Re: YAMP to fix the Incubator (*)
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Thanks can you please identify how my proposal isn't granular? It suggests next steps about 5 of them and then lists shifts in responsibility around 10 or more of then with applicable next steps. I believe the idea is to make an overview of all problems and suggestion on one page. You have made it similar granular, but you are focusing on your point of view, while Bertrands document wants to highlight all the different opinions (including yours). Cheers Christian Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tuesday, May 14, 2013, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: hahhahha, done! http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013#Issue_08_-_The_IPMC_is _broken thanks - although I don't share your views about the brokenness of the Incubator (hence YAMP to have a more granular view on things), having all the suggestions for change in a single place should help build consensus on what we actually want to do. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: YAMP to fix the Incubator (*)
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: ...Thanks can you please identify how my proposal isn't granular? It suggests next steps about 5 of them and then lists shifts in responsibility around 10 or more of then with applicable next steps The deconstruct the Incubator title makes me see your proposal as an all-or-nothing thing. I'm more in favor of small, reversible steps. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
The Only Thing Wrong - Execution of Process
Hi - I've been incredibly busy, but to me the main thing wrong in the Incubator is focusing on what might be wrong rather than executing on the process we already have (or had). Shepherds worked when they were assigned at random by the IPMC chair well in advance of the report. This helps to focus on the actual podling reports. They don't work when self-selected. Rather than discussing specific issues with podlings that are mentor-less or report-less we are engaging in distracting discussions. Can we please just execute on reporting for the first two weeks of every month? Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: The Only Thing Wrong - Execution of Process
I think there's some good ideas here. You should capture them in http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013 Regards, Alan On May 15, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - I've been incredibly busy, but to me the main thing wrong in the Incubator is focusing on what might be wrong rather than executing on the process we already have (or had). Shepherds worked when they were assigned at random by the IPMC chair well in advance of the report. This helps to focus on the actual podling reports. They don't work when self-selected. Rather than discussing specific issues with podlings that are mentor-less or report-less we are engaging in distracting discussions. Can we please just execute on reporting for the first two weeks of every month? Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Possible focal point: decision-making
If you look at proposals and email, you will notice that several people who disagree on many things agree that this group has trouble making decisions by consensus, due to size, diversity, and perhaps sheer orneriness. One possibility is to focus on the ideas in Bertrand's document that address decision-making. If, perchance, we could somehow reach consensus on how to reach consensus, we could then move along to the other questions and with a higher probability of finding consensus on them. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Helix 0.6.1-incubating
Hi: Closing the vote since it has passed 72 hours. Here is the result: +1: 3 (binding) Patrick Hunt Olivier Lamy Mahadev Konar -1: 0 The vote has passed, thanks a lot for everyone for voting, Thanks to the mentors for all the support! Cheers, The Helix team On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Mahadev Konar maha...@hortonworks.comwrote: +1 thanks mahadev On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Shi Lu lush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This is to call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Helix 0.6.1-incubating. This is the first release candidate of our second release at Apache. Apache Helix is a generic cluster management framework that makes it easy to build partitioned and replicated, fault tolerant and scalable distributed systems. Release notes: http://helix.incubator.apache.org/releasenotes/release-0.6.1-incubating.html Our vote thread on helix-dev: http://markmail.org/message/xymuvmcjxobmhjd3?q=+list:org%2Eapache%2Ehelix%2Edev The following IPMC members have voted +1 Patrick Hunt Olivier Lamy Release artifacts: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachehelix-121 Distribution: * binaries: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/helix/0.6.1-incubating/binaries/ * sources: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/helix/0.6.1-incubating/src/ The 0.6.1-incubating release tag https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-helix.git;a=commit;h=355d1692a9036fa8741ef828db45446515ff018f KEYS file available here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/helix/KEYS Please vote on the release. The vote will be open for 72 hours. Thanks, Apache Helix team.
[ANNOUNCE] Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating released
The Apache JSPWiki team is pleased to announce the release of JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating from the Apache Incubator. This is the second release of Apache JSPWiki, a feature-rich and extensible WikiWiki engine built around the standard J2EE components. The release is available here: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/jspwiki/ The full change log is available here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/jspwiki/fixforversion/12321249 We welcome your help and feedback. For more information on how to report problems, and to get involved, visit the project website at http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/ The Apache JSPWiki Team
