Drill Report - Shepherds View

2012-12-09 Thread Suresh Marru
I was pleased to a detailed report by the Drill PPMC and sign off by all the 
Mentors. Email discussions like the thread "What do you want out of Apache 
Drill" [1], should help the podling engage the community. Since the report is 
detailed, I will skip adding kudos to all the points but over all, Drill seems 
to be doing very well. Couple of suggestions for the project to consider 

* Its only 3 months into the incubation so too early to complain, but the 
project should consider release early and release often. Do not wait too long 
to make a release.
* The mailing list traffic is good, but the JIRA traffic is lower than what I 
expected. Since there is a good interest shown by community, putting effort in 
listing the issues and breaking down the tasks might translate the community 
interest into contributions. 

Cheers,
Suresh

[1]  - 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201212.mbox/browser

Re: Some missing things for the December report

2012-12-09 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Upayavira  wrote:
> I hereby note my sign off of the wave report, and ask for a volunteer to
> update the wiki page on my behalf. My currently available technology is
> simply not up to the task.

Done.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Karma for incubator wiki

2012-12-09 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya
 wrote:
> Could someone please grant me write access to the incubator wiki, I am a
> mentor of Marmotta project and need the write access to sign off the board
> reports.
>
> My wiki id is - NandanaMihindukulasooriya

Done.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
Well it seems simple enough- I get a bounce
whenever I run the reminders script.  Clearly
the address listed on the rotation url must be wrong,
otherwise reminders wouldn't produce a bounce.





>
> From: David Crossley 
>To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer  
>Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:31 PM
>Subject: Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012
> 
>Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> The hdt-dev@ list is the wrong address, which
>> explains why the others are missing: reminders.pl
>> is not expecting the new mailing list pattern.
>
>Thanks for updating marvin reminders.pl to handle the
>new incubator pattern.
>
>The hdt thing is something different. The recent tweaks
>to Clutch need to also cope with them having a name which is
>different to their project name.
>
>-David
>
>> >
>> > From: David Crossley
>> > 
>> >I do not know what is happening. Marvin seems to have an old list.
>> >
>> >The list is here:
>> >http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_3.txt
>> >and does correctly have Onami, Ripple, and Streams.
>> >
>> >Oh well, just reminders, everyone should know.
>> >
>> >-David
>> >
>> >Marvin wrote to private@i.a.o:
>> >> 
>> >> The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 
>> >> PST.
>> >> 
>> >> I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
>> >> to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
>> >> 
>> >> Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
>> >> 
>> >>     Allura Developers    
>> >>     Bloodhound Developers    
>> >>     cTAKES Developers    
>> >>     Drill Developers    
>> >>     Etch Developers    
>> >>     Flex Developers    
>> >>     Hadoop Development Tools Developers    
>> >>     HCatalog Developers    
>> >>     Kalumet Developers    
>> >>     Openmeetings Developers    
>> >>     S4 Developers    
>> >>     Wave Developers    
>> >> 
>> >> -
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Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-09 Thread David Crossley
Joe Schaefer wrote:
> The hdt-dev@ list is the wrong address, which
> explains why the others are missing: reminders.pl
> is not expecting the new mailing list pattern.

Thanks for updating marvin reminders.pl to handle the
new incubator pattern.

The hdt thing is something different. The recent tweaks
to Clutch need to also cope with them having a name which is
different to their project name.

-David

> >
> > From: David Crossley
> > 
> >I do not know what is happening. Marvin seems to have an old list.
> >
> >The list is here:
> >http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_3.txt
> >and does correctly have Onami, Ripple, and Streams.
> >
> >Oh well, just reminders, everyone should know.
> >
> >-David
> >
> >Marvin wrote to private@i.a.o:
> >> 
> >> The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 
> >> PST.
> >> 
> >> I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
> >> to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
> >> 
> >> Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
> >> 
> >>     Allura Developers    
> >>     Bloodhound Developers    
> >>     cTAKES Developers    
> >>     Drill Developers    
> >>     Etch Developers    
> >>     Flex Developers    
> >>     Hadoop Development Tools Developers    
> >>     HCatalog Developers    
> >>     Kalumet Developers    
> >>     Openmeetings Developers    
> >>     S4 Developers    
> >>     Wave Developers    
> >> 
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Re: Karma for incubator wiki

2012-12-09 Thread Nandana Mihindukulasooriya
Could someone please grant me write access to the incubator wiki, I am a
mentor of Marmotta project and need the write access to sign off the board
reports.

My wiki id is - NandanaMihindukulasooriya

Thanks in advance !!

Best Regards,
Nandana

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> Its done, happy contributing!
>
> Cheers
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Martin Veith 
> wrote:
> > Could anybody please grant me write access to the incubator wiki, I need
> this to fill in the Etch report. My wiki id is MartinVeith.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
> >
> >
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Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
The hdt-dev@ list is the wrong address, which
explains why the others are missing: reminders.pl
is not expecting the new mailing list pattern.





>
> From: David Crossley 
>To: general@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:54 PM
>Subject: Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012
> 
>I do not know what is happening. Marvin seems to have an old list.
>
>The list is here:
>http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_3.txt
>and does correctly have Onami, Ripple, and Streams.
>
>Oh well, just reminders, everyone should know.
>
>-David
>
>Marvin wrote to private@i.a.o:
>> 
>> The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
>> 
>> I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
>> to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
>> 
>> Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
>> 
>>     Allura Developers    
>>     Bloodhound Developers    
>>     cTAKES Developers    
>>     Drill Developers    
>>     Etch Developers    
>>     Flex Developers    
>>     Hadoop Development Tools Developers    
>>     HCatalog Developers    
>>     Kalumet Developers    
>>     Openmeetings Developers    
>>     S4 Developers    
>>     Wave Developers    
>> 
>> -
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Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-09 Thread David Crossley
I do not know what is happening. Marvin seems to have an old list.

The list is here:
http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_3.txt
and does correctly have Onami, Ripple, and Streams.

Oh well, just reminders, everyone should know.

-David

Marvin wrote to private@i.a.o:
> 
> The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
> 
> I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
> to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
> 
> Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
> 
>   Allura Developers   
>   Bloodhound Developers   
>   cTAKES Developers   
>   Drill Developers
>   Etch Developers 
>   Flex Developers 
>   Hadoop Development Tools Developers 
>   HCatalog Developers 
>   Kalumet Developers  
>   Openmeetings Developers 
>   S4 Developers   
>   Wave Developers 
> 
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Re: Some missing things for the December report

2012-12-09 Thread Upayavira
I hereby note my sign off of the wave report, and ask for a volunteer to
update the wiki page on my behalf. My currently available technology is
simply not up to the task.

Thx, Upayavira

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 04:03 PM, Yegor Kozlov wrote:
> I signed off the report for Openmeetings.
> 
> Yegor
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
> > I took these notes yesterday, so please excuse me if some of these
> > have been fixed.
> >
> > etch: no signoffs
> >
> > hcatalog: no report!
> >
> > kalumet: no report!
> >
> > openmeeting: no sign off, but who cares?
> >
> > wave: no signoffs
> >
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Wrapping it up: Retirement decision making

2012-12-09 Thread Alan Cabrera
If no one minds I think it would be a good idea for the docs to be updated with 
our new common understanding.  What I propose is for for a wiki page with the 
new wording to be created for us to comment/vote on.  I'm happy to consolidate 
the current thinking on this.

Also, I'm too lazy to troll through the list to collect the two new additional 
mentors for Chukwa, I think that it was Ant and Jukka.  Can Ant and Jukka 
confirm?


Regards,
Alan


On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> The current vote thread for retirement of Chukwa, coupled with some of
> the other discussion threads, raises some questions that need to be
> resolved.
> 
> How do we make retirement decisions?
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html says:
> 
> "Before following the retirement steps, the remaining developers of
> the project should be informed and vote should happen on the projects
> dev list. After the vote, the IPMC must vote on the general list to
> retire the project.
> 
> In some cases the developers of a project might be opposed to
> retirement, while the IPMC is in favour because its members cannot see
> a succesfull graduation now or in future. In this case the IPMC
> _decides_ about the retirement."
> 
> In general, Apache projects strive to reach decisions by consensus,
> using votes to memorialize consensus.
> 
> In the Chukwa case, there seems to have been a consensus some months
> ago about how things would proceed. However, I don't think it's
> reasonable to view that decision as a self-operating process in which
> the community pre-decided exactly how and when the plug would be
> pulled. Actually deciding to retire the project, over the objections
> of even one of its contributors, is a decision point that the
> community has to cope with -- however frustrating this may be for
> mentors.
> 
> So, in hindsight, it would have been good to have a [DISCUSS] thread
> in which the mentors could present their view, Eric could argue back,
> and other people could pose questions of clarification. If people
> really want to compare to Wink, someone could do the necessary
> slogging to bring forth real comparative data for Wink.
> 
> But let's imagine that we have a DISCUSS thread and a clear lack of
> consensus. In essence, that's what the current [VOTE] thread amounts
> to. Now what? Do we say, 'well, in the absence of consensus, we must
> continue the podling'? Do we say this even in the absence of enough
> mentors willing to supervise it?
> 
> I stupidly posted an initial version of this question to private@, and
> Ross replied with some very clear thinking on this, which I trust that
> he will re-send to this thread. I'll stop here and wait for that.
> 
> --benson
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[jira] [Created] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-19) Establish whether "Apache Chukwa" is a suitable name

2012-12-09 Thread Alan Cabrera (JIRA)
Alan Cabrera created PODLINGNAMESEARCH-19:
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 Summary: Establish whether "Apache Chukwa" is a suitable name
 Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-19
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-19
 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search
  Issue Type: Suitable Name Search
Reporter: Alan Cabrera




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Re: Some missing things for the December report

2012-12-09 Thread Yegor Kozlov
I signed off the report for Openmeetings.

Yegor


On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> I took these notes yesterday, so please excuse me if some of these
> have been fixed.
>
> etch: no signoffs
>
> hcatalog: no report!
>
> kalumet: no report!
>
> openmeeting: no sign off, but who cares?
>
> wave: no signoffs
>
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Re: Some missing things for the December report

2012-12-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Benson Margulies  wrote:
> I took these notes yesterday, so please excuse me if some of these
> have been fixed.
>
> etch: no signoffs

Just did my signoff and added a personal observation:

  The processes in this podling are really like trying to pour molasses through
  a funnel in the winter. That said, I do think that the project is viable and
  an Apache community albeit a small, slow moving one. Given the nature of the
  project and its usage in automobile technology I don't think it will ever be
  as fast moving as a web or big data project. And that is not a bad thing for
  this type of software IMO.

Martijn

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