Re: [Incubator Wiki] Update of HotdoGProposal by H. Joe Lee

2013-05-01 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Benson,

HDF Group is a growing research industry originally seeded by NASA
investments
and now privately funded. HDF is the de facto scientific data file format
for
NASA, NOAA and other remote sensing missions.

There are huge communities of people that use this software. The HDF group
would like to use this opportunity to experiment with the Apache
Incubator
model after lots of prodding by people like me to get more scientific
projects
into Apache and to steward them here.

While this project may be specific it has the opportunity to grow into a
host
of other downstream, very useful tools and capabilities, and furthermore,
HDF Group
has a ton of other software that could be potentially stewarded at the
ASF, provided
this experiment is useful.

Hope that clarifies.

Cheers,
Chris

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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-Original Message-
From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Monday, April 29, 2013 4:29 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Incubator Wiki] Update of HotdoGProposal by H. Joe Lee

I have some qualms about this as a stand-alone project. It's a conversion
tool between two defined formats. You will build it, it will get done, and
then what? What will keep a community engaged? If would make more sense to
imaging some project that was in the business of building and maintaining
a
suite of related tools, where new things could be expected to come up.



On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Apache Wiki wikidi...@apache.org wrote:

 Dear Wiki user,

 You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Incubator Wiki
 for change notification.

 The HotdoGProposal page has been changed by H. Joe Lee:
 
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal?action=diffrev1=9rev2=1
0

   = Background =
   = Rationale =

 -   The HEG tool is limited to some NASA HDF-EOS2 products and it is not
 an open-source tool. The latest GDAL (version 1.9.2 and above) is an
 open-source tool but it cannot handle many non-HDF-EOS NASA HDF products
 such as TRMM (pure HDF4) and Aquarius (pure HDF5) correctly with correct
 coordinate system.
 + The HEG tool is limited to some NASA HDF-EOS2 products and it is not
an
 open-source tool. The latest GDAL (version 1.9.2 and above) is an
 open-source tool but it cannot handle many non-HDF-EOS NASA HDF products
 such as TRMM (pure HDF4) and Aquarius (pure HDF5) correctly with correct
 coordinate system.

   = Initial Goals =
 +
 + We'll improve GDAL to support NASA HDF products better by handling
 geo-location information correctly and automatically.
 +
   = Current Status =
 +
 + We're looking for developers and sponsors.
 +
   == Meritocracy ==
   == Community ==
 +
 + GIS and Earth Science
 +
   == Core developers ==
* H. Joe Lee hyoklee AT hdfgroup DOT org

 @@ -42, +51 @@

 * http://wiki.apache.org/HotdoG

   = Initial Committers =
 +
   = Affiliations =
* H. Joe Lee (The HDF Group)

 @@ -51, +61 @@

* Mike Folk - The HDF Group

   = Sponsors =
 +
   == Champion ==
* Paul Ramirez paul DOT m DOT ramirez AT jpl DOT nasa DOT gov


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread sebb
On 1 May 2013 06:03, Jordan Zimmerman jor...@jordanzimmerman.com wrote:

 Hello,

 This is a vote to release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

 Link to release notes:
 * no release notes as this is the initial release *


However, there is a CHANGES file which details lots of previous releases -
what's that about?
Should be explained in the release notes - which can accompany any release,
even the first.

Staging repo:
 http://people.apache.org/~randgalt/staging/

 Binary artifacts:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecurator-157/org/apache/curator/


Where is the SVN or GIT tag?

Impossible to review fully without one.

The NOTICE files look odd - there is some spurious leading space on all but
the first line.


The Curator website needs a prominent Disclaimer.


 Vote will be open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] 0
 [ ] -1 (explain why)

 Thank you.

 -The Curator Team


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
Oops - that's a vestige from the Netflix source. I should remove it.

-JZ

 However, there is a CHANGES file which details lots of previous releases -
 what's that about?
 Should be explained in the release notes - which can accompany any release,
 even the first.


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Chip Childers
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03:05PM -0700, Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is a vote to release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating
 
 Link to release notes:
 * no release notes as this is the initial release *
 
 Staging repo:
 http://people.apache.org/~randgalt/staging/
 
 Binary artifacts:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecurator-157/org/apache/curator/
 
 Vote will be open for 72 hours.
 
 [ ] +1
 [ ] 0
 [ ] -1 (explain why)
 
 Thank you.
 
 -The Curator Team

This message isn't clear...  Did Curator hold a vote internally yet?
If so, it's usually good to include a reference to that VOTE RESULT
thread when sharing with general@i.a.o.  It's also useful to reference
any IPMC votes that you may have gotten during that initial vote for
reference.

I'm not sure if any of the above is technically required, but it a nice
to have IMO.

-chip

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
 This message isn't clear...  Did Curator hold a vote internally yet?
 If so, it's usually good to include a reference to that VOTE RESULT
 thread when sharing with general@i.a.o.  It's also useful to reference
 any IPMC votes that you may have gotten during that initial vote for
 reference.
 
 I'm not sure if any of the above is technically required, but it a nice
 to have IMO.

Thanks - I'm new to this ;)

Yes, there was an internal vote. IPMC members Luciano Resende and Patrick Hunt 
both approved of putting the vote to the @general list. I did a search in the 
archives and now see the correct format. I'll send out another VOTE email with 
the updated info.

-Jordan
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[VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
Hello,

The Apache Curator PPMC has voted on Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating and 
received 2 binding votes from IPMC members:

 - Luciano Resende (*)
 - Patrick Hunt (*)

Link to release notes:
* no release notes as this is the initial release * (please ignore the CHANGES 
file that was accidentally left in from the old Netflix source)

Staging repo:
http://people.apache.org/~randgalt/staging/

Binary artifacts:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecurator-157/org/apache/curator/

Vote will be open for 72 hours.

[ ] +1
[ ] 0
[ ] -1 (explain why)

Thank you.

-The Curator Team

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Chip Childers
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
  This message isn't clear...  Did Curator hold a vote internally yet?
  If so, it's usually good to include a reference to that VOTE RESULT
  thread when sharing with general@i.a.o.  It's also useful to reference
  any IPMC votes that you may have gotten during that initial vote for
  reference.
  
  I'm not sure if any of the above is technically required, but it a nice
  to have IMO.
 
 Thanks - I'm new to this ;)

Sure - we've all been there (or at least I have).

 
 Yes, there was an internal vote. IPMC members Luciano Resende and Patrick 
 Hunt both approved of putting the vote to the @general list. I did a search 
 in the archives and now see the correct format. I'll send out another VOTE 
 email with the updated info.

Since those votes occurred, you are starting the i.a.o voting process
with 2 +1 votes already.  That's why I asked.

You may want to solicit feedback still via this thread.  At least
there's the question of the CHANGES file that was raised.  Not sure it's
a blocker for release, but it's a question that was raised.

If you *do* want to cancel this thread, please be sure to reply to the
initial VOTE email with a [CANCEL] before [VOTE] in the subject.  This
keeps the IPMC's vote tracking page [1] up to date.

-chip

[1] http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html

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[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
Canceling this vote due to noob errors. I'll start a new thread.

-JZ

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman

On May 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote:

 You may want to solicit feedback still via this thread.  At least
 there's the question of the CHANGES file that was raised.  Not sure it's
 a blocker for release, but it's a question that was raised.

I think it's better if people vote -1 due to the CHANGES file as I'll need to 
build a new release. I'm hoping folks will let the CHANGES file slide on this 
release, though. 

-JZ

[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
I've completely misunderstood this process and need to take this back to 
curator-dev. 

FYI

-Jordan
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Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-01 Thread Patrick Hunt
Hi Jordan, re the voting process see:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-incubator-release-vote

Also the other links to how to release type pages for other
incubator projects. It will give you insight into the process and
things like templates for emails and such. I think I forwarded you
that previously, if you're having troubles with it let me or one of
the other mentors know.

Patrick

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Jordan Zimmerman
jor...@jordanzimmerman.com wrote:
 Canceling this vote due to noob errors. I'll start a new thread.

 -JZ

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How to report without a wiki ...

2013-05-01 Thread Benson Margulies
If anyone feels that they urgently want to start on the May report right
now, I can create the template and check it into svn. Otherwise I'm going
to give it until the weekend at least.


Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread sebb
Next time please provide a link to the tag in the source code control
system.

That's needed to trace provenance of the files in the source release.


On 1 May 2013 19:02, Jordan Zimmerman jor...@jordanzimmerman.com wrote:

 I've completely misunderstood this process and need to take this back to
 curator-dev.

 FYI

 -Jordan
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Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Next time please provide a link to the tag in the source code control
 system.

 That's needed to trace provenance of the files in the source release.


While we are at it, a link to your project's KEYS file would be
helpful as well.

--David

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Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
 While we are at it, a link to your project's KEYS file would be
 helpful as well.

Just unzip the archive. ;)

Curator folks, please find another way to distribute the KEYS file.
Distributing it embedded in the source archive is worthless at best.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
That was (yet another) misunderstanding on my part. The KEYS are now in the 
standard (?) location:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/curator/KEYS

On May 1, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
 While we are at it, a link to your project's KEYS file would be
 helpful as well.
 
 Just unzip the archive. ;)
 
 Curator folks, please find another way to distribute the KEYS file.
 Distributing it embedded in the source archive is worthless at best.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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RE: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Four suggestions:

 1. Add a UID having your Apache ID, randgalt@ apache.org, in that PGP 
public-key certificate.  You can indicate that it is your preference for code 
signing, if you desire.

 2. Log into your randgalt@ a.o profile at https://id.apache.org/ and provide 
the fingerprint of your key as part of your profile.  This will accomplish two 
things: (1) It establishes that the fingerprint was provided by someone having 
the ASF credentials for randgalt@ a.o; (2) it causes the public key to be added 
to a secure location as file 
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/randgalt.asc.  That file is 
regularly synchronized with PGP key services and confirms that it is the key 
provided by randgalt@ in step (1) and also reflects (web-of-trust) 
certifications of that key by others as well as any revocation if that becomes 
necessary.

 3. BONUS RECOMMENDATION.  Do not put a copy of the public key in the 
repository.  Instead, put a link to 
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/randgalt.asc there, if desired.  If 
it is in a file called KEYS, update the instructions to refer to the locations 
in the committer keys folder.  (If there will be many release managers and 
signers in the future, you can instead instruct users to obtain all Curator 
committer keys from https://people.apache.org/keys/group/curator.asc once 
Curator becomes an ASF top-level project.)

 4. GRAND PRIZE RECOMMENDATION.  For all external signatures that you create, 
add to the ascii-armored signature text (outside of the armor) a link to 
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/randgalt.asc.

The idea is to use access to your Apache profile as an additional factor beyond 
your self-signing of the certificate and any web-of-trust certifications of 
your certificate.  It also lets those non-ASF folk who desire to verify 
signatures know whose signature the verification is expected to confirm and 
that the signer is an ASF committer.

 - Dennis

 
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From: Jordan Zimmerman [mailto:jor...@jordanzimmerman.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 13:39
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

That was (yet another) misunderstanding on my part. The KEYS are now in the 
standard (?) location:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/curator/KEYS

On May 1, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
 While we are at it, a link to your project's KEYS file would be
 helpful as well.
 
 Just unzip the archive. ;)
 
 Curator folks, please find another way to distribute the KEYS file.
 Distributing it embedded in the source archive is worthless at best.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: improve podling management and status information

2013-05-01 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote:
 There is still some duplication of information for the status
 of each podling between the main file [1] and each podling
 status web page. We also need each podling to take more care
 of their status metadata. 
 
 One aspect is the Sponsor/Champion/Mentors information.
 
 To reduce this duplication and out-of-date-ness, each podling
 status page could simply link to the central information,
 rather than repeat that in their status page.
 
 e.g.
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/#allura
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/#devicemap
 
 That page is automatically generated whenever someone
 edits the metadata summary file [1].
 (Which then need to be committed too.)
 
 There is also a very important past discussion that did
 already address many other aspects of the management of
 the projects. We still need to implement that.

Here is one thread. Go deeper into that thread where there
is discussion about fixing various aspects.

Subject: incubator is a single group
Date: 2011-11-11 07:58:50 GMT
http://s.apache.org/Ow0

 [1] 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml  

 -David

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Incubator PMC/Board report for May 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-05-01 Thread Marvin


Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator 
PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:30:00:00 PST. The 
report 
for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator 
PMC 
requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow 
sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, May 1st).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report
--

Your report should contain the following:

 * Your project name
 * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the 
project
   or necessarily of its field
 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
   graduation.
 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
 * How has the community developed since the last report
 * How has the project developed since the last report.
 
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013

Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
  created from a template.

Mentors
---
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC


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Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating (updated)

2013-05-01 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
 1. Add a UID having your Apache ID, randgalt@ apache.org, in that PGP 
 public-key certificate.  You can indicate that it is your preference for code 
 signing, if you desire.
That UID is there already. Can you explain what's missing?

 2. Log into your randgalt@ a.o profile at https://id.apache.org/ and 
 provide the fingerprint of your key as part of your profile.
done

 3. BONUS RECOMMENDATION.  Do not put a copy of the public key in the 
 repository.
Already removed. My .asc file should show up in /keys/committer/ soon.

 4. GRAND PRIZE RECOMMENDATION.  For all external signatures that you create, 
 add to the ascii-armored signature text (outside of the armor) a link to 
 https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/randgalt.asc.
No comprende. I'll research how to do this.

-JZ
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Re: How to report without a wiki ...

2013-05-01 Thread Dave Fisher
I'll ask ODF Toolkit to report since they missed.

Sent from my iPhone

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