Re: Creating announce@ lists by default
Hey Marvin, Did you get anywhere with this? Thanks, On 30 March 2013 15:39, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see if I can > > come up with a patch for the docs. > > The obvious place to patch is the descriptive paragraph here: > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-mailing-lists > > However, I question whether decisions about mailing lists should be made by > the small group that typically works up a proposal. Why not start off with > just a dev list and have the entire community participate in discussions > about > what additional mailing lists to add? > > * Do we need a user@ list yet? > * Where should commit notifications be sent? > * Where should issue tracker notifications be sent? > * Should we add an announce@ list? > > These questions all have interesting implications with regard to community > dynamics, and I think it would benefit podlings to be considering them > early > on. > > So, I'd like to propose a page describing the various mailing list choices > that top-level Apache projects have made and the tradeoffs, which I > volunteer > to write and which I think ought to live on community.a.o rather than > incubator.a.o. > > Once that page is live, I propose that we modify the proposal template so > that > the default is only a dev list. Mailing list expansion then becomes part > of > the incubation curriculum, along with code import, header change, > preparation > of a release management procedure, making a release, recruiting new > contributors/committers/PMC-members, and so on. > > Marvin Humphrey > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- NS
Re: marvin report reminders
Alan Cabrera wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Alan Cabrera wrote: > >> > >> Does anyone know where the Marvin code bits live? > > > > At > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/ > > > > There are various discussions in the Incubator archives about how the > > data lists (for mail addresses for each project due to report each month) > > are currently generated. > > > > Now that mail list names are more consistent for newer podlings, some of > > that > > process could be handled outside of Clutch. > > So the process is by naming convention rather than explicit declarations? For the old stuck projects, Clutch gathers various hints about their dev mail list addresses. For the recently entered podlings, i gather that it is always "dev@podling". Clutch also makes sure that each list is operational, otherwise it uses the general@ list for that podling (which unfortunately misses the project's name). Sorry, no time now. This local search gave plenty of hits on previous and more detailed explanations of the process: mairix a:incubator,general f:crossley report,generated,clutch -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: A lot of reports missing these period
Mahadev Konar wrote: > David, > Doesnt it send an email to the dev mailing list? Yes it does send to each podling's dev list. Please see the data list referenced below. The additional summary that goes to the IPMC private list shows the set of delivery addresses, which does include those that Marvin is being blamed for. -David > David Crossley wrote: > > > > Marvin sends a summary to IPMC private@ list. It did include both > > MRQL and Ambari. > > > > They are listed in this summary (generated from content/podlings.xml): > > http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt > > and in this month's data list: > > http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_2.txt > > > > -David > > > > Benson Margulies wrote: > > > We should make sure the front of the report indicates the Marvin Mishap. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mahadev Konar > > wrote: > > > > Similar with Ambari. I dont think we saw a Marvin notice for May. > > > > > > > > Should we send out a report the next months Board Report? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > mahadev > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alan Cabrera > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Alan > > > >> > > > >> On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Folks, > > > >> > > > > >> > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > > > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > > >> > > > > >> > Ambari > > > >> > Blur > > > >> > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) > > > >> > Droids > > > >> > Falcon > > > >> > Hadoop Development Tools > > > >> > MRQL > > > >> > Open Climate Workbench > > > >> > Provisionr > > > >> > Tajo > > > >> > Tez > > > >> > > > > >> > Please mentors of these projects catch up with your podlings. > > > >> > > > > >> > Cheers > > > >> > Christian > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: A lot of reports missing these period
David, Doesnt it send an email to the dev mailing list? thanks mahadev On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Marvin sends a summary to IPMC private@ list. It did include both > MRQL and Ambari. > > They are listed in this summary (generated from content/podlings.xml): > http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt > and in this month's data list: > http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_2.txt > > -David > > Benson Margulies wrote: > > We should make sure the front of the report indicates the Marvin Mishap. > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mahadev Konar > wrote: > > > Similar with Ambari. I dont think we saw a Marvin notice for May. > > > > > > Should we send out a report the next months Board Report? > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > mahadev > > > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alan Cabrera > wrote: > > > > > >> How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Alan > > >> > > >> On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Folks, > > >> > > > >> > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > >> > > > >> > Ambari > > >> > Blur > > >> > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) > > >> > Droids > > >> > Falcon > > >> > Hadoop Development Tools > > >> > MRQL > > >> > Open Climate Workbench > > >> > Provisionr > > >> > Tajo > > >> > Tez > > >> > > > >> > Please mentors of these projects catch up with your podlings. > > >> > > > >> > Cheers > > >> > Christian > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: A lot of reports missing these period
Marvin sends a summary to IPMC private@ list. It did include both MRQL and Ambari. They are listed in this summary (generated from content/podlings.xml): http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt and in this month's data list: http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_2.txt -David Benson Margulies wrote: > We should make sure the front of the report indicates the Marvin Mishap. > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mahadev Konar wrote: > > Similar with Ambari. I dont think we saw a Marvin notice for May. > > > > Should we send out a report the next months Board Report? > > > > > > thanks > > mahadev > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > > > >> How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Alan > >> > >> On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Folks, > >> > > >> > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > >> > > >> > Ambari > >> > Blur > >> > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) > >> > Droids > >> > Falcon > >> > Hadoop Development Tools > >> > MRQL > >> > Open Climate Workbench > >> > Provisionr > >> > Tajo > >> > Tez > >> > > >> > Please mentors of these projects catch up with your podlings. > >> > > >> > Cheers > >> > Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: A lot of reports missing these period
We should make sure the front of the report indicates the Marvin Mishap. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mahadev Konar wrote: > Similar with Ambari. I dont think we saw a Marvin notice for May. > > Should we send out a report the next months Board Report? > > > thanks > mahadev > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > >> How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> >> > Folks, >> > >> > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! >> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 >> > >> > Ambari >> > Blur >> > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) >> > Droids >> > Falcon >> > Hadoop Development Tools >> > MRQL >> > Open Climate Workbench >> > Provisionr >> > Tajo >> > Tez >> > >> > Please mentors of these projects catch up with your podlings. >> > >> > Cheers >> > Christian >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[ANNOUNCE] Release Curator 2.0.0-incubating released
Hello, The Apache Curator team is pleased to announce the release of version 2.0.0-incubating from the Apache Incubator. Curator was originally open sourced by Netflix via Github. This is the first Apache release of Curator. I'd like to thank the mentors for their help in getting to this milestone. In particular, Patrick Hunt and Luciano Resende have been incredibly helpful and patient. Link to release notes: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CURATOR#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Achangelog-panel The most recent source release can be obtained from an Apache Mirror: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/curator/ (mirror sync times may vary) The binary artifacts for Curator are available from Maven Central and its mirrors. For general information on Apache Curator, please visit the project website: http://curator.incubator.apache.org Disclaimer: Apache Curator is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Incubator PMC. Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF. -Jordan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: A lot of reports missing these period
Similar with Ambari. I dont think we saw a Marvin notice for May. Should we send out a report the next months Board Report? thanks mahadev On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. > > > Regards, > Alan > > On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > > > Ambari > > Blur > > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) > > Droids > > Falcon > > Hadoop Development Tools > > MRQL > > Open Climate Workbench > > Provisionr > > Tajo > > Tez > > > > Please mentors of these projects catch up with your podlings. > > > > Cheers > > Christian > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] S4 0.6.0 Incubating Release Candidate 5
+1 verified sigs built code, tools and ran tests rat check passed Thanks, Kishore G On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: > Hello, > > this is the *fifth* release candidate for Apache S4, version 0.6.0 > > We fixed 2 blocking issues wrt RC1, related to s4 tools, 1 blocking issue > in RC2, related to metrics logging configuration, issues related to the > package contents and license headers in RC3, and removed included javadoc > files in RC4. > > > > This release fixes the following issues: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12312322&version=12321702 > > > *** Please download, test and vote by Thursday, May 9th 2013, 13:00:00 GMT > *** > > > Note that we are voting upon the source (tag). > > > Source package in zip format: > > http://people.apache.org/~mmorel/s4-0.6.0-incubating-release-candidate-5/ > > > > The (git) tag to be voted upon: 0.6.0-RC5: > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-s4.git;a=tree;h=8b43b317104cfc9ebc42f6e8ec9c9557867155aa;hb=2f474503e2da111601bb92ca7186c136ba28e5b0 > > > > S4 KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/s4/dist/KEYS > > > The README.md file contains instructions for installing the gradle wrapper > (which is not shipped with the source release). > > > We include a RAT check task. (Can be used by fetching rat from /lib dir in > the git repo and using the .rat-excludes file at the root of the git repo) > > It can be run with : > gradlew rat > output > > > Please cast your vote, thanks! > > > [ ] +1 approve > [ ] +0 no opinion > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > > NOTES: > > - All releases by podlings must be approved by the Incubator PMC. The > conventional process is for the podling to follow the usual Apache process > and then call for a Incubator PMC VOTE on the general incubator list. > For RC5 however, following recommendations from our mentors, we are > proceeding to a parallel vote on both general@incubator and s4-dev > >
Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating (2nd RC)
Hi Ant, thanks for the vote :-) Regarding the NOTICE file, specifically which comments? Right now has 4 entries, being the reasons behind each one: - fckconfig.js entry: published under MPL 2.0, so it requires to be in NOTICE - "Portions of this code donated by BaseN Corporation." entry: legal's advice [#1] was to keep this entry in NOTICE - SilkIconSet entry: published under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License, which in section 4.b states "If you distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work or any Derivative Works or Collective Works, You must keep intact all copyright notices [...]" - Slimbox: published under MIT license so shouldn't be there, as pointed in [#2]. However, as it's been modified, I thought of it as a derivative work and, it fell under section 4.d of the AL "You may add Your own attribution notices within Derivative Works that You distribute, alongside or as an addendum to the NOTICE text from the Work, provided that such additional attribution notices cannot be construed as modifying the License." Please note that I'm not saying they *should* be there, only why they are there. If there's anything wrong on that file we'll correct it ASAP (btw, a handy way to check if other projects are including specifics entries in NOTICE files for 3rd party libraries is to search for an specific dependency at [#4] and then checking the svn's NOTICE file of the projects using it) Regarding the missing DISCLAIMER, our distribution target didn't catch it. It's already fixed on trunk, although our plan is release 2.9.1 in order to start graduation discuss soon thereafter. @general: aside from Ant's vote, we've got another couple of votes at jspwiki-dev, so the tally right now is 5PPMC +1 votes, 1 +1 IPMC vote br, juan pablo [#1]: http://s.apache.org/7Hs [#2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps [#3]: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#redistribution [#4]: https://analysis.apache.org/dependencies/index On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:15 AM, ant elder wrote: > Hi JSPWiki, I'm from the Incubator PMC and looking at your release. > > I give it a +1. > > There are a couple of nits. One is that it looks like the Incubation > DISCLAIMER text is missing from the binary zip. It is there in the > source artifact and tag though and we've let releases go with these > missing before so i don't think this is a blocker, fix it next time, > or better, graduate from the Incubator now so its not needed next > time. The NOTICE file still has some comments that probably aren't > needed there and they could be moved somewhere else like the README. > Again many Incubator releases have similar issues so i don't think > that should be a blocker and i can help you get that updated for the > next release. > >...ant > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev for a 2nd RC of Apache JSPWiki > > 2.9.1-incubating [#1]. > > > > The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the > > developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have 3 non-binding > > votes (from jspwiki developers). > > > > I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release > > candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira > Issue > > Tracker [#2]. > > > > Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on the > > vote. > > > > thanks in advance, > > juan pablo > > > > > > [#1] http://s.apache.org/UDD > > [#2] > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732&version=12321249 > > === > > > > Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed > > artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only. > > > > The tag to be voted upon: > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc2 > > > > Source and binary files, with RAT report: > > http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-4-rc2/ > > > > Checksums: > > > > JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-bin.zip > > MD5:58b7e2fd9290612762825683e81ca22d > > SHA1: 5eb4cfa7c7b00e2a002573c72f1e83c15f708e2b > > SHA512: > > > 0e1487d09044e0ce900194b42ff3e465ee96ebde1a75c0603715ec42bbf425b950c901bff87bbadf43173d3c91ced170ab0eebe4525706344642e68db069ba18 > > > > JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-src.zip > > MD5:707b52ce9ca32fe012bcc3b1a79d8f96 > > SHA1: 41619359a04d49a2f5b58b8ba1a5d0c186fbbb1c > > SHA512: > > > 2c4f6e0b9e163d2b3ae60a091993598ed6e315a7f7b4c08a9232cbd0c1eccba4259818e0e9ab8a86350a0109924be21cc0627e8a549bbd52b14ca7b40dcccee0 > > > > JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release: > > http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS > > > > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating > > [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release > > [ ] -1 Do
[RESULT][VOTE] Release Curator 2.0.0-incubating
Hello, The vote to release Curator 2.0.0-incubating has passed. +1 (PPMC / binding): * Patrick Hunt * Luciano Resende * Enis Söztutar As this is Curator's first release, I'll work with the mentors today to make sure the artifacts are released correctly. An announcement email will follow. -Jordan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC
Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity On 8 May 2013 02:20, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: > > ...I've made a proposal for giving the IPMC teeth but it hasn't gained > > support.. > > URL? Sorry, working from mobile device while travelling. I proposed creating a board like structure and formalising shepherd role. Very similar to Chris' proposal but leaving overhead with IPMC rather than moving to board. > > > ...In the absence of something else with teeth then I'm +1 for > > probationary TLPs as proposed by Chris as long as we stop accepting > > projects that are likely to run into problems according to our > > collective experience > > If you're able to find out that a podling will cause problems in the > future, or that its mentors will become inactive, maybe I should hire > you for this lottery betting club ;-) > Hehe - fair comment. I was thinking, for example, of BlueSky - the archives show my concern that was ignored and ultimately shown to be right. A counter example is OpenMeetings who addressed my concerns, came back and graduated quickly and smoothly. I'm not suggesting its always possible to get it right, but I do think we can be more rigorous in general. > Apart from that I agree that the board doesn't have cycles to handle > problematic podlings or missing mentors, and as a result whatever > actions it would take would be much harsher than what we do here. > That's the more important point. Ross > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
