Re: [VOTE] Apache Ambari 1.2.2-incubating RC1

[Mahadev Konar]

+1 on the release.

One minor nit:

target/ directory is included in the source with rat.txt file.

Not a blocker for the release. We should probably add it in our docs
to make sure we ignore that next time.

thanks
mahadev


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Yusaku Sako  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have created the ambari-1.2.2-incubating-rc1 release candidate.
>
> I have run the rat tool and successfully deployed a 5-node cluster on RHEL
> 6.3 using the instructions available at:
> http://incubator.apache.org/ambari/1.2.2/installing-hadoop-using-ambari/content/index.html
>
> Critical fixes made since ambari-1.2.2-rc0 are:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1748: JDK option on the UI
> when used is not passed onto the global parameters
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1794: Add Host install retry
> shuts down all services in the cluster
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1795: Add Hosts - retrying
> install shows all progress bars in red and causes the wizard to get stuck
> on the progress page
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1815; After modifying custom
> configs, properties are shown as blank, leading to corrupt core-site.xml
> upon save
>
> SVN source tag:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ambari/tags/release-1.2.2-rc1
>
> Staging site:
> http://people.apache.org/~yusaku/ambari-1.2.2-incubating-rc1
>
> PGP release keys (signed using 3ABE18B3)
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4C3AA2723ABE18B3
>
> One can look into the issues fixed in this release at:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20AMBARI%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%221.2.2%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Resolved%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC
>
> Vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
>
> Here's my vote to start: +1 (binding)
>
> Yusaku

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Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 Mentor Registration

[Vinod Kone]

> Mesos (I)PMC,
>>
>> Please acknowledge my request to become a mentor for Google Summer of
>> Code 2013 projects for Apache
>> Mesos.
>>
>> My Melange username is vinodkone.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> -- Vinod
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear PMCs,
>>>
>>> I'm happy to announce that the ASF has made it onto the list of 177
>>> accepted organizations for
>>> Google Summer of Code 2013! [1,2]
>>>
>>> It is now time for the mentors to sign up, so please pass this email on
>>> to your community and podlings.
>>>
>>> Mentor signup requires two steps: mentor signup in Melange and PMC
>>> acknowledgement.
>>>
>>> If you want to mentor a project in this year's SoC you will have to
>>>
>>> 1. Be an Apache committer.
>>> 2. Register with Melange and set up a profile [3].
>>> 3. Add your username (formerly known as link_id) to [4]. This is NOT
>>> your email address but your
>>> Melange username. You can find it at the top of any page once you are
>>> logged in.
>>> 4. Request an acknowledgement from the PMC for which you want to mentor
>>> projects. Use the below
>>> template and do not forget to copy code-awa...@apache.org.
>>> 5. Once a PMC member acknowledges the request to mentor, and only then,
>>> go to [2] and click the
>>> "Start a connection" button.
>>>
>>> PMCs, read carefully please.
>>>
>>> We request that each mentor is acknowledged by a PMC member. This is to
>>> ensure the mentor is in good
>>> standing with the community. When you receive a request for
>>> acknowledgement, please ACK it and cc
>>> code-awa...@apache.org
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
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>>> 
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>>> cc: code-awa...@apache.org
>>> subject: GSoC 2013 mentor request for 
>>>
>>>  PMC,
>>>
>>> please acknowledge my request to become a mentor for Google Summer of
>>> Code 2013 projects for Apache
>>> .
>>>
>>> My Melange username is .
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>

Buttoning up the April Report

[Benson Margulies]

I need to be done with this by Friday AM EDT. if anyone badly wants
more time they can volunteer to do it.

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Ambari 1.2.2-incubating RC1

[Sumit Mohanty]

+1.

On 4/9/13 12:45 PM, "Srimanth Gunturi"  wrote:

>Vote +1
>
>
>On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Yusaku Sako 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have created the ambari-1.2.2-incubating-rc1 release candidate.
>>
>> I have run the rat tool and successfully deployed a 5-node cluster on
>>RHEL
>> 6.3 using the instructions available at:
>>
>> 
>>http://incubator.apache.org/ambari/1.2.2/installing-hadoop-using-ambari/c
>>ontent/index.html
>>
>> Critical fixes made since ambari-1.2.2-rc0 are:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1748: JDK option on the UI
>> when used is not passed onto the global parameters
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1794: Add Host install
>>retry
>> shuts down all services in the cluster
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1795: Add Hosts - retrying
>> install shows all progress bars in red and causes the wizard to get
>>stuck
>> on the progress page
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMBARI-1815; After modifying
>>custom
>> configs, properties are shown as blank, leading to corrupt core-site.xml
>> upon save
>>
>> SVN source tag:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ambari/tags/release-1.2.2-rc1
>>
>> Staging site:
>> http://people.apache.org/~yusaku/ambari-1.2.2-incubating-rc1
>>
>> PGP release keys (signed using 3ABE18B3)
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4C3AA2723ABE18B3
>>
>> One can look into the issues fixed in this release at:
>>
>> 
>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20AMBARI%20AND%2
>>0fixVersion%20%3D%20%221.2.2%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Resolved%20ORDER%2
>>0BY%20priority%20DESC
>>
>> Vote will be open for 72 hours.
>>
>> [ ] +1 approve
>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>>
>>
>> Here's my vote to start: +1 (binding)
>>
>> Yusaku
>>



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Re: [PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Greg Stein]

It is not your job. You are one of many of the IPMC.

You also happen to be the liaison to the Board.
On Apr 9, 2013 9:39 AM, "Benson Margulies"  wrote:

> I assume that you will take that role for this thread.
>
> Some people might claim that this is my job in general. However, my level
> of enthusiasm for trying to sweep up after the elephant depends on the
> elephant.  I think that the harder case is the one in which there is,
> apparently, no consensus. What we'd all like, I think, is to wind down the
> thread rather than leaving it hanging. However, it's not trivial to decide
> when we've learned that there's no consensus, and when all we've learned is
> that everyone is just busy with real life.
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Ross Gardler]

I think this should be adopted as best practice by all of us in all mailing
lists - no I don't do it any more than the next person :-(

Benson, it's not your job to do it - whatever others might say. Of course,
the odd reminder from you (and others) might help.

Ross


On 9 April 2013 14:39, Benson Margulies  wrote:

> I assume that you will take that role for this thread.
>
> Some people might claim that this is my job in general. However, my level
> of enthusiasm for trying to sweep up after the elephant depends on the
> elephant.  I think that the harder case is the one in which there is,
> apparently, no consensus. What we'd all like, I think, is to wind down the
> thread rather than leaving it hanging. However, it's not trivial to decide
> when we've learned that there's no consensus, and when all we've learned is
> that everyone is just busy with real life.
>



-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Upayavira]

This is an interesting idea. It does, however, assume that the person
who starts a thread is able to be sufficiently neutral to represent the
whole story, rather than their own particular take on it. Such
summarisation is something of an art.

Upayavira

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013, at 02:15 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> The amount of email on this list has grown beyond ridiculousness. I
> propose a new required process on this list whereby anyone who starts a
> new thread is required to diligently monitor it and post a summary at the
> end.  The person would assume an editor role for that thread.
> 
> [SUMMARY] Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority
> vote vs consensus)
> 
> The joyous occasion whereby all participants hold that their feelings
> have been honestly considered and a consensus has been arrived upon. 
> Here is the gist of the common view:
> 
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod
> tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim
> veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea
> commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate
> velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint
> occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
> mollit anim id est laborum.
> 
> This way, those of us who don't have the time to read threads whose post
> counts grow passed one hundred aren't on the hook to read all the drivel
> in order to keep up.  The summary must be kept at most a five sentence
> paragraph; please, no Henry James like prose.
> 
> It also has the added effect of keeping people who aren't committed to
> seeing an issue through from starting a thread to begin with.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> 

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Re: Bulldozing (was TL;DR editors)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Alan Cabrera  wrote:
> ...What I am more worried about is where some new procedure or policy is 
> enacted and there's no official notice...

We could use an [IMPORTANT] tag in the subject lines for such things -
but all policy changes require a [VOTE] anyway.

-Bertrand

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Re: Bulldozing (was TL;DR editors)

[Alan Cabrera]

On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Marvin Humphrey  wrote:

> IMO, it's time to enshrine this advice from Doug on the "email tips" page at
> :
> 
>http://markmail.org/message/viluvkt6x2dhj4iv

Ahh, if only that advice that was given over a year ago were followed.  I'm 
sure if you dig deeper you will find similar please further in the past.  :)

What I am more worried about is where some new procedure or policy is enacted 
and there's no official notice.  Summaries help would help me keep abreast of 
when real kernels of tasks come to fruition.


Regards,
Alan

Re: Bulldozing (was TL;DR editors)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marvin Humphrey  wrote:
> ...Or to create a "bulldozer detector" tool...

My bulldozer detector is that I stop reading. I'm probably not alone ;-)

-Bertrand

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Bulldozing (was TL;DR editors)

[Marvin Humphrey]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Alan Cabrera  wrote:
> The amount of email on this list has grown beyond ridiculousness.

> Thoughts?

We'd be fine if it weren't for a small number of participants "bulldozing" --
dominating a discussion by sheer volume of email.

IMO, it's time to enshrine this advice from Doug on the "email tips" page at
:

http://markmail.org/message/viluvkt6x2dhj4iv

Please do not feel obliged to answer every response to your messages here.
That does not scale well. There are a lot of people who read this list.
Each message sent is equivalent to taking the floor in a meeting with all
of these people in the room. Please pause to consider that before
responding or folks will start to leave this room.

A best practice on a list with this many members is to respond
thoughtfully on each thread just once per day. Try to keep your responses
short, sticking to the points which are most important to you. Then wait,
giving folks who might only read the list once a day a chance to respond
to each of your messages.  Use this time to gauge the general response of
the community. Then try to respond to the list as a whole rather than
individually to each member of the list.

It would be an interesting experiment to run general@ on a listserv
which throttled authors to one email per thread per day. :)

Or to create a "bulldozer detector" tool which parses an mbox and prints
summary data for each thread:

*   authors ranked by message count
*   authors ranked by word count

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Alan Cabrera  wrote:
> ...The amount of email on this list has grown beyond ridiculousness. I 
> propose a new required process on this list whereby anyone who starts a new 
> thread is required to diligently
> monitor it and post a summary at the end...

Good idea, I'd even ask for a summary at regular intervals, i.e. when
meaningful progress has been made in the discussion.

I'll also add that the shorter emails have the more chances of being
read, at least on this side of my screen.

And proposals for new things work much better on wiki pages, with
comments here and wiki edits as the discussion progresses.

-Bertrand

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Re: [PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Rich Bowen]

On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:

> Thoughts?


Oh, yes, please. If it even happened half the time it would be absolutely 
wonderful.

And I nominate Shane to be the default editor, because he's so very good at 
summarizing threads. ;-)

-- 
Rich Bowen
rbo...@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen
rbo...@apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Benson Margulies]

I assume that you will take that role for this thread.

Some people might claim that this is my job in general. However, my level
of enthusiasm for trying to sweep up after the elephant depends on the
elephant.  I think that the harder case is the one in which there is,
apparently, no consensus. What we'd all like, I think, is to wind down the
thread rather than leaving it hanging. However, it's not trivial to decide
when we've learned that there's no consensus, and when all we've learned is
that everyone is just busy with real life.

[PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

[Alan Cabrera]

The amount of email on this list has grown beyond ridiculousness. I propose a 
new required process on this list whereby anyone who starts a new thread is 
required to diligently monitor it and post a summary at the end.  The person 
would assume an editor role for that thread.

[SUMMARY] Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote 
vs consensus)

The joyous occasion whereby all participants hold that their feelings have been 
honestly considered and a consensus has been arrived upon.  Here is the gist of 
the common view:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor 
incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis 
nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. 
Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu 
fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in 
culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

This way, those of us who don't have the time to read threads whose post counts 
grow passed one hundred aren't on the hook to read all the drivel in order to 
keep up.  The summary must be kept at most a five sentence paragraph; please, 
no Henry James like prose.

It also has the added effect of keeping people who aren't committed to seeing 
an issue through from starting a thread to begin with.

Thoughts?


Regards,
Alan

RE: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator

[Srikanth Sundarrajan]

Thanks much. I have access to edit the page.
RegardsSrikanth Sundarrajan

> From: grobme...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:50:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> 
> Should work now, have fun
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan
>  wrote:
> > Wiki login: SrikanthSundarrajan
> > ThanksSrikanth Sundarrajan
> >
> >> From: grobme...@gmail.com
> >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:31:25 +0200
> >> Subject: Re: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>
> >> What is your Wiki-Name?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hi,Need access to wiki.apache.org/incubator to put up the quarterly 
> >> > board report for the Falcon podling. Can someone help?
> >> > RegardsSrikanth Sundarrajan
> >>
> >>
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Re: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator

[Christian Grobmeier]

Should work now, have fun

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan
 wrote:
> Wiki login: SrikanthSundarrajan
> ThanksSrikanth Sundarrajan
>
>> From: grobme...@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:31:25 +0200
>> Subject: Re: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>
>> What is your Wiki-Name?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi,Need access to wiki.apache.org/incubator to put up the quarterly 
>> > board report for the Falcon podling. Can someone help?
>> > RegardsSrikanth Sundarrajan
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator

[Srikanth Sundarrajan]

Wiki login: SrikanthSundarrajan
ThanksSrikanth Sundarrajan

> From: grobme...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:31:25 +0200
> Subject: Re: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> 
> What is your Wiki-Name?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan
>  wrote:
> > Hi,Need access to wiki.apache.org/incubator to put up the quarterly 
> > board report for the Falcon podling. Can someone help?
> > RegardsSrikanth Sundarrajan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator

[Christian Grobmeier]

What is your Wiki-Name?

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan
 wrote:
> Hi,Need access to wiki.apache.org/incubator to put up the quarterly board 
> report for the Falcon podling. Can someone help?
> RegardsSrikanth Sundarrajan



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Access to wiki.apache.org/incubator

[Srikanth Sundarrajan]

Hi,Need access to wiki.apache.org/incubator to put up the quarterly board 
report for the Falcon podling. Can someone help?
RegardsSrikanth Sundarrajan