Re: April report filed
You could add an {acl} entry to the top of the page restricting write
access to AdminGroup - that'd achieve making it read-only.
Upayavira
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 03:53 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
wrote:
Does http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2013 match what was reported
to the board?
No, because people persist in modifying the wiki after I submit it --
this
is a much more prevalent action than last-minute commits into the
official
board agenda.
Perhaps we need a disclaimer that the wiki is just a scratchpad and not
'for the record', or perhaps we need a way to make the report pages
read-only once the submission happens, or perhaps we need people to read
my
email when I announce when I'm going to post the report.
If not would someone update the wiki?
I ask because there are podlings like ODF Toolkit that did not report.
Some action is needed on our part.
Regards,
Dave
On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
No problem you got it!
Just didn't want to step on anyone's toes.
Adding now!
Cheers,
Chris
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-Original Message-
From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:46 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: April report filed
In case that sounded harsh, which was not intended:
I have a meeting in 15 minutes that i Need to prepare for, and then I'm
off
to go home, collect my entourage, and go to the airport to fly to
Portland.
So I'd be _grateful_ if you'd commit it yourself.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:
Chris,
You have access to commit to the board agenda, so why don't you just
put
it there yourself?
--benson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hey Benson et al.,
Sorry I will get the Climate report on the wiki in the next few hours.
If possible, I would like it to be included in this month's report.
Sorry about it being late.
Cheers,
Chris
++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++
-Original Message-
From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:59 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: April report filed
I committed the April report. Since no one added any releases to this
report, there are no releases listed. I removed the mention of Onami
as
graduating since there is no motion to establish an Onami PMC on the
agenda. If someone adds one please add it to the Incubator repot
header.
There is no report for Open Climate Workshop; there might be other
missing
reports.
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Re: April report filed
On Apr 20, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Does http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2013 match what was reported to the board? No, because people persist in modifying the wiki after I submit it -- this is a much more prevalent action than last-minute commits into the official board agenda. Perhaps we need a disclaimer that the wiki is just a scratchpad and not 'for the record', or perhaps we need a way to make the report pages read-only once the submission happens, or perhaps we need people to read my email when I announce when I'm going to post the report. It all seemed very rushed. Perhaps we need a clearer schedule in advance. You seem to have abandoned shepherd appointments. My real issue has nothing to do with whether changes were made before or after and is more to do with my surprise that the board accepted such an incomplete report. There was nothing much written about the state of various podlings. Nothing was mentioned about podlings like ODF Toolkit's failure to report. We should make a better effort for May. We should ask ODF Toolkit to report out of cycle. Regards, DAve If not would someone update the wiki? I ask because there are podlings like ODF Toolkit that did not report. Some action is needed on our part. Regards, Dave On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: No problem you got it! Just didn't want to step on anyone's toes. Adding now! Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:46 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: April report filed In case that sounded harsh, which was not intended: I have a meeting in 15 minutes that i Need to prepare for, and then I'm off to go home, collect my entourage, and go to the airport to fly to Portland. So I'd be _grateful_ if you'd commit it yourself. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: Chris, You have access to commit to the board agenda, so why don't you just put it there yourself? --benson On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hey Benson et al., Sorry I will get the Climate report on the wiki in the next few hours. If possible, I would like it to be included in this month's report. Sorry about it being late. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:59 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: April report filed I committed the April report. Since no one added any releases to this report, there are no releases listed. I removed the mention of Onami as graduating since there is no motion to establish an Onami PMC on the agenda. If someone adds one please add it to the Incubator repot header. There is no report for Open Climate Workshop; there might be other missing reports. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: April report filed
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 20, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Does http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2013 match what was reported to the board? No, because people persist in modifying the wiki after I submit it -- this is a much more prevalent action than last-minute commits into the official board agenda. Perhaps we need a disclaimer that the wiki is just a scratchpad and not 'for the record', or perhaps we need a way to make the report pages read-only once the submission happens, or perhaps we need people to read my email when I announce when I'm going to post the report. It all seemed very rushed. Perhaps we need a clearer schedule in advance. A series of reminders go out via Marvin long in advance. And then, a few days before the board's deadline, I state the latest possible time for me to post it to svn to give people as much time as possible. I wait until very late in the cycle to create commentary in the front so that (a) the rest of the community gets the first opportunity to create that content, and (b) it can reflect the content of the late-arriving podling reports. Some people are on the record as feeling that the reminder/notification/deadline process for podling reports asks for the reports too soon as things are. I very much doubt that reminding all and and sundry of the eventual board deadline one more time per month will change any behavior. You seem to have abandoned shepherd appointments. Yup. The community took a strong position that I should not appoint shepherds -- that shepherding should self-organize. My real issue has nothing to do with whether changes were made before or after and is more to do with my surprise that the board accepted such an incomplete report. I can't speak for the board's taste in reports. There was nothing much written about the state of various podlings. Nothing was mentioned about podlings like ODF Toolkit's failure to report. I could dig you out specific commentary from community members (I think including at least one current board member) to the effect that the best way to report that a podling didn't report was to simply have the report contain their lack of a report. We should make a better effort for May. We should ask ODF Toolkit to report out of cycle. By all means, send them a poke to that effect. Regards, DAve If not would someone update the wiki? I ask because there are podlings like ODF Toolkit that did not report. Some action is needed on our part. Regards, Dave On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: No problem you got it! Just didn't want to step on anyone's toes. Adding now! Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:46 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: April report filed In case that sounded harsh, which was not intended: I have a meeting in 15 minutes that i Need to prepare for, and then I'm off to go home, collect my entourage, and go to the airport to fly to Portland. So I'd be _grateful_ if you'd commit it yourself. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: Chris, You have access to commit to the board agenda, so why don't you just put it there yourself? --benson On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hey Benson et al., Sorry I will get the Climate report on the wiki in the next few hours. If possible, I would like it to be included in this month's report. Sorry about it being late. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los
