Re: VXQuery status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by TillWestmann)

2012-04-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Vinayak Borkar  wrote:
> We in the VXQuery trenches need some help with growing the community. We
> understand the technical aspects of implementing the XQuery engine, but need
> some guidance with community building.

It seems like you're lacking active mentors. Any volunteers to help VXQuery?

> My day-job is at a university where I meet students with various interests.
> The GSoC project proposals were done with the aim of using students for the
> summer (with funding by Google through GSoC), to work on bootstrapping the
> VXQuery project so it gets into a functional state.

OK. A big part of GSoC is giving students a chance to interact and
work with an open source community, so I think it would be good if
there was at least some ongoing activity beyond or in addition to the
GSoC projects.

ComDev people, is there anything you think you could/should do to help
VXQuery on this?

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Extraordinary OpenOffice security patch (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by robweir)

2012-04-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Apache Wiki  wrote:
> OpenOffice
>
> Out-of-Band Report

Thanks the explicit report about this!

> The IPMC and Board should note that this extraordinary patch was made
> available, as a courtesy to the ecosystem, based on the severity of the 
> reported
> vulnerability and the ease of exploiting it.  The patch was made available 
> under
> ALv2, and distribution was done via the Apache mirrors, although this did
> not constitute an official release.

This is pretty gray territory. Normally neither a podling nor a TLP
should ever publish binaries for distribution without all the relevant
source code and without going through the standard voting procedure.

> Because of the required secrecy around the preparation of such security 
> patches,
> a minimum number of Apache members were involved in vetting this release, 
> though
> we did try to touch all bases by involving mentors, Infra and Legal Affairs.

I'm inclined to trust the judgement of people involved here.

It should be noted though that even though the /dist/incubator/ooo
space was used to distribute these patches, they were and are not
officially blessed by the Incubator PMC on behalf of the ASF.

Should a similar case arise in the future, I'd prefer if a clearly
separate area under /dist or some other place was used to prevent
confusing these with official Apache releases.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Tashi status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by MichaelStroucken)

2012-04-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

Thanks for the report, Tashi!

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Apache Wiki  wrote:
> + In the period from January to April, the project had received permission
> + to publish a release. Shortly thereafter, a further release was
> + approved, incorporating several bug fixes detected during deployment
> + of the first release and from Jira reports.

Great!

> + In the process of making our first release, contact to two of our three
> + mentors was re-established. The third mentor has not been heard from
> + (also in other parts of Apache) for quite a while.

Good to hear that. Could you update the podling status page to drop
the third mentor?

More generally, I guess we at the IPMC should check whether the
mentors of especially long-running podlings are still actively
involved. I'll follow up about that in a separate email.

> + The project has a user community, but it is small. Growth mostly has
> + happened by word of mouth. To show potential users at large the
> + utility of this project, the author of this report will apply some of
> + the advice posted to gene...@apache.incubator.org, as well as create
> + web pages demonstrating the project's utility, provide sample VM images
> + and disseminate other information relating to the deployments close to him.
> + He will also urge others to make similar information publically available.

I'm looking forward to hearing about the results and your experience
on what worked and what didn't, perhaps in time for your next report
in July. Some of these ideas are quite time-consuming to implement, so
it'll also be useful to know if some where dropped because of
insufficient free cycles.

> + One of our users has requested the creation of a private branch for his
> + team to work on. Perhaps this will result in a valuable feature addition
> + to the project.

+1 if that helps get them more involved. Ultimately though you'll want
to have everyone in the community work together on a shared codebase.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Giraph status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by OwenOmalley)

2012-04-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

Thanks for the report, Giraph!

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Apache Wiki  wrote:
> + Next steps:
> + * Another incubator release
> + * Adding new committers

Looking at the report and recent project activity it looks like Giraph
is doing pretty well. In fact I can't spot any obvious graduation
blockers. Anything I'm missing? If not, have you already started
preparing for graduation?

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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JSPWiki status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by HarryMetske)

2012-04-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

Thanks for the report, JSPWiki!

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Apache Wiki  wrote:
> + As a result of discussing in the dev-list, the objectives
> + for graduation have changed: the first Apache release
> + will be based on 2.8 (package-renamed), which is
> + battle-tested, being the plan to evolve from there.

Sounds good.

> + 4 JIRA issues were fixed since last period, and tests are
> + now part of the main build.

That's a fairly low level of activity, though fine if you think it's
increasing or stable over time.

> + The main issues blocking graduation now are resolution
> + acceptance, and community and IPMC graduation vote.

In addition to the first release, I assume. How far along are you with that?

> + The developer list currently has ?? subscribers; and the
> + user list has ??? subscribers.

Without the numbers this doesn't add much, so I dropped the sentence
from the report.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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[VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC6

2012-04-11 Thread Shinichiro Abe
Hi,

Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC6.
This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection.

You can download the release candidate from
http://people.apache.org/~shinichiro/apache-manifoldcf-0.5-incubating-RC6/
and there is also a tag in svn under 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.5-incubating-RC6/.

It has done improvements for its distribution(bin,lib,src) 
and build process as to core dependencies.

Thank you,
Shinichiro Abe
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Re: [VOTE] CloudStack for Apache Incubator

2012-04-11 Thread Brett Porter

On 10/04/2012, at 11:32 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote:

> Hi All.  I'd like to call for a VOTE for CloudStack to enter the Incubator.  
> The proposal is available at [1] and I have also included it below.   Please 
> vote with:
> +1: accept CloudStack into Incubator
> +0: don't care
> -1: do not accept CloudStack into Incubator (please explain the objection)
> 
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours from now (until at least 19:00 US-PST 
> on April 12, 2012).


+1

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Re: Giraph status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by OwenOmalley)

2012-04-11 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the report, Giraph!
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Apache Wiki  wrote:
>> + Next steps:
>> + * Another incubator release
>> + * Adding new committers
>
> Looking at the report and recent project activity it looks like Giraph
> is doing pretty well. In fact I can't spot any obvious graduation
> blockers. Anything I'm missing? If not, have you already started
> preparing for graduation?

We haven't started yet, but I was thinking along similar lines. Should
I start a vote on the dev list?

Thanks,
   Owen

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RE: Spam on the Incubator wiki

2012-04-11 Thread Gavin McDonald


> -Original Message-
> From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 3:05 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Spam on the Incubator wiki
> 
> Hi Gavin,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Gavin McDonald
>  wrote:
> > I'm seeing more and more spam appear, just give me the nod and it'll
> > be done.
> 
> You're the man! With no objections raised, please make the change.

Done, let me know if any issues. Someone should change the greeting/edit
instructions
On the incubator home page to state that a once off email to general@ is
enough to be
Granted wiki write access.

HTH

Gav...

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Re: Extraordinary OpenOffice security patch (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by robweir)

2012-04-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/11/2012 2:36 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> 
> It should be noted though that even though the /dist/incubator/ooo
> space was used to distribute these patches, they were and are not
> officially blessed by the Incubator PMC on behalf of the ASF.
> 
> Should a similar case arise in the future, I'd prefer if a clearly
> separate area under /dist or some other place was used to prevent
> confusing these with official Apache releases.

Short of people.a.o/~luser/my-patch.tgz, I'm fairly certain that
can't happen with an incubating podling.  Everything under the space
/dist/ must exist under a PMC.  And if AOOo ever does on a broad
security patch distribution, inflicting that traffic on people.a.o,
infra will be taking names and kicking asses.

As chair, you should have been brought into this loop, but with the
change from Noel I can see how this oversight happened.  Sorry about
that.  It's probably another example why the current infrastructure
schema simply isn't plausible.


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Re: Extraordinary OpenOffice security patch (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "April2012" by robweir)

2012-04-11 Thread Dave Fisher

On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:43 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

> On 4/11/2012 2:36 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> 
>> It should be noted though that even though the /dist/incubator/ooo
>> space was used to distribute these patches, they were and are not
>> officially blessed by the Incubator PMC on behalf of the ASF.
>> 
>> Should a similar case arise in the future, I'd prefer if a clearly
>> separate area under /dist or some other place was used to prevent
>> confusing these with official Apache releases.
> 
> Short of people.a.o/~luser/my-patch.tgz, I'm fairly certain that
> can't happen with an incubating podling.  Everything under the space
> /dist/ must exist under a PMC.  And if AOOo ever does on a broad
> security patch distribution, inflicting that traffic on people.a.o,
> infra will be taking names and kicking asses.
> 
> As chair, you should have been brought into this loop, but with the
> change from Noel I can see how this oversight happened.  Sorry about
> that.  It's probably another example why the current infrastructure
> schema simply isn't plausible.

As a member of the IPMC and also the AOO PPMC I was not very happy with the way 
this was held close ny a few mentors and ooo-security members. I made claims on 
ooo-dev that we weren't going to patch when others knew perfectly well that we 
were, It was truly crazy time. I think that certain people erred on the side of 
not trusting trustworthy people. That is extremely unfortunate. I know that I 
was made to feel I wasted my precious time due to this secrecy. I think it was 
wrong. The "inner circle" failed to properly consider Linux users when many of 
the PPMC were well within that rank. There were significantly false assumptions 
about the user base  impact that were perpetuated by the secrecy that 
surrounded this patch,

The "inner circle" that did this felt they had no choice but to exclude the 
PPMC from their consideration. I know that this damaged my interaction with the 
project, I still feel very much untrusted.

Sorry, I can't remain mute, but I offended anyone, sorry, but this was wrongly 
done. I don't know a better way

Regards,
Dave

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