Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator
I sent a note to the CouchDB list to see if anyone else wants to volunteer as a mentor. On 31 May 2013 21:35, Henry Saputra wrote: > Added Noah Slater (nslater at apache dot org) as mentor and initial > committer to the proposal. > > - Henry > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Henry Saputra >wrote: > > > Dear ASF members, > > > > We would like to propose MetaModel for the incubator. > > > > Matt Franklin will be the Champion for this project and the proposal > draft > > is available at: > > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MetaModelProposal > > > > Looking forward to all of your suggestions and feedback. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Henry Saputra > > > > > > > > - > > > > = MetaModel – uniform data access across datastores = > > > > Proposal for Apache Incubator > > > > == Abstract == > > > > MetaModel is a data access framework, providing a common interface for > > exploration and querying of different types of datastores. > > > > == Proposal == > > > > MetaModel provides a uniform meta-model for exploring and querying the > > structure of datastores, covering but not limited to relational > databases, > > various data file formats, NoSQL databases, Salesforce.com, SugarCRM and > > more. The scope of the project is to stay domain-agnostic, so the > > meta-model will be concerned with schemas, tables, columns, rows, > > relationships etc. > > > > On top of this meta-model a rich querying API is provided which resembles > > SQL, but built using compiler-checked Java language constructs. For > > datastores that do not have a native SQL-compatible query engine, the > > MetaModel project also includes an abstract Java-based query engine > > implementation which individual datastore-modules can adapt to fit the > > concrete datastore. > > > > === Background === > > > > The MetaModel project was initially developed by eobject.dk to service > > the DataCleaner application (http://datacleaner.org). The main > > requirement was to perform data querying and modification operations on a > > wide range of quite different datastores. Furthermore a programmatic > query > > model was needed in order to allow different components to influence the > > query plan. > > > > In 2009, Human Inference acquired the eobjects projects including > > MetaModel. Since then MetaModel has been put to extensive use in the > Human > > Inference products. The open source nature of the project was reinforced, > > leading to a significant growth in the community. > > > > MetaModel has successfully been used in a number of other open source > > projects as well as mission critical commercial software from Human > > Inference. Currently MetaModel is hosted at > http://metamodel.eobjects.org. > > > > === Rationale === > > > > Different types of datastores have different characteristics, which > always > > lead to the interfaces for these being different from one another. > > Standards like JDBC and the SQL language attempt to standardize data > > access, but for some datastore types like flat files, spreadsheets, NoSQL > > databases and more, such standards are not even implementable. > > > > Specialization in interfaces obviously has merit for optimized usage, but > > for integration tools, batch applications and or generic data > modification > > tools, this myriad of specialized interfaces is a big pain. Furthermore, > > being able to query every datastore with a basic set of SQL-like features > > can be a great productivity boost for a wide range of applications. > > > > === Initial goals === > > > > MetaModel is already a stable project, so initial goals are more oriented > > towards an adaption to the Apache ecosystem than about functional > changes. > > > > We are constantly adding more datastore types to the portfolio, but the > > core modules have not had drastic changes for some time. > > > > Our focus will be on making ties with other Apache projects (such as POI, > > Gora, HBase and CouchDB) and potentially renaming the ‘MetaModel’ project > > to something more rememberable. > > This includes comply with Apache Software Foundation license for third > > party dependencies. > > > > == Current status == > > > > === Meritocracy === > > > > We intend to do everything we can to encourage a meritocracy in the > > development of MetaModel. Currently most important development and design > > decisions have been made at Human Inference, but with an open window for > > anyone to participate on mailing lists and discussion forums. We believe > > that the approach going forward should be more encouraging by sharing all > > the design ideas and discussions in the open, not only just the topics > that > > have been “dragged” into the open by third parties. We believe that > > meritocracy will be further stimulated by granting the control of the > > project to an independent committee. > > > > === Community === > > > > The community around MetaModel already exists, but we believe it will > g
Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator
Thanks Noah. I think the discussion has calmed down and hopefully we could start Vote thread tomorrow. - Henry On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Noah Slater wrote: > I sent a note to the CouchDB list to see if anyone else wants > to volunteer as a mentor. > > > On 31 May 2013 21:35, Henry Saputra wrote: > > > Added Noah Slater (nslater at apache dot org) as mentor and initial > > committer to the proposal. > > > > - Henry > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Henry Saputra > >wrote: > > > > > Dear ASF members, > > > > > > We would like to propose MetaModel for the incubator. > > > > > > Matt Franklin will be the Champion for this project and the proposal > > draft > > > is available at: > > > > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MetaModelProposal > > > > > > Looking forward to all of your suggestions and feedback. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Henry Saputra > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > = MetaModel – uniform data access across datastores = > > > > > > Proposal for Apache Incubator > > > > > > == Abstract == > > > > > > MetaModel is a data access framework, providing a common interface for > > > exploration and querying of different types of datastores. > > > > > > == Proposal == > > > > > > MetaModel provides a uniform meta-model for exploring and querying the > > > structure of datastores, covering but not limited to relational > > databases, > > > various data file formats, NoSQL databases, Salesforce.com, SugarCRM > and > > > more. The scope of the project is to stay domain-agnostic, so the > > > meta-model will be concerned with schemas, tables, columns, rows, > > > relationships etc. > > > > > > On top of this meta-model a rich querying API is provided which > resembles > > > SQL, but built using compiler-checked Java language constructs. For > > > datastores that do not have a native SQL-compatible query engine, the > > > MetaModel project also includes an abstract Java-based query engine > > > implementation which individual datastore-modules can adapt to fit the > > > concrete datastore. > > > > > > === Background === > > > > > > The MetaModel project was initially developed by eobject.dk to service > > > the DataCleaner application (http://datacleaner.org). The main > > > requirement was to perform data querying and modification operations > on a > > > wide range of quite different datastores. Furthermore a programmatic > > query > > > model was needed in order to allow different components to influence > the > > > query plan. > > > > > > In 2009, Human Inference acquired the eobjects projects including > > > MetaModel. Since then MetaModel has been put to extensive use in the > > Human > > > Inference products. The open source nature of the project was > reinforced, > > > leading to a significant growth in the community. > > > > > > MetaModel has successfully been used in a number of other open source > > > projects as well as mission critical commercial software from Human > > > Inference. Currently MetaModel is hosted at > > http://metamodel.eobjects.org. > > > > > > === Rationale === > > > > > > Different types of datastores have different characteristics, which > > always > > > lead to the interfaces for these being different from one another. > > > Standards like JDBC and the SQL language attempt to standardize data > > > access, but for some datastore types like flat files, spreadsheets, > NoSQL > > > databases and more, such standards are not even implementable. > > > > > > Specialization in interfaces obviously has merit for optimized usage, > but > > > for integration tools, batch applications and or generic data > > modification > > > tools, this myriad of specialized interfaces is a big pain. > Furthermore, > > > being able to query every datastore with a basic set of SQL-like > features > > > can be a great productivity boost for a wide range of applications. > > > > > > === Initial goals === > > > > > > MetaModel is already a sta> http://eobjects.org/svn/MetaModelbut will > be moved to an Apache > > repository. > > > > > > === Issue tracking === > > > > > > JIRA MetaModel (METAMODEL) > > > > > > === Other resources === > > > > > > We would like to have wiki page located at: > > > http://wiki.apache.org/MetaModel > > > > > > In later development phase a set of database servers (specifically > > > MongoDB, CouchDB, MySQL, PostgreSQL, MS SQL Server (Express), Firebird) > > > should be made available for integration testing. > > > Currently this is done internally at Human Inference. > > > > > > === Initial committers === > > > > > > Kasper Sørensen (i.am.kasper.sorensen [at] gmail.com), Project > Founder, > > > works at Human Inference > > > > > > Ankit Kumar (ak.ankitkumar [at] gmail.com), works at Human Inference > > > > > > Sameer Arora (sameer11sep [at] gmail.com) > > > > > > Henry Saputra (hsaputra [at] apache.org) > > > > > > Juan José van der Linden (delostilos [at] gmail.com), works for Quipu > > > > > > Arvin
Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator
Great. I assume that if someone is eager to join as a mentor and the vote is already done, we can add them after the fact. On 5 June 2013 10:22, Henry Saputra wrote: > Thanks Noah. > > I think the discussion has calmed down and hopefully we could start Vote > thread tomorrow. > > - Henry > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Noah Slater wrote: > > > I sent a note to the CouchDB list to see if anyone else wants > > to volunteer as a mentor. > > > > > > On 31 May 2013 21:35, Henry Saputra wrote: > > > > > Added Noah Slater (nslater at apache dot org) as mentor and initial > > > committer to the proposal. > > > > > > - Henry > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Henry Saputra < > henry.sapu...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Dear ASF members, > > > > > > > > We would like to propose MetaModel for the incubator. > > > > > > > > Matt Franklin will be the Champion for this project and the proposal > > > draft > > > > is available at: > > > > > > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MetaModelProposal > > > > > > > > Looking forward to all of your suggestions and feedback. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Henry Saputra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > = MetaModel – uniform data access across datastores = > > > > > > > > Proposal for Apache Incubator > > > > > > > > == Abstract == > > > > > > > > MetaModel is a data access framework, providing a common interface > for > > > > exploration and querying of different types of datastores. > > > > > > > > == Proposal == > > > > > > > > MetaModel provides a uniform meta-model for exploring and querying > the > > > > structure of datastores, covering but not limited to relational > > > databases, > > > > various data file formats, NoSQL databases, Salesforce.com, SugarCRM > > and > > > > more. The scope of the project is to stay domain-agnostic, so the > > > > meta-model will be concerned with schemas, tables, columns, rows, > > > > relationships etc. > > > > > > > > On top of this meta-model a rich querying API is provided which > > resembles > > > > SQL, but built using compiler-checked Java language constructs. For > > > > datastores that do not have a native SQL-compatible query engine, the > > > > MetaModel project also includes an abstract Java-based query engine > > > > implementation which individual datastore-modules can adapt to fit > the > > > > concrete datastore. > > > > > > > > === Background === > > > > > > > > The MetaModel project was initially developed by eobject.dk to > service > > > > the DataCleaner application (http://datacleaner.org). The main > > > > requirement was to perform data querying and modification operations > > on a > > > > wide range of quite different datastores. Furthermore a programmatic > > > query > > > > model was needed in order to allow different components to influence > > the > > > > query plan. > > > > > > > > In 2009, Human Inference acquired the eobjects projects including > > > > MetaModel. Since then MetaModel has been put to extensive use in the > > > Human > > > > Inference products. The open source nature of the project was > > reinforced, > > > > leading to a significant growth in the community. > > > > > > > > MetaModel has successfully been used in a number of other open source > > > > projects as well as mission critical commercial software from Human > > > > Inference. Currently MetaModel is hosted at > > > http://metamodel.eobjects.org. > > > > > > > > === Rationale === > > > > > > > > Different types of datastores have different characteristics, which > > > always > > > > lead to the interfaces for these being different from one another. > > > > Standards like JDBC and the SQL language attempt to standardize data > > > > access, but for some datastore types like flat files, spreadsheets, > > NoSQL > > > > databases and more, such standards are not even implementable. > > > > > > > > Specialization in interfaces obviously has merit for optimized usage, > > but > > > > for integration tools, batch applications and or generic data > > > modification > > > > tools, this myriad of specialized interfaces is a big pain. > > Furthermore, > > > > being able to query every datastore with a basic set of SQL-like > > features > > > > can be a great productivity boost for a wide range of applications. > > > > > > > > === Initial goals === > > > > > > > > MetaModel is already a sta> http://eobjects.org/svn/MetaModelbutwill > > be moved to an Apache > > > repository. > > > > > > > > === Issue tracking === > > > > > > > > JIRA MetaModel (METAMODEL) > > > > > > > > === Other resources === > > > > > > > > We would like to have wiki page located at: > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/MetaModel > > > > > > > > In later development phase a set of database servers (specifically > > > > MongoDB, CouchDB, MySQL, PostgreSQL, MS SQL Server (Express), > Firebird) > > > > should be made available for integration testing. > > > > Currently this is done
Re: Redirect of new podling urls
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Re: Redirect of new podling urls
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Re: Redirect of new podling urls
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Looking for a Champion
I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. Can somebody help me? Thanks for your consideration.
Re: Looking for a Champion
Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? S Can somebody help me? Thanks for your consideration. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Looking for a Champion
Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with SCM, Build Automation, Testing... This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration though) The architecture is very different. The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several years. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy wrote: > Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > > I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. >> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. >> > > > Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? > > > S > > >> Can somebody help me? >> >> Thanks for your consideration. >> >> > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-help@incubator.apache.**org > >
Re: Looking for a Champion
Andy, It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with > SCM, Build Automation, Testing... > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration > though) > The architecture is very different. > > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several years. > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy wrote: > >> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: >> >> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. >>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. >>> >> >> >> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? >> >> >> S >> >> >>> Can somebody help me? >>> >>> Thanks for your consideration. >>> >>> >> >> >> --**--**- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-help@incubator.apache.**org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Looking for a Champion
Hey Alexei, Yes, it does. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > Andy, > It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel > wrote: > > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with > > SCM, Build Automation, Testing... > > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for > > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration > > though) > > The architecture is very different. > > > > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several > years. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy wrote: > > > >> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > >> > >> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. > >>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. > >>> > >> > >> > >> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? > >> > >> > >> S > >> > >> > >>> Can somebody help me? > >>> > >>> Thanks for your consideration. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > --**--**- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org< > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Looking for a Champion
Could it be a part of Apache Wicket? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > Hey Alexei, > > Yes, it does. > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov > wrote: > >> Andy, >> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? >> -- >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> http://dataved.ru/ >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel >> wrote: >> > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with >> > SCM, Build Automation, Testing... >> > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for >> > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration >> > though) >> > The architecture is very different. >> > >> > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several >> years. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy wrote: >> > >> >> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. >> >>> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? >> >> >> >> >> >> S >> >> >> >> >> >>> Can somebody help me? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for your consideration. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --**--**- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Looking for a Champion
I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about, but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make it a Wicket subproject if you ask me. Greetings, Marcel On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > Could it be a part of Apache Wicket? > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel > wrote: >> Hey Alexei, >> >> Yes, it does. >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov >> wrote: >> >>> Andy, >>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? >>> -- >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>> http://dataved.ru/ >>> +7 916 562 8095 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel >>> wrote: Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with SCM, Build Automation, Testing... This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration though) The architecture is very different. The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several >>> years. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy wrote: > Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > > I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. >> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. >> > > > Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? > > > S > > >> Can somebody help me? >> >> Thanks for your consideration. >> >> > > > >>> --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > > >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Looking for a Champion
Would this batch application be an implementation of the Java Batch API (from Java EE 7)? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marcel Offermans < marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote: > I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the > Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about, > but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make > it a Wicket subproject if you ask me. > > Greetings, Marcel > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov > wrote: > > > Could it be a part of Apache Wicket? > > -- > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > http://dataved.ru/ > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel > > wrote: > >> Hey Alexei, > >> > >> Yes, it does. > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Andy, > >>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? > >>> -- > >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >>> http://dataved.ru/ > >>> +7 916 562 8095 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel > >>> wrote: > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration > with > SCM, Build Automation, Testing... > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration > though) > The architecture is very different. > > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several > >>> years. > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy > wrote: > > > Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. > >> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. > >> > > > > > > Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? > > > > > > S > > > > > >> Can somebody help me? > >> > >> Thanks for your consideration. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>> > --**--**- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< > >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. > **org< > >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > > > > > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Looking for a Champion
+1 @Marcel Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help or not ? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans < marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote: > I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the > Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about, > but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make > it a Wicket subproject if you ask me. > > Greetings, Marcel > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov > wrote: > > > Could it be a part of Apache Wicket? > > -- > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > http://dataved.ru/ > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel > > wrote: > >> Hey Alexei, > >> > >> Yes, it does. > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Andy, > >>> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? > >>> -- > >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >>> http://dataved.ru/ > >>> +7 916 562 8095 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel > >>> wrote: > Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration > with > SCM, Build Automation, Testing... > This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for > Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration > though) > The architecture is very different. > > The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several > >>> years. > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy > wrote: > > > Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. > >> The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. > >> > > > > > > Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? > > > > > > S > > > > > >> Can somebody help me? > >> > >> Thanks for your consideration. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>> > --**--**- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< > >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. > **org< > >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > > > > > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
Re: Looking for a Champion
On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: +1 @Marcel Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help or not ? He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :) On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans < marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote: I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is about, but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to make it a Wicket subproject if you ask me. Greetings, Marcel On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: Could it be a part of Apache Wicket? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: Hey Alexei, Yes, it does. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov < alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>wrote: Andy, It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration with SCM, Build Automation, Testing... This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration though) The architecture is very different. The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several years. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy wrote: Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? S Can somebody help me? Thanks for your consideration. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. **org< general-h...@incubator.apache.org> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Looking for a Champion
@Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare an abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1] make a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see if someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > >> +1 @Marcel >> >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help or >> not ? >> > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :) > > > >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans < >> marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote: >> >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is >>> about, >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to >>> make >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me. >>> >>> Greetings, Marcel >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov >>> wrote: >>> >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: > Hey Alexei, > > Yes, it does. > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>**wrote: >>> > Andy, >> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it? >> -- >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> http://dataved.ru/ >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel >> wrote: >> >>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration >>> >> with >>> SCM, Build Automation, Testing... >>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for >>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous Integration >>> though) >>> The architecture is very different. >>> >>> The idea behind this has come up of using Hudson/Jenkins for several >>> >> years. >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simon Lucy >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. > The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. > > Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? S Can somebody help me? > > Thanks for your consideration. > > > >> --** >>> --**- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org< >>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org >> > >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >>> **org< >>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org >> > >> >>> >> --**--** >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-help@incubator.apache.**org >> >> >> --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org >>> >>> --**--** >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-help@incubator.apache.**org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now (myself, and pramirez). Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, and restart it with another mentor. Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor and sort out Adam's participation. Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: , jpluser Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >Hey Jim, > >I think it should probably read: > >We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal >into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously >open source external community into Apache. > > >I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: > >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal > > >Cheers, >Chris > >++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Senior Computer Scientist >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >++ >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >++ > > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Jim Jagielski >Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > >> >>On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" >> wrote: >>> >>> We're looking for developers and sponsors. >>> >> >>Sponsors?? >> >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs three mentors before it can start to be incubated? Regards, Alan On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" wrote: > Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now > (myself, and pramirez). > > Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up > for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, > and restart it with another mentor. > > Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also > in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, > hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor > and sort out Adam's participation. > > Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: , jpluser > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > >> Hey Jim, >> >> I think it should probably read: >> >> We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal >> into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously >> open source external community into Apache. >> >> >> I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: >> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal >> >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jim Jagielski >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >> >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" >>> wrote: We're looking for developers and sponsors. >>> >>> Sponsors?? >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Apache HotdoG interest?
Hey Adam, I noticed you were interested in Apache HotdoG -- would you like to join the project as an initial committer and PPMC member? I know you are interested in being a mentor; which requires you to be a member of the IPMC which at present you are not. That being said there is nothing stopping you from doing "mentor"-ish roles and tasks. Meaning, you can still help out with IPMC HotdoG reporting (should the project be accepted into the Incubator after our restarted VOTE and after we get a 3rd mentor from the IPMC to sign up ;) ); with the community for HotdoG and bringing new contributors to it; and of course with the code! Demonstration of these types of qualities is precisely the types of things we look for in a mentor and an IPMC member and there is nothing stopping you from doing that to help out HotdoG. Suggestion: (if the rest of the Hotdog community members have no objection; which are present during discussion they have not) 1. Adam adds himself as PPMC member and committer to: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal 2. Should HotdoG be accepted as Apache Incubator project; Adam does mentor roles and participates that way. Adam that sound good? Thanks for your interest! Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
There is no explicit rule (to my knowledge). The number "3" came about because that's how many votes are needed for a release. With >3 mentors on the project it means the project needs to come to the IPMC for additional votes. As we've seen this can become very messy. Ross On 5 June 2013 15:48, Alan Cabrera wrote: > Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs three > mentors before it can start to be incubated? > > > Regards, > Alan > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" > wrote: > >> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >> (myself, and pramirez). >> >> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >> and restart it with another mentor. >> >> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >> and sort out Adam's participation. >> >> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: , jpluser >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >> >>> Hey Jim, >>> >>> I think it should probably read: >>> >>> We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal >>> into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously >>> open source external community into Apache. >>> >>> >>> I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: >>> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jim Jagielski >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" wrote: > > We're looking for developers and sponsors. > Sponsors?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Let's keep things simple and let the vote proceed. It's in the podling's interest to get three active mentors for the reasons you mention below. Please, let's keep things simple. Regards, Alan On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > There is no explicit rule (to my knowledge). The number "3" came about > because that's how many votes are needed for a release. With >3 > mentors on the project it means the project needs to come to the IPMC > for additional votes. As we've seen this can become very messy. > > Ross > > On 5 June 2013 15:48, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs three >> mentors before it can start to be incubated? >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" >> wrote: >> >>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >>> (myself, and pramirez). >>> >>> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >>> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >>> and restart it with another mentor. >>> >>> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >>> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >>> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >>> and sort out Adam's participation. >>> >>> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: , jpluser >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>> Hey Jim, I think it should probably read: We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously open source external community into Apache. I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" > wrote: >> >> We're looking for developers and sponsors. >> > > Sponsors?? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscri
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Hey Alan, Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. That said, let's take a simple data point: how many proposals over the past few years have been accepted with less than 3 mentors (not considering like you mentioned that mentors do go AWOL from time to time and that over the life of a podling, there may be less than 3 active at a given time)? It's Paul's proposal as Champion so, up to him, but my recommendation would be to find 1 more wiling IPMC $victim..err mentor! Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Alan Cabrera Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:48 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs >three mentors before it can start to be incubated? > > >Regards, >Alan > >On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" > wrote: > >> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >> (myself, and pramirez). >> >> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >> and restart it with another mentor. >> >> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >> and sort out Adam's participation. >> >> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: , jpluser >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >> >>> Hey Jim, >>> >>> I think it should probably read: >>> >>> We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal >>> into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously >>> open source external community into Apache. >>> >>> >>> I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: >>> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jim Jagielski >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" wrote: > > We're looking for developers and sponsors. > Sponsors?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: gen
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Precisely, Ross. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:51 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >There is no explicit rule (to my knowledge). The number "3" came about >because that's how many votes are needed for a release. With >3 >mentors on the project it means the project needs to come to the IPMC >for additional votes. As we've seen this can become very messy. > >Ross > >On 5 June 2013 15:48, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs >>three mentors before it can start to be incubated? >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" >> wrote: >> >>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >>> (myself, and pramirez). >>> >>> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >>> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >>> and restart it with another mentor. >>> >>> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >>> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >>> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >>> and sort out Adam's participation. >>> >>> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: , jpluser >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>> Hey Jim, I think it should probably read: We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously open source external community into Apache. I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" > wrote: >> >> We're looking for developers and sponsors. >> > > Sponsors?? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> -
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Please, let's not make up new rules as we go along. To be sure as IPMC members we should proactively inform the prospective podling of the potential problems they will encounter entering the Incubator with less than 3 mentors. It would commendable if IPMC members actively hunted such mentors down for the potential podling. But let's not do ad hoc tweaking to our processes. Let's keep things simple and let the vote continue. Regards, Alan On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:54 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" wrote: > Hey Alan, > > Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is > that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. > > That said, let's take a simple data point: how many proposals > over the past few years have been accepted with less than 3 > mentors (not considering like you mentioned that mentors do > go AWOL from time to time and that over the life of a podling, > there may be less than 3 active at a given time)? > > It's Paul's proposal as Champion so, up to him, but my recommendation > would be to find 1 more wiling IPMC $victim..err mentor! > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Cabrera > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:48 AM > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > >> Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs >> three mentors before it can start to be incubated? >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" >> wrote: >> >>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >>> (myself, and pramirez). >>> >>> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >>> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >>> and restart it with another mentor. >>> >>> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >>> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >>> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >>> and sort out Adam's participation. >>> >>> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: , jpluser >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>> Hey Jim, I think it should probably read: We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously open source external community into Apache. I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:2
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
All, You are too fast for me. I'm moving forwarding with canceling for now, securing a mentor, and then resubmitting the vote. I would move to pull in the +1s during the next vote; noting that a retraction could be made if the person wished. I believe we can secure a mentor in short order but see no reason to buck the trend of a successful model and would prefer to start off on a good foot with as many people helping this along as possible. --Paul Ramirez On 6/5/13 7:54 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" wrote: >Hey Alan, > >Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is >that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. > >That said, let's take a simple data point: how many proposals >over the past few years have been accepted with less than 3 >mentors (not considering like you mentioned that mentors do >go AWOL from time to time and that over the life of a podling, >there may be less than 3 active at a given time)? > >It's Paul's proposal as Champion so, up to him, but my recommendation >would be to find 1 more wiling IPMC $victim..err mentor! > >Cheers, >Chris > >++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Senior Computer Scientist >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >++ >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >++ > > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Alan Cabrera >Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:48 AM >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > >>Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs >>three mentors before it can start to be incubated? >> >> >>Regards, >>Alan >> >>On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" >> wrote: >> >>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now >>> (myself, and pramirez). >>> >>> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up >>> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, >>> and restart it with another mentor. >>> >>> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also >>> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, >>> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor >>> and sort out Adam's participation. >>> >>> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: , jpluser >>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM >>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >>> Hey Jim, I think it should probably read: We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the proposal into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously open source external community into Apache. I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" > wrote: >>
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Alan, Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm not suggesting tweaking anything nor changing Incubator process. Notice I said "I think we should probably.." Please tell me where I said "You [or we] must.." Again, it's Ramirez's call since he put the proposal up and is the Champion. If he gets at least 3 IPMC +1s in a new thread (which it looks like he will create), nothing has changed, all is well. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Alan Cabrera Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:00 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >Please, let's not make up new rules as we go along. > >To be sure as IPMC members we should proactively inform the prospective >podling of the potential problems they will encounter entering the >Incubator with less than 3 mentors. It would commendable if IPMC members >actively hunted such mentors down for the potential podling. > >But let's not do ad hoc tweaking to our processes. Let's keep things >simple and let the vote continue. > > >Regards, >Alan > >On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:54 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" > wrote: > >> Hey Alan, >> >> Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is >> that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. >> >> That said, let's take a simple data point: how many proposals >> over the past few years have been accepted with less than 3 >> mentors (not considering like you mentioned that mentors do >> go AWOL from time to time and that over the life of a podling, >> there may be less than 3 active at a given time)? >> >> It's Paul's proposal as Champion so, up to him, but my recommendation >> would be to find 1 more wiling IPMC $victim..err mentor! >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Alan Cabrera >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:48 AM >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >> >>> Mentors come and go. Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs >>> three mentors before it can start to be incubated? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alan >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" >>> wrote: >>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now (myself, and pramirez). Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul, and restart it with another mentor. Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay, hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor and sort out Adam's participation. Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread? Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: , jpluser Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > Hey Jim, > > I think it should p
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: > Hey Alan, > > Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is > that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. > There is an official policy which is documented on the Incubator policy page. That says "A Podling has one or more Mentors, one of which MUST be an Apache Member. " - http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Mentor I think its fine to carry on without three, mentors come and go and can easily be added if more are required. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[CANCEL][VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
All, It was brought to my attention that we have only 2 mentors. At this time I am canceling the vote for Apache HotdoG in order to secure another mentor. I'd like to start of on a good footing and have a good level of support. If there is any interest to mentor this project [1] it would be welcomed. Thanks, Paul Ramirez [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Ramirez, Paul M (398J) wrote: > You are too fast for me. I'm moving forwarding with canceling for now, > securing a mentor, and then resubmitting the vote. I would move to pull > in > the +1s during the next vote; noting that a retraction could be made if > the person wished. I believe we can secure a mentor in short order but > see > no reason to buck the trend of a successful model and would prefer to > start off on a good foot with as many people helping this along as > possible. I'm willing to help here, you can count me in as a mentor. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Right Ant, that official policy doesn't say 3, and I found the same one (hoping that it said 3; or at least said NOT 3, so it would be definitive, which it's not in any other form besides > 1) Regardless, like I said, VOTE cancelled, so this is moot so would be great to let this thread die now :) Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: ant elder Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:07 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) > wrote: >> Hey Alan, >> >> Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is >> that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. >> > >There is an official policy which is documented on the Incubator >policy page. That says "A Podling has one or more Mentors, one of >which MUST be an Apache Member. " - >http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Mentor > >I think its fine to carry on without three, mentors come and go and >can easily be added if more are required. > > ...ant > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Joe, Thanks, adding you as a mentor now. Going to wait a week on resubmitting a vote. Thanks for the help! --Paul On 6/5/13 8:10 AM, "Joe Brockmeier" wrote: >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Ramirez, Paul M (398J) wrote: >> You are too fast for me. I'm moving forwarding with canceling for now, >> securing a mentor, and then resubmitting the vote. I would move to pull >> in >> the +1s during the next vote; noting that a retraction could be made if >> the person wished. I believe we can secure a mentor in short order but >> see >> no reason to buck the trend of a successful model and would prefer to >> start off on a good foot with as many people helping this along as >> possible. > >I'm willing to help here, you can count me in as a mentor. > >Best, > >jzb >-- >Joe Brockmeier >j...@zonker.net >Twitter: @jzb >http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Right Ant, that official policy doesn't say 3, and I found the same > one (hoping that it said 3; or at least said NOT 3, so it would > be definitive, which it's not in any other form besides > 1) > > Regardless, like I said, VOTE cancelled, so this is moot so would > be great to let this thread die now :) > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: ant elder > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:07 AM > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > > >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) > > wrote: > >> Hey Alan, > >> > >> Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is > >> that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. > >> > > > >There is an official policy which is documented on the Incubator > >policy page. That says "A Podling has one or more Mentors, one of > >which MUST be an Apache Member. " - > >http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Mentor > > > >I think its fine to carry on without three, mentors come and go and > >can easily be added if more are required. > > > > ...ant > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Thanks Greg! --Paul On 6/5/13 8:21 AM, "Greg Reddin" wrote: >Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. > > >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >> Right Ant, that official policy doesn't say 3, and I found the same >> one (hoping that it said 3; or at least said NOT 3, so it would >> be definitive, which it's not in any other form besides > 1) >> >> Regardless, like I said, VOTE cancelled, so this is moot so would >> be great to let this thread die now :) >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ant elder >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:07 AM >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator >> >> >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) >> > wrote: >> >> Hey Alan, >> >> >> >> Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is >> >> that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption. >> >> >> > >> >There is an official policy which is documented on the Incubator >> >policy page. That says "A Podling has one or more Mentors, one of >> >which MUST be an Apache Member. " - >> >http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Mentor >> > >> >I think its fine to carry on without three, mentors come and go and >> >can easily be added if more are required. >> > >> > ...ant >> > >> >- >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. Benson, One of my podling tools doesn't see that Greg is on the IPMC though he is an ASF member. I think we need to update the LDAP entries if he's already been ACK'd. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > > > Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. > > Benson, > > One of my podling tools doesn't see that Greg is on the IPMC though he is > an ASF member. I think we need to update the LDAP entries if he's already > been ACK'd. > Greg Stein pointed out yesterday that the ACK date was 3/15/2010 Greg
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: >> >>> Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. >> >> Benson, >> >> One of my podling tools doesn't see that Greg is on the IPMC though he is >> an ASF member. I think we need to update the LDAP entries if he's already >> been ACK'd. >> > > Greg Stein pointed out yesterday that the ACK date was 3/15/2010 Great, just need someone with the karmic powers to do the needful. :) Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Looking at: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc It would seem that there would be a cn for incubator-pmc in LDAP. So I tried running modify_committee.pl on mino and got back: No LDAP groups found with cn=incubator-pmc! So either I'm doing that wrong or don't have the karma. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: Alan Cabrera Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:40 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > >On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Alan Cabrera >>wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: >>> Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. >>> >>> Benson, >>> >>> One of my podling tools doesn't see that Greg is on the IPMC though he >>>is >>> an ASF member. I think we need to update the LDAP entries if he's >>>already >>> been ACK'd. >>> >> >> Greg Stein pointed out yesterday that the ACK date was 3/15/2010 > >Great, just need someone with the karmic powers to do the needful. :) > > >Regards, >Alan > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
+ infra-dev On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" wrote: > Looking at: > > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc > > > It would seem that there would be a cn for incubator-pmc in LDAP. > So I tried running modify_committee.pl on mino and got back: > > No LDAP groups found with cn=incubator-pmc! > > So either I'm doing that wrong or don't have the karma. > > Cheers, > Chris > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Cabrera > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:40 AM > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator > >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Alan Cabrera >>> wrote: >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > Added my name to the proposal. I'm willing to mentor. Benson, One of my podling tools doesn't see that Greg is on the IPMC though he is an ASF member. I think we need to update the LDAP entries if he's already been ACK'd. >>> >>> Greg Stein pointed out yesterday that the ACK date was 3/15/2010 >> >> Great, just need someone with the karmic powers to do the needful. :) >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Ambari 1.2.3-incubating RC1
+1 (binding) Verified bits and check license etc. Arun On May 29, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Yusaku Sako wrote: > Hi all, > > ambari-1.2.3-incubating-rc1 release candidate is now available. > > Here's a summary of Ambari 1.2.3 features: > * Improved stability > * Ability to update core-site.xml properties post-install > * Ability to add and remove custom configuration properties > * New Heatmaps (Host > CPU WIO %, HBase > RegionServer > Reads/Writes/Regions/QueueSize/MemstoreSize) > * Ability to add host components on existing hosts > * Filter hosts by host health status > * Mixed OS support > * init.d scripts > * Support for Oracle Enterprise Linux 5 and 6 > > I have successfully deployed a 5-node cluster on RHEL 6.3 using the > instructions available at: > http://incubator.apache.org/ambari/1.2.3/installing-hadoop-using-ambari/content/index.html > > SVN source tag: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ambari/tags/release-1.2.3-rc1 > > Staging site: > http://people.apache.org/~yusaku/ambari-1.2.3-incubating-rc1 > > PGP release keys (signed using 3ABE18B3) > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4C3AA2723ABE18B3 > > One can look into the issues fixed in this release at: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20AMBARI%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%221.2.3%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Resolved%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC > > Vote will be open for 72 hours. > > [ ] +1 approve > [ ] +0 no opinion > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > Here's my vote to start: +1 (binding) > > Yusaku -- Arun C. Murthy Hortonworks Inc. http://hortonworks.com/
[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Ambari 1.2.3-incubating RC1
Hi all, Thanks for voting on the Ambari 1.2.3 release. With 10 +1 votes and 3 binding from IPMC, the vote passes. Note that some of the votes just went to ambari-...@incubator.apache.org or general@incubator.apache.org. Here are the 10 +1's. Mahadev Konar (IPMC, PPMC) Devaraj Das (IPMC, PPMC) Arun Murthy (IPMC) Jitendra Pandey (PPMC) Hitesh Shah (PPMC) Yusaku Sako (PPMC) Srimanth Gunturi Siddharth Wagle Sumit Monanty Nate Cole I will go ahead and make the release bits available. Thanks, Yusaku On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Verified bits and check license etc. > > Arun > > On May 29, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Yusaku Sako wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> ambari-1.2.3-incubating-rc1 release candidate is now available. >> >> Here's a summary of Ambari 1.2.3 features: >> * Improved stability >> * Ability to update core-site.xml properties post-install >> * Ability to add and remove custom configuration properties >> * New Heatmaps (Host > CPU WIO %, HBase > RegionServer >> Reads/Writes/Regions/QueueSize/MemstoreSize) >> * Ability to add host components on existing hosts >> * Filter hosts by host health status >> * Mixed OS support >> * init.d scripts >> * Support for Oracle Enterprise Linux 5 and 6 >> >> I have successfully deployed a 5-node cluster on RHEL 6.3 using the >> instructions available at: >> http://incubator.apache.org/ambari/1.2.3/installing-hadoop-using-ambari/content/index.html >> >> SVN source tag: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ambari/tags/release-1.2.3-rc1 >> >> Staging site: >> http://people.apache.org/~yusaku/ambari-1.2.3-incubating-rc1 >> >> PGP release keys (signed using 3ABE18B3) >> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4C3AA2723ABE18B3 >> >> One can look into the issues fixed in this release at: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20AMBARI%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%221.2.3%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Resolved%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC >> >> Vote will be open for 72 hours. >> >> [ ] +1 approve >> [ ] +0 no opinion >> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) >> >> >> Here's my vote to start: +1 (binding) >> >> Yusaku > > -- > Arun C. Murthy > Hortonworks Inc. > http://hortonworks.com/ > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33) Establish whether "Apache JSPWiki" is a suitable name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33: - Evidence Of Use On World Wide Web: Search at Google for "jspwiki -site:jspwiki.org" * First result pointing to incubator.apache.org/jspwiki * Second result pointing to incubator.apache.org/projects/jspwiki.html? * Third and fourth results pointing to JSPWiki entry at Wikipedia (spanish and simple english) * Top 3 results pointing to www.jspwiki.org, which is being transferred to ASF (cfr. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5588?focusedCommentId=13666111&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13666111) * Next results showing a github mirror of Apache JSPWiki, jspwiki config file at Liferay (which integrates JSPWiki), a JSPWiki howto (a tutorial on JSPWiki syntax, as part of a Forrester plugin which understands JSPWiki markup), wikimatrix's JSPWiki features page and finally a "JSPWiki to DokuWiki Converter" entry * Next page of results includes mirrors from /incubator/jspwiki, debian packages for JSPWiki, JSPWiki's twitter account, a couple of JSPWiki instancef, an article on converting JSPWiki to mediawiki, JSPWiki stats on programmableweb.com and builtwith.com and JSPWiki entry at c2.com Search at Yahoo for "jspwiki -site:jspwiki.org" * First result pointing at spanish Wikipedia entry * Second and third results pointing to articles about JSPWiki * In fourth place comes JSPWiki's twitter account * Next results include french wikipedia entry about JSPWiki, 3 instances of JSPWiki and ohloh statistics for JSPWiki * Next page of results includes more JSPWiki instances, a couple more articles on JSPWiki, jspwiki incubator's page and JSPWiki entry at snipsnap.org Search at Bing for "jspwiki -site:jspwiki.org" yields same results as Yahoo search was: Search at Google for "jspwiki" * Top 3 results pointing to www.jspwiki.org, which is being transferred to ASF (cfr. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5588?focusedCommentId=13666111&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13666111) * Next results showing wikipedia result for jspwiki, apache incubator's site for jspwiki and wikimatrix's JSPWik features page. Next 5 pages of results point to articles related to JSPWiki Search at yahoo for "jspwiki" * Top 5 results about www.jspwiki.org, sandbox.jspwiki.org, doc.jspwiki.org, which are being transferred to ASF (cfr. link above). Also showed the wikipedia (es) link for jspwiki * Next 5 results showing articles about jspwiki Search at Bing for "jspwiki" * almost same results as yahoo: Top 5 results about www.jspwiki.org, sandbox.jspwiki.org, doc.jspwiki.org, which are being transferred to ASF (cfr. link above). Also showed the wikipedia (es) link for jspwiki * Next 5 results showing articles about jspwiki > Establish whether "Apache JSPWiki" is a suitable name > -- > > Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33 > URL: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33 > Project: Podling Suitable Names Search > Issue Type: Suitable Name Search >Reporter: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez > > We have to do some investigations to ensure that "Apache JSPWiki" is a > suitable name for a TLP. Here are some resources related to this issue: > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ > Apache JSPWiki is a Java-based WikiWiki engine, feature-rich and built around > standard J2EE components (Java, servlets, JSP). > A similar search was perfomed 4 years ago, so this issue is mostly an update > on that JIRA. cfr with: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-547 -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Wiki administrators group
Can someone with Karma add me to the wiki administrators group? Username: MattFranklin -- Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse typos or brevity.
Re: Wiki administrators group
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Matt Franklin wrote: > Can someone with Karma add me to the wiki administrators group? > > Username: MattFranklin Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Wiki administrators group
Thanks. On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Matt Franklin > > > wrote: > > Can someone with Karma add me to the wiki administrators group? > > > > Username: MattFranklin > > Done. > > Marvin Humphrey > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse typos or brevity.
Re: Looking for a Champion
My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
Abstract
Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
via a web user interface.
Brief Description
Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
simple workflow
which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
can be used in a
more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
(E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
The basic idea runs around these concepts:
Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
executed by a Job
Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
notify interested parties)
Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
recipes can be reused
Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
an example.
Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
value 'clean install'
The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
and see the results of it.
I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare an
> abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
>
> @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1] make
> a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see if
> someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
>
> [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
> > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> >
> >> +1 @Marcel
> >>
> >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> or
> >> not ?
> >>
> >
> > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> >> marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> >>> about,
> >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> >>> make
> >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings, Marcel
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Alexei,
> >
> > Yes, it does.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> >
> alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>**wrote:
> >>>
>
> > Andy,
> >> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> >> --
> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jenkins is a continuous integration server, it provides integration
> >>>
> >> with
> >>>
> SCM, Build Automation, Testing...
> >>> This proposal is for a multi-purpose tool, providing support for
> >>> Monitoring, Backup's,Process Automation, (also Continuous
> Integration
> >>> though)
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Re: Looking for a Champion
So what makes it different from jenkins?
06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com> написал:
> My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
>
> Abstract
> Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
> via a web user interface.
>
> Brief Description
> Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
> for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
> simple workflow
> which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
> for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> can be used in a
> more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
>
> The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> executed by a Job
> Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
> is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
> notify interested parties)
> Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> recipes can be reused
>
> Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
> an example.
> Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> value 'clean install'
> The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
> will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
> test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
>
> Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> and see the results of it.
> I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare
> an
> > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> >
> > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> make
> > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> if
> > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 @Marcel
> > >>
> > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> > or
> > >> not ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > >> marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > >>> about,
> > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> > >>> make
> > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Alexei,
> > >
> > > Yes, it does.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >
> > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > >>>
> >
> > > Andy,
> > >> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > >> --
> > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >> http://dataved.ru/
> > >> +7 916 562 8095
> > >>
> > >
Re: Looking for a Champion
There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com> написал:
> My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
>
> Abstract
> Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch jobs
> via a web user interface.
>
> Brief Description
> Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone application
> for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide a
> simple workflow
> which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided plugins
> for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> can be used in a
> more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
>
> The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> executed by a Job
> Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an exception
> is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown to
> notify interested parties)
> Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> recipes can be reused
>
> Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration as
> an example.
> Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> value 'clean install'
> The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the value
> will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value 'clean
> test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
>
> Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> and see the results of it.
> I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to make
> > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to prepare
> an
> > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> >
> > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> make
> > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> if
> > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 @Marcel
> > >>
> > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can help
> > or
> > >> not ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > >> marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in the
> > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > >>> about,
> > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough to
> > >>> make
> > >>> it a Wicket subproject if you ask me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greetings, Marcel
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 16:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Could it be a part of Apache Wicket?
> > --
> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > http://dataved.ru/
> > +7 916 562 8095
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Alexei,
> > >
> > > Yes, it does.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > >
> > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>**wrote:
> > >>>
> >
> > > Andy,
> > >> It uses Apache Wicket, doesn't it?
> > >> --
> > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > >> http://dataved.ru/
> > >> +7 916 562
Re: Looking for a Champion
Jenkins is used to build software projects. It's a continuous integration
server.
Tashlin will be more generic, used to build any set of tasks. Also business
processes are possible.
Example: Let's say I want a job to do a HTTP GET call every 5 minutes and
show the results.
In Jenkins, I'll probably create a free-style project, but it asks me for a
SCM which makes no sense for this scenario.
I think a lot of people today hack around the fact that Jenkins is a
continuous integration server, because it is easy to use and to setup
scheduling tasks.
If we make a generic platform we can create a one stop shop for all
schedeling tasks.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> There is no requirement to be different to join, I just wonder
> 06.06.2013 9:36 пользователь "Andy Van Den Heuvel" <
> andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com> написал:
>
> > My apologies for causing confusion. Hopefully this will clear things up:
> >
> > Abstract
> > Tashlin is a lightweight application for composing and executing batch
> jobs
> > via a web user interface.
> >
> > Brief Description
> > Tashlin allows you to create and run batch jobs in a standalone
> application
> > for use cases where you want to automate a set of tasks. It will provide
> a
> > simple workflow
> > which allows users to set up automation up in minutes with provided
> plugins
> > for common functionality. This differs from tools like Jenkins in that it
> > can be used in a
> > more generic way. Continuous integration is just one of the possibities.
> > (E.g. integration with SCM or build automation is not a requirement).
> > Other use cases are Monitoring, Backups, General Process Automation...
> >
> > The basic idea runs around these concepts:
> > Recipe: Users will compose recipes. This is a template that will be
> > executed by a Job
> > Flow: A recipe contains 2 flows: a buildflow (= will stop when an
> exception
> > is thrown) and a feedbackflow (will run, even when exceptions are thrown
> to
> > notify interested parties)
> > Step: A flow will execute a set of steps. Step logic will be provided
> > through the use of plugins. Step configuration can be configured.
> > Job: A job will be executed on a specific trigger. (on-demand,
> > cron-based...) and can contain parameters.
> > Parameter: A parameter is a value that can be used in a recipe so that
> > recipes can be reused
> >
> > Because it has come up on this thread, I'll give continuous integration
> as
> > an example.
> > Let's say I want to setup continuous integration for my maven project.
> > I create a recipe with 2 build steps ('CheckOut From Subversion', 'Build
> > With Maven') and 1 feedback step ('Email results').
> > I create a job using this recipe and providing a parameter 'Goals' with
> > value 'clean install'
> > The 'Build With Maven' step will have ${GOALS} as a placeholder, the
> value
> > will be provided when executing the recipe (via EL).
> > Now I can create a 2nd job providing a parameter 'Goals' with value
> 'clean
> > test -Dtest=*IntegrationTests' etc.
> >
> > Keep in mind that this is just a very basic example. The goal of the
> > project is to bridge the gap for people who simply want to automate stuff
> > and see the results of it.
> > I think that a lot of people could benefit from this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > @Ate Yes I noticed but not enough information here in the thread to
> make
> > > anyone think to help or not and I would suggest for Andy just to
> prepare
> > an
> > > abstract and brief description and share it here to see if someone is
> > > interested rather than keep coming and going with question just to know
> > > what the project is about rather than discussing whom will help and how
> > >
> > > @Andy: Would you please paste (or link) here an abstract and a brief
> > > description what the project is about ? I would say have a look at [1]
> > make
> > > a similar one fill it in with as much as you can share that here to see
> > if
> > > someone is interested to be a Champion and take it from there
> > >
> > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 06/05/2013 04:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1 @Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >> Any links for the draft proposal so people can assess if they can
> help
> > > or
> > > >> not ?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > He is asking for help (Champion) to create such a draft :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marcel Offermans <
> > > >> marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I would never search for a generic job scheduling application in
> the
> > > >>> Wicket project. I still don't know exactly what this new project is
> > > >>> about,
> > > >>> but the fact that it happens to use Wicket in itself is not enough
> to
> > > >>> make
>
