Podling new committer votes
Looking at the Voting in a new committer section at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html i see that its been updated since i last looked and now says the Incubator PMC should be notified twice when a podling is voting in a new committer, once at the start of the vote and again with the result. Is this really necessary? The last big discussion about this that i recall was http://apache.markmail.org/message/v5gwhbpbifqcafqu which resulted in a single notification, before that in the experiment that Joe started with podlings doing their own committer votes there wasn't any requirement to notify the Incubator PMC at all - http://apache.markmail.org/message/mihzgp7jfclj2dcv. So I'd like to remove this dual notification suggestion from that ppmc guide page again. Comments? ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Podling new committer votes
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the Voting in a new committer section at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html i see that its been updated since i last looked and now says the Incubator PMC should be notified twice when a podling is voting in a new committer, once at the start of the vote and again with the result. Is this really necessary? The last big discussion about this that i recall was http://apache.markmail.org/message/v5gwhbpbifqcafqu which resulted in a single notification, before that in the experiment that Joe started with podlings doing their own committer votes there wasn't any requirement to notify the Incubator PMC at all - http://apache.markmail.org/message/mihzgp7jfclj2dcv. So I'd like to remove this dual notification suggestion from that ppmc guide page again. Comments? ...ant Agree that initial notification is unnecessary, particularly considering that we will have the mentors oversight and still get notified at the end. -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/
[RESULT] [VOTE] recommend Apache JSPWiki for graduating out of the incubator
Hi, it's been 72 hours and the vote tally is: * Alan D. Cabrera * Ant Elder * Bertrand Delacretaz * Christian Grobmeier * Dave Fisher * Olivier Lamy all of them binding, so the vote passes :-) I'll make the submission of the resolutionto the Board tomorrow thanks all + br, juan pablo On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org wrote: ...I'd like to ask the IPMC to VOTE on recommending the attached graduation proposal to the board Enthusiastic +1, congrats to the JSPWiki team for hanging in there! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] recommend Apache JSPWiki for graduating out of the incubator
shame on me, that adds: * Craig L Russell * Sam Ruby * Siegfried Goeschl to the tally, being 9 +1 binding votes. (as http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html treats community and IPMC votes as different things I treated both threads independently) thanks for pointing that out br, juan pablo On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote: .. plus the binding votes from your mentors on the project mailing list... ;-) Craig On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote: Hi, it's been 72 hours and the vote tally is: * Alan D. Cabrera * Ant Elder * Bertrand Delacretaz * Christian Grobmeier * Dave Fisher * Olivier Lamy all of them binding, so the vote passes :-) I'll make the submission of the resolutionto the Board tomorrow thanks all + br, juan pablo On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org wrote: ...I'd like to ask the IPMC to VOTE on recommending the attached graduation proposal to the board Enthusiastic +1, congrats to the JSPWiki team for hanging in there! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Podling new committer votes
+1 the IPMC should not be interfering and thus there is no need to be involved. Mentors should be monitoring podling activity. IPMC members with an interest should join the community lists. On 9 Jul 2013 14:44, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the Voting in a new committer section at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html i see that its been updated since i last looked and now says the Incubator PMC should be notified twice when a podling is voting in a new committer, once at the start of the vote and again with the result. Is this really necessary? The last big discussion about this that i recall was http://apache.markmail.org/message/v5gwhbpbifqcafqu which resulted in a single notification, before that in the experiment that Joe started with podlings doing their own committer votes there wasn't any requirement to notify the Incubator PMC at all - http://apache.markmail.org/message/mihzgp7jfclj2dcv. So I'd like to remove this dual notification suggestion from that ppmc guide page again. Comments? ...ant Agree that initial notification is unnecessary, particularly considering that we will have the mentors oversight and still get notified at the end. -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Podling new committer votes
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the Voting in a new committer section at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html i see that its been updated since i last looked and now says the Incubator PMC should be notified twice when a podling is voting in a new committer, once at the start of the vote and again with the result. Is this really necessary? The last big discussion about this that i recall was http://apache.markmail.org/message/v5gwhbpbifqcafqu which resulted in a single notification, before that in the experiment that Joe started with podlings doing their own committer votes there wasn't any requirement to notify the Incubator PMC at all - http://apache.markmail.org/message/mihzgp7jfclj2dcv. So I'd like to remove this dual notification suggestion from that ppmc guide page again. Comments? Continuously relitigating rules like this is tiresome. In the longish thread from 2010, you made a specific proposal: http://markmail.org/message/eb4477634gkaomgk Nobody objected at the time. The language was perfectly clear, too. Six months later, there was a clarification which actually changed the rule. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/guides/ppmc.xml?r1=1036361r2=1140654diff_format=h +1 to revert to the rule that you built consensus for. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Podling new committer votes
Great archeology On 9 Jul 2013 18:02, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the Voting in a new committer section at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html i see that its been updated since i last looked and now says the Incubator PMC should be notified twice when a podling is voting in a new committer, once at the start of the vote and again with the result. Is this really necessary? The last big discussion about this that i recall was http://apache.markmail.org/message/v5gwhbpbifqcafqu which resulted in a single notification, before that in the experiment that Joe started with podlings doing their own committer votes there wasn't any requirement to notify the Incubator PMC at all - http://apache.markmail.org/message/mihzgp7jfclj2dcv. So I'd like to remove this dual notification suggestion from that ppmc guide page again. Comments? Continuously relitigating rules like this is tiresome. In the longish thread from 2010, you made a specific proposal: http://markmail.org/message/eb4477634gkaomgk Nobody objected at the time. The language was perfectly clear, too. Six months later, there was a clarification which actually changed the rule. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/guides/ppmc.xml?r1=1036361r2=1140654diff_format=h +1 to revert to the rule that you built consensus for. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
