update to

the incubator page that describes the process.

In other words, let's DISCUSS and then VOTE on the change to the  
process

page.

Craig

On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:20 AM, ant elder wrote:


I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC  
vote.


As justification, this is the process that was in place some years  
ago

and it worked fine like that, there is the "experiment" currently in
place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok,  
and

the board has said they're ok with it.

 ...ant

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Andreas Kuckartz]

+1 (non-binding)

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Am 17.11.2010 14:10, schrieb Ross Gardler:
> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator.
> The proposal can be found at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied below.
>
> [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
> [ ] +0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.


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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

[Mohammad Nour El-Din]

Hi Craig...

   I think this is not a formal vote, it is like an acceptance vote
before going into the formality of a real vote, so the voting thread
is not full of a lot of *dicussion* e-mails which can drift the voting
thread away from its purpose :).

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Craig L Russell
 wrote:
> Assuming that no one comes forward with a significant reason to disallow
> this, I'd just request that you not call a VOTE until you have an update to
> the incubator page that describes the process.
>
> In other words, let's DISCUSS and then VOTE on the change to the process
> page.
>
> Craig
>
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:20 AM, ant elder wrote:
>
>> I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
>> someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
>> votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
>> for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.
>>
>> As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
>> and it worked fine like that, there is the "experiment" currently in
>> place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
>> the board has said they're ok with it.
>>
>>  ...ant
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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

[Craig L Russell]

Assuming that no one comes forward with a significant reason to  
disallow this, I'd just request that you not call a VOTE until you  
have an update to the incubator page that describes the process.


In other words, let's DISCUSS and then VOTE on the change to the  
process page.


Craig

On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:20 AM, ant elder wrote:


I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.

As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
and it worked fine like that, there is the "experiment" currently in
place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
the board has said they're ok with it.

  ...ant

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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

[David Jencks]

+1 (with the one required mentor/IPMC vote and notifying private@)

david jencks

On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Glen Daniels wrote:

> +1 from me.
> 
> I also agree with Bertrand's point about notifying private@, and would be OK
> with requiring a (single) mentor/IPMC vote to ensure that someone is paying
> attention... but it would be nice if we didn't need two.
> 
> --Glen
> 
> On 11/12/2010 3:20 AM, ant elder wrote:
>> I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
>> someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
>> votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
>> for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.
>> 
>> As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
>> and it worked fine like that, there is the "experiment" currently in
>> place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
>> the board has said they're ok with it.
>> 
>>   ...ant
>> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

[Mohammad Nour El-Din]

+1 @ Benson, so if that only one vote is not there, the vote is not accepted.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Benson Margulies
 wrote:
> +1 to the proposal.
>
>> What makes me uneasy about this is that, notwithstanding the one
>> mentor vote, we are basically saying that the bar for ASF
>> committership can now be defined solely by a group of people who might
>> have no knowledge, as yet, of "the Apache way" in general and the way
>> meritocracy works in particular.
>>
>
> I disagree. The essential ingredient is the requirement for mentor
> participation.
>
> It's the mentor's job to pay attention and see if the project is on
> the right track.
>
>> --
>> Martin Cooper
>>
>>
>>> As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
>>> and it worked fine like that, there is the "experiment" currently in
>>> place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
>>> the board has said they're ok with it.
>>>
>>>   ...ant
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Mohammad Nour El-Din]

+1 (non-binding)

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, ant elder  wrote:
> +1
>
>   ...ant
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Gardler  wrote:
>> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can
>> be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied
>> below.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
>> [ ] +0 Don't care
>> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>>
>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ross
>>
>> = Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
>> == Abstract ==
>> Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.
>>
>> == Proposal ==
>> Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key W3C
>> recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and SPARQL.
>>  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core system.  It
>> currently includes:
>>
>>  * an API for working with RDF
>>  * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples,
>> NQuads, TriG)
>>  * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
>>  * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, file-backed,
>> in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems
>>  * an API for manipulation of OWL
>>  * a rule-based inference engine
>>  * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
>>  * a standards compliant IRI library.
>>
>> The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the
>>  creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also  as
>> companion open source activities.
>>
>> This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena download,
>> ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other components may be
>> contributed later - we're  just starting with the main part of Jena for now.
>>
>> == Background ==
>> The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is important
>> to follow these standards so that independently built applications can
>> exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality  Java
>> implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that application  writers
>> can concentrate on the application, not the low-level details.
>>
>> W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/
>>
>> Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/
>>
>> == Rationale ==
>> The open source project was originally created as part of a research
>> activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified
>>  the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details of
>>  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process and  the
>> creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with the  details of
>> semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. The  developers
>> have contributed implementation experience back to the working groups.
>>
>> None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform contributor
>> and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.
>>
>> == Current Status ==
>> Jena is already an established project with a large user base in industry
>> and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause license with a
>> number of contributing copyright holders. Support is primarily provided via
>> the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The majority of the team was
>> employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority of the copyright over the code
>> - there are contributions from non-HP companies.  HP decided to close the
>> research group as of October 2009 and the people from HPLabs connected with
>> the project have moved on to several different semantic web companies.
>>
>> This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were  in
>> HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues to be
>> supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to become an
>> open source project without a single large  organisation involved.
>>
>> === Meritocracy ===
>> The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a project
>> manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through  individuals
>> contributing to the codebase as part of their research activities.  The team
>> has organised itself to create the framework for builds, releases and public
>> support, and people who had worked on Jena in HP, and moved to other
>> companies and institutions, have continued to  contribute.
>>
>> === Core developers ===
>> Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 2000.
>> Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups including
>> chairing the "RDF Core" working group and acting as document editors on
>> several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena contributors
>> have been involved in public debate and decision making. People have since
>> moved on from HP to several semantic web forced companies and to un

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Wink 1.1.2 release

[Raymond Feng]

Congratulations! We (Tuscany project) just moved to the latest release and it 
works smoothly. The nicer thing is that we can remove some of the workarounds 
that are now fixed. :-)

Thanks,
Raymond
 
Raymond Feng
rf...@apache.org
Apache Tuscany PMC member and committer: tuscany.apache.org
Co-author of Tuscany SCA In Action book: www.tuscanyinaction.com
Personal Web Site: www.enjoyjava.com


On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Mike Rheinheimer wrote:

> The Apache Wink project is pleased to announce the release of Apache Wink
> 1.1.2-incubating.
> 
> We have quite a few new features, including:
> 
> Improvements
>* WINK-287 - Support web beans / (J)CDI / JSR-299
>* WINK-295 - Upgrade to SLF4J 1.6.0
>* WINK-296 - DEBUG -> TRACE logging reform
>* WINK-297 - serviceability improvement; externalize strings, confirm
> formatting
>* WINK-299 - Make Jackson the default JSON provider for Wink
>* WINK-304 - serviceability improvement, output information upon
> application registration, errors
>* WINK-305 - allow configuration file for SSL
>* WINK-310 - Annotations inherited by a resource class should determine
> parameter type from the subclass, not the superclass
>* WINK-315 - Improve the tolerance of malformed media types
>* WINK-319 - Simplify addition of Request/Response handlers
>* WINK-325 - Allow AtomCommonAttributes#otherAttributes and
> AtomCommonAttributesSimpleContent#otherAttributes to be lazy initialized.
> 
> New Features
>* WINK-313 - WADL support
>* WINK-318 - Wink JSON model
>* WINK-321 - Support @XmlJavaTypeAdapter and @XmlElement on method
> params
>* WINK-322 - Add JSR250 life cycle management support
>* WINK-326 - AsyncHttpClient module
> 
> Please see the main project page for downloads and information.  Thanks!
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/wink/
> 
> Thanks mentors and IPMCers for all your help!
> mike - a Winker.
> 

RE: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

[Noel J. Bergman]

> Does the Apache Foundation provides some guidelines to fill it?

Yes.  See http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html

--- Noel



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[ANNOUNCE] Apache Wink 1.1.2 release

[Mike Rheinheimer]

The Apache Wink project is pleased to announce the release of Apache Wink
1.1.2-incubating.

We have quite a few new features, including:

Improvements
* WINK-287 - Support web beans / (J)CDI / JSR-299
* WINK-295 - Upgrade to SLF4J 1.6.0
* WINK-296 - DEBUG -> TRACE logging reform
* WINK-297 - serviceability improvement; externalize strings, confirm
formatting
* WINK-299 - Make Jackson the default JSON provider for Wink
* WINK-304 - serviceability improvement, output information upon
application registration, errors
* WINK-305 - allow configuration file for SSL
* WINK-310 - Annotations inherited by a resource class should determine
parameter type from the subclass, not the superclass
* WINK-315 - Improve the tolerance of malformed media types
* WINK-319 - Simplify addition of Request/Response handlers
* WINK-325 - Allow AtomCommonAttributes#otherAttributes and
AtomCommonAttributesSimpleContent#otherAttributes to be lazy initialized.

New Features
* WINK-313 - WADL support
* WINK-318 - Wink JSON model
* WINK-321 - Support @XmlJavaTypeAdapter and @XmlElement on method
params
* WINK-322 - Add JSR250 life cycle management support
* WINK-326 - AsyncHttpClient module

Please see the main project page for downloads and information.  Thanks!

http://incubator.apache.org/wink/

Thanks mentors and IPMCers for all your help!
mike - a Winker.
 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[ant elder]

+1

   ...ant

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Gardler  wrote:
> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can
> be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied
> below.
>
> [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
> [ ] +0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>
> Thanks,
> Ross
>
> = Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
> == Abstract ==
> Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.
>
> == Proposal ==
> Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key W3C
> recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and SPARQL.
>  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core system.  It
> currently includes:
>
>  * an API for working with RDF
>  * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples,
> NQuads, TriG)
>  * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
>  * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, file-backed,
> in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems
>  * an API for manipulation of OWL
>  * a rule-based inference engine
>  * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
>  * a standards compliant IRI library.
>
> The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the
>  creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also  as
> companion open source activities.
>
> This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena download,
> ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other components may be
> contributed later - we're  just starting with the main part of Jena for now.
>
> == Background ==
> The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is important
> to follow these standards so that independently built applications can
> exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality  Java
> implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that application  writers
> can concentrate on the application, not the low-level details.
>
> W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/
>
> Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/
>
> == Rationale ==
> The open source project was originally created as part of a research
> activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified
>  the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details of
>  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process and  the
> creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with the  details of
> semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. The  developers
> have contributed implementation experience back to the working groups.
>
> None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform contributor
> and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.
>
> == Current Status ==
> Jena is already an established project with a large user base in industry
> and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause license with a
> number of contributing copyright holders. Support is primarily provided via
> the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The majority of the team was
> employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority of the copyright over the code
> - there are contributions from non-HP companies.  HP decided to close the
> research group as of October 2009 and the people from HPLabs connected with
> the project have moved on to several different semantic web companies.
>
> This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were  in
> HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues to be
> supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to become an
> open source project without a single large  organisation involved.
>
> === Meritocracy ===
> The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a project
> manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through  individuals
> contributing to the codebase as part of their research activities.  The team
> has organised itself to create the framework for builds, releases and public
> support, and people who had worked on Jena in HP, and moved to other
> companies and institutions, have continued to  contribute.
>
> === Core developers ===
> Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 2000.
> Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups including
> chairing the "RDF Core" working group and acting as document editors on
> several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena contributors
> have been involved in public debate and decision making. People have since
> moved on from HP to several semantic web forced companies and to university
> positions.
>
> === Alignment ===
> Jena is already in use in many commercial systems as well as widely used  in
> academic research and teaching.  We want to con

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Reto Bachmann-Gmuer]

+1 (non binding)

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> +1
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ross Gardler  wrote:
>> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can
>> be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied
>> below.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
>> [ ] +0 Don't care
>> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>>
>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ross
>>
>> = Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
>> == Abstract ==
>> Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.
>>
>> == Proposal ==
>> Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key W3C
>> recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and SPARQL.
>>  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core system.  It
>> currently includes:
>>
>>  * an API for working with RDF
>>  * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples,
>> NQuads, TriG)
>>  * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
>>  * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, file-backed,
>> in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems
>>  * an API for manipulation of OWL
>>  * a rule-based inference engine
>>  * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
>>  * a standards compliant IRI library.
>>
>> The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the
>>  creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also  as
>> companion open source activities.
>>
>> This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena download,
>> ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other components may be
>> contributed later - we're  just starting with the main part of Jena for now.
>>
>> == Background ==
>> The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is important
>> to follow these standards so that independently built applications can
>> exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality  Java
>> implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that application  writers
>> can concentrate on the application, not the low-level details.
>>
>> W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/
>>
>> Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/
>>
>> == Rationale ==
>> The open source project was originally created as part of a research
>> activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified
>>  the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details of
>>  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process and  the
>> creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with the  details of
>> semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. The  developers
>> have contributed implementation experience back to the working groups.
>>
>> None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform contributor
>> and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.
>>
>> == Current Status ==
>> Jena is already an established project with a large user base in industry
>> and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause license with a
>> number of contributing copyright holders. Support is primarily provided via
>> the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The majority of the team was
>> employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority of the copyright over the code
>> - there are contributions from non-HP companies.  HP decided to close the
>> research group as of October 2009 and the people from HPLabs connected with
>> the project have moved on to several different semantic web companies.
>>
>> This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were  in
>> HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues to be
>> supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to become an
>> open source project without a single large  organisation involved.
>>
>> === Meritocracy ===
>> The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a project
>> manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through  individuals
>> contributing to the codebase as part of their research activities.  The team
>> has organised itself to create the framework for builds, releases and public
>> support, and people who had worked on Jena in HP, and moved to other
>> companies and institutions, have continued to  contribute.
>>
>> === Core developers ===
>> Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 2000.
>> Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups including
>> chairing the "RDF Core" working group and acting as document editors on
>> several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena contributors
>> have been involved in public debate and decision making. People have since
>> moved on from HP to several semantic web forced companies and to universi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Raphael Volz]

+1
very established framework in the Semantics Web area.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> +1
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ross Gardler  wrote:
>> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can
>> be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied
>> below.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
>> [ ] +0 Don't care
>> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>>
>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ross
>>
>> = Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
>> == Abstract ==
>> Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.
>>
>> == Proposal ==
>> Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key W3C
>> recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and SPARQL.
>>  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core system.  It
>> currently includes:
>>
>>  * an API for working with RDF
>>  * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples,
>> NQuads, TriG)
>>  * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
>>  * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, file-backed,
>> in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems
>>  * an API for manipulation of OWL
>>  * a rule-based inference engine
>>  * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
>>  * a standards compliant IRI library.
>>
>> The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the
>>  creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also  as
>> companion open source activities.
>>
>> This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena download,
>> ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other components may be
>> contributed later - we're  just starting with the main part of Jena for now.
>>
>> == Background ==
>> The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is important
>> to follow these standards so that independently built applications can
>> exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality  Java
>> implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that application  writers
>> can concentrate on the application, not the low-level details.
>>
>> W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/
>>
>> Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/
>>
>> == Rationale ==
>> The open source project was originally created as part of a research
>> activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified
>>  the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details of
>>  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process and  the
>> creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with the  details of
>> semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. The  developers
>> have contributed implementation experience back to the working groups.
>>
>> None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform contributor
>> and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.
>>
>> == Current Status ==
>> Jena is already an established project with a large user base in industry
>> and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause license with a
>> number of contributing copyright holders. Support is primarily provided via
>> the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The majority of the team was
>> employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority of the copyright over the code
>> - there are contributions from non-HP companies.  HP decided to close the
>> research group as of October 2009 and the people from HPLabs connected with
>> the project have moved on to several different semantic web companies.
>>
>> This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were  in
>> HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues to be
>> supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to become an
>> open source project without a single large  organisation involved.
>>
>> === Meritocracy ===
>> The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a project
>> manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through  individuals
>> contributing to the codebase as part of their research activities.  The team
>> has organised itself to create the framework for builds, releases and public
>> support, and people who had worked on Jena in HP, and moved to other
>> companies and institutions, have continued to  contribute.
>>
>> === Core developers ===
>> Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 2000.
>> Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups including
>> chairing the "RDF Core" working group and acting as document editors on
>> several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena contributors
>> have been involved in public debate and decision making. People have since
>> moved on from HP to several seman

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Benson Margulies]

+1

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ross Gardler  wrote:
> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal can
> be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied
> below.
>
> [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
> [ ] +0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>
> Thanks,
> Ross
>
> = Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
> == Abstract ==
> Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.
>
> == Proposal ==
> Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key W3C
> recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and SPARQL.
>  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core system.  It
> currently includes:
>
>  * an API for working with RDF
>  * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples,
> NQuads, TriG)
>  * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
>  * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, file-backed,
> in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems
>  * an API for manipulation of OWL
>  * a rule-based inference engine
>  * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
>  * a standards compliant IRI library.
>
> The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the
>  creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also  as
> companion open source activities.
>
> This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena download,
> ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other components may be
> contributed later - we're  just starting with the main part of Jena for now.
>
> == Background ==
> The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is important
> to follow these standards so that independently built applications can
> exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality  Java
> implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that application  writers
> can concentrate on the application, not the low-level details.
>
> W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/
>
> Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/
>
> == Rationale ==
> The open source project was originally created as part of a research
> activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified
>  the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details of
>  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process and  the
> creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with the  details of
> semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. The  developers
> have contributed implementation experience back to the working groups.
>
> None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform contributor
> and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.
>
> == Current Status ==
> Jena is already an established project with a large user base in industry
> and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause license with a
> number of contributing copyright holders. Support is primarily provided via
> the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The majority of the team was
> employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority of the copyright over the code
> - there are contributions from non-HP companies.  HP decided to close the
> research group as of October 2009 and the people from HPLabs connected with
> the project have moved on to several different semantic web companies.
>
> This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were  in
> HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues to be
> supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to become an
> open source project without a single large  organisation involved.
>
> === Meritocracy ===
> The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a project
> manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through  individuals
> contributing to the codebase as part of their research activities.  The team
> has organised itself to create the framework for builds, releases and public
> support, and people who had worked on Jena in HP, and moved to other
> companies and institutions, have continued to  contribute.
>
> === Core developers ===
> Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 2000.
> Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups including
> chairing the "RDF Core" working group and acting as document editors on
> several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena contributors
> have been involved in public debate and decision making. People have since
> moved on from HP to several semantic web forced companies and to university
> positions.
>
> === Alignment ===
> Jena is already in use in many commercial systems as well as widely used  in
> academic research and teaching.  We want to continue makin

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Ross Gardler  wrote:
> Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator...

+1

-Bertrand

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[VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

[Ross Gardler]

Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator. The proposal 
can be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is 
copied below.


[ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
[ ] +0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:

The vote is open for at least 72 hours.

Thanks,
Ross

= Jena, a Semantic Web Framework =
== Abstract ==
Jena is a semantic web framework for Java, based on W3C standards.

== Proposal ==
Jena provides a semantic web framework in Java that implements the key 
W3C recommendations for the core semantic web technologies of RDF and 
SPARQL.  Jena is a number of components and modules built on this core 
system.  It currently includes:


 * an API for working with RDF
 * Parsers and writers for the RDF formats (RDF/XML, Turtle, N-triples, 
NQuads, TriG)

 * an implementation of SPARQL, the W3C standard RDF query language
 * multiple storage systems for RDF data including in-memory, 
file-backed, in SQL databases and in custom scalable storage systems

 * an API for manipulation of OWL
 * a rule-based inference engine
 * an implementation of GRDDL for extraction of RDF from XML formats
 * a standards compliant IRI library.

The project includes facilities based around this core to encourage the 
 creation of components and contributions both as part of Jena and also 
 as companion open source activities.


This proposal includes the main components of Jena: the main Jena 
download, ARQ, GRDDL, SDB, TDB, the IRI  library and Joseki.  Other 
components may be contributed later - we're  just starting with the main 
part of Jena for now.


== Background ==
The W3C recommendations provide detailed specifications and it is 
important to follow these standards so that independently built 
applications can exchange data over the web.  Jena provides high quality 
 Java implementations of RDF input/output and storage so that 
application  writers can concentrate on the application, not the 
low-level details.


W3C Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/

Jena has been on !SourceForge since 2001. 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jena/


== Rationale ==
The open source project was originally created as part of a research 
activity in HPLabs.  In building new systems, the researchers identified 
 the value of a common platform that dealt with the low level details 
of  the standards.  This lead to engagement with the standards process 
and  the creation of a framework that provided a library to deal with 
the  details of semantic web standards.  This work was released as Jena. 
The  developers have contributed implementation experience back to the 
working groups.


None of the contributors now work for HP.  Providing a uniform 
contributor and licensing framework assists commercial use of Jena.


== Current Status ==
Jena is already an established project with a large user base in 
industry and academia.  It currently uses a BSD-style three-clause 
license with a number of contributing copyright holders. Support is 
primarily provided via the jena-...@groups.yahoo.com mailing list. The 
majority of the team was employed in HPLabs, and HP holds the majority 
of the copyright over the code - there are contributions from non-HP 
companies.  HP decided to close the research group as of October 2009 
and the people from HPLabs connected with the project have moved on to 
several different semantic web companies.


This change does not immediately affect Jena because the people who were 
 in HP still remain active contributors to Jena.  The project continues 
to be supported and actively enhanced.  There is now the  opportunity to 
become an open source project without a single large  organisation involved.


=== Meritocracy ===
The Jena team has always been self-determining; there has not been a 
project manager in charge of the effort.  Instead, it has grown through 
 individuals contributing to the codebase as part of their research 
activities.  The team has organised itself to create the framework for 
builds, releases and public support, and people who had worked on Jena 
in HP, and moved to other companies and institutions, have continued to 
 contribute.


=== Core developers ===
Jena originated within a research activity in HPLabs, starting around 
2000. Contributors to jena have been active in W3C working groups 
including chairing the "RDF Core" working group and acting as document 
editors on several other working groups.  W3C processes are public; jena 
contributors have been involved in public debate and decision making. 
People have since moved on from HP to several semantic web forced 
companies and to university positions.


=== Alignment ===
Jena is already in use in many commercial systems as well as widely used 
 in academic research and teaching.  We want to continue making this 
easy  and at the same time encourage contribution in a well-known 
environment.


Jena is already pretty much run in a collaborative open development 
style with communic

Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

[Benson Margulies]

+1 to the proposal.

> What makes me uneasy about this is that, notwithstanding the one
> mentor vote, we are basically saying that the bar for ASF
> committership can now be defined solely by a group of people who might
> have no knowledge, as yet, of "the Apache way" in general and the way
> meritocracy works in particular.
>

I disagree. The essential ingredient is the requirement for mentor
participation.

It's the mentor's job to pay attention and see if the project is on
the right track.

> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>> As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
>> and it worked fine like that, there is the "experiment" currently in
>> place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
>> the board has said they're ok with it.
>>
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Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

[Chapuis Bertil]

I am using droids to build and update a dataset used for social network
analysis. I also plan some work in 2011 to use it as an easy to install and
easy to configure enterprise resource crawler (intranet, extranet, samba
shares, ftp, etc.).

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> ...
> >
> > > I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my
> > > professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time
> > > on any projects let alone Droids.
> >
> > Congratulations on your new child.  :-)
>
> Cheers, after 2 girls now a boy. :)
>
> >
> > > I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the
> > > incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find
> > > the time for that ATM.
> >
> > Who else is working on it now?  Do you expect to have more time in 2011?
>
> There are a couple of people interested in the project, including
> committer from other projects, the problem only a couple of committer
> actually apply the patches and trying to give feedback.
>
> I think as things get more routine again I will find some time. Further
> our company has done recently some Android development and I have an
> idea to use Apache Droids on Android for different use cases.
>
> salu2
> --
> Thorsten Scherler 
> codeBusters S.L. - web based systems
> 
> http://www.codebusters.es/
>
>

RE: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

[Thorsten Scherler]

On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
...
> 
> > I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my
> > professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time
> > on any projects let alone Droids.
> 
> Congratulations on your new child.  :-)

Cheers, after 2 girls now a boy. :)

> 
> > I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the
> > incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find
> > the time for that ATM.
> 
> Who else is working on it now?  Do you expect to have more time in 2011?

There are a couple of people interested in the project, including
committer from other projects, the problem only a couple of committer
actually apply the patches and trying to give feedback.

I think as things get more routine again I will find some time. Further
our company has done recently some Android development and I have an
idea to use Apache Droids on Android for different use cases.

salu2
-- 
Thorsten Scherler 
codeBusters S.L. - web based systems

http://www.codebusters.es/


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Re: [IP-CLEARANCE] Bushel Donation to Apache Ant

[Nicolas Lalevée]

Le 17 nov. 2010 à 00:30, Christopher Brind a écrit :

> Apologies if this is not the place to discuss this, but I notice on the
> Bushel Google Code page that it only honours "require-bundle", is that still
> the case?
> 
> Are there plans to support import/export package soon (since package level
> dependencies are the recommended practice and, IMHO, require-bundle is
> frankly an after-thought to OSGi to support the Eclipse crowd).  I think
> this has the potential to be a great addition to Ivy, but not until it
> supports package level dependencies.
> 
> That said, I don't have anything against this happening, just curious and
> would like to know that further development is planned. :)

It depends on the Ivy resolver you use, but packages are mostly supported. One 
of the resolver even support the "use" attribute.
It is quite experimental though, OSGi's dependency model doesn't fit that well 
into Ivy's one. If you are interested in this topic, here is the documentation 
of the mapping of the "smartest" Ivy-OSGi resolver:
http://code.google.com/p/bushel/wiki/IvyOsgiMapping

And a proper place to have further discussion would be the ivy-user or ant-dev 
if you are interested :)

Nicolas

> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 November 2010 12:14, Stefan Bodewig  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> the people behind the Bushel project at Google Code[1] which provides
>> limited OSGi support to Apache Ivy want to donate their codebase for
>> integration into Ivy.
>> 
>> The code can be found at JIRA issue IVY-1241[2], all three authors
>> (one of them is Ant PMC member Nicolas Lalevée) signed software grants
>> and the Ant PMC voted to accept the donation.
>> 
>> The form is already online at
>>  but I forgot to
>> add it to the index (done now, should become world-visible soonish).
>> 
>> 72hrs waiting period for -1s start now.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>   Stefan
>> 
>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/bushel/
>> 
>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-1241
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