Hi folks,
forwarding my comment regarding the Skype discussion on
gene...@incubation to keep you in the loop ... :-)
Cheers,
Siegfried Goeschl
Original Message
Subject: [ISIS] Re: Conference call
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:41:01 +0100
From: Siegfried Goeschl siegfried.goes...@it20one.at
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org, siegfried.goes...@it20one.at
Organization: IT20one GmbH
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Hi folks,
open source projects are done by individuals. And individuals like to
communicate during long lonely nights in front of the keyboard. And
meeting the other ISIS developers is difficult since the are spread
around the globe.
So if the ISIS developer/users/mentors/community decide to run a regular
Skype meeting to meet each other electronically assuming
+) that the meeting is announced on the dev list
+) that we not exclude any interested party (apart from troll feeding)
+) that no official statement/vote is circumvented
than I don't see any good reason why someone could complain about it
and/or impose rules how to organize such a come together.
Speaking as one of the participants
+) I was impressed by Dan's energy to organize the meeting
+) I was delighted that we were a dozen developers on Skype
*) I was glad to answer a few questions about the ASF (despite being
seriously distracted by my two daughters on my lap)
Cheers,
Siegfried Goeschl
Apache ISIS Mentor
On 11/19/10 10:52 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
A full transcription shouldn't be necessary.
I agree. Transcript is too strong for what I think needs to be done,
which is...
Just bring a summary of
discussion points back to the list, along with any recommendations.
The list can then sort through it and make decisions.
What you said. Not a transcript but a list of topics and discussion
points which continue on list.
Craig
We have off-list discussions all the time (IM, IRC, in-person). We
don't transcribe those. We just bring the discussion onto the list for
wrapping it up with everybody present. Skype concalls are no different
than these other forums.
Cheers,
-g
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:18, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
My $0.02:
The business of Apache is conducted on email.
It's fine to have a periodic conference call among interested project
participants, as long as (my list, not normative):
no project or community member is excluded (e.g. by posting the call
information only to a private list)
no decisions are made during the call
all topics discussed are subsequently posted via email to the project
members
Having an audio transcript is interesting but doesn't pass my email
test. So
I'd have to say that someone needs to transcribe the audio into email.
Craig
On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:29 AM, James Carman wrote:
I don't know about this. Whatever we do has to be trackable and
open, so I don't know about this Skype stuff. Requiring folks to
watch a video or listen to an audio recording rather than reading a
transcript is probably not a good idea. I'm copying the general list
to see what others have to say.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
Good idea
+1 on the Skype monthly meeting.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alexander Krasnukhin
the.malk...@gmail.com wrote:
At least it makes me feel ISIS is really going somewhere. I don't
know
how
to explain this. E.g. there are some real ALIVE people involved :).
Monthly is good.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Burton
mi...@mycosystems.co.ukwrote:
Yes very useful interesting and enjoyable, thanks for organising it.
Yes
monthly similar would be good.
Mike
On 19 Nov 2010, at 10:49, Dan Haywood dkhayw...@gmail.com wrote:
First off, thanks to all for attending, and I really enjoyed the
opportunity. Hope it was useful. It was nice, actually, to read the
transcript on the Skype IM call afterwards (I didn't get the oppo
to do
that
while I was demo'ing).
Second, my apols that I didn't have the demo working. Of course,
after
the call finished I figured out the problem in about 2 minutes.
At any
rate, the details on running the demo for yourselves are on the
SmokeTest
page on the wiki [1].
Third, per a recording, like Kevin I also recorded the call using
CallGraph, though mine seems to have recorded ok. It's about 92Mb,
recorded it in stereo, and what Skype did is distribute the voices
across
the spectrum, which I think is quite nice. Anyway, I've just
uploaded
it to
my dropbox account and I'll post the URL on isis-private. (If you
aren't
subscribed there, contact me directly).
Lastly, it'd be nice to do a similar call like that now and
again. We
could perhaps set one up every month, attendance purely optional.
Thoughts?
Cheers
Dan
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ISIS/smoketest.html
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On 18/11/2010 20:08, Kevin Meyer - KMZ wrote:
Hi Dan,
Thanks for organizing the call.
I
