Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:52 AM, William A. Rowe Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
 ...The HTTP Server project has successfully operated by unanimity...

As a side note,  I often tell people that IMO the HTTP Server is so
modular because people couldn't agree on things - it's much easier to
get consensus and sometimes unanimity when the things to agree upon
are smaller ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Johnzon 0.1-incubating release

2014-09-30 Thread Hendrik Dev
Thanks, see comments below

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 28 September 2014 22:31, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com wrote:
 So the project passed with 6 +1 votes (at least 3 of them binding from
 Romain Manni-Bucau, Justin Mclean and Daniel Kulp) and no -1 votes.
 See http://markmail.org/thread/2tnh43qokzj3hiwa and
 http://markmail.org/thread/g5etfukwi4av6kuk

 As of now also the incubator vote passed with at least 3 binding votes
 from Romain Manni-Bucau, Justin Mclean and Mark Struberg and no -1
 votes (until now).
 We would like to ask the IPMC and incubator people to review the
 release within the next 72 hours and if we get no -1 votes then the
 vote passed.

 Thanks
 Hendrik

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've created a 0.1-incubating release candidate, with the following
 artifacts up for a project vote:

 Git tag for the release is
 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-johnzon.git;a=tag;h=refs/tags/v0.1-incubating

 Git tags are not immutable

 Please include the hash for the tag in vote e-mails, both for the
 reviewers and for the historical record.


commit hash 39ffe71fc0050d5f25baec334e955d27e850bd6f

https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-johnzon.git;a=commit;h=39ffe71fc0050d5f25baec334e955d27e850bd6f


 Maven staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejohnzon-1000/

 Source release:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejohnzon-1000/org/apache/johnzon/johnzon/0.1-incubating/johnzon-0.1-incubating-source-release.zip

 The NOTICE file contains the following text:

 Please see LICENSE for additional copyright and licensing information.

 This is not required, and should be removed.
 (not a blocker for this release)

 The KEYS file does not really belong in the source release.
 The KEYS file has to be available from the ASF mirror host (*)
 This is derived from
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/johnzon/
 so the canonical source for KEYS should be maintained there, not in
 the source repo.
 The Git copy should be dropped (after merging any missing keys)
 Not a blocker.


will change this for the next release



 PGP release keys (signed using 22D7F6EC):
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/johnzon/KEYS

 (*) this is the file which is published to consumers so they can check sigs


 The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.

 [ ] +1  approve
 [ ] +0  no opinion
 [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)

 Here is my +1 (non binding)

 Thanks
 Hendrik





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Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote:
...

 Specifically, we (CouchDB) see voting as the failure mode of a
 discussion (a useful one non-the-less), or as a last-step requirement
 to officiate a particular set of project-level decisions (that are
 fully enumerated in the bylaws).


I very much agree with this sentiment, as does the Apache Subversion
project. In the project's 14 year history, we have held (maybe) about FOUR
actual votes. EVER. And I'm talking both technical and community-issue
votes. I'm really kind of guessing here. I can recall only two, but there
must have been a few others. If a community cannot reach consensus, and
needs a vote instead, then something is wrong (IMO).

To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict
[VOTE] for new committers or PMC members. We discuss first, and that sets
the direction. People throw out +1 messages, but that is sure, make it so
rather than a true vote. Whenever somebody says wait a minute, then we
do. We don't have formal rules around this stuff, since a general goal of
consensus is so ingrained into the community.

Cheers,
-g


Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

 To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict
 [VOTE] for new committers or PMC members. We discuss first, and that sets
 the direction. People throw out +1 messages, but that is sure, make it so
 rather than a true vote. Whenever somebody says wait a minute, then we
 do. We don't have formal rules around this stuff, since a general goal of
 consensus is so ingrained into the community.


The nice thing about the vote is that there is a [RESULT] message to link
to.  What does the Subversion project link to in the account request?


Re: FW: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-30 Thread Shameera Rathnayaka
Hi Devs,

 ​

 Apache Airavata http://airavata.apache.org/ is a software framework
 for executing and managing computational jobs and workflows on
 distributed computing resources. Taverna's concern is not as much job
 coordination, but more of a data flow between services. Airavata's
 XBaya Workflow Suite can export workflows in Taverna 1 format SCUFL,
 but could be updated to work with Taverna 3's SCUFL2 format.


I am a committer of Apache Airavata project and interesting to contribute
for Airavata-SCUFL2 integrations. I already have started a mail [1] thread
in apache Airavata architecture mailing list to explore the next generation
workflow description language for Airavata which best support and suit for
Scientific domains.

​[1] http://markmail.org/thread/tkpbj3sr4jhg6o6z​

​Thanks,
Shameera.​


Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

  To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict
  [VOTE] for new committers or PMC members. We discuss first, and that sets
  the direction. People throw out +1 messages, but that is sure, make it
 so
  rather than a true vote. Whenever somebody says wait a minute, then we
  do. We don't have formal rules around this stuff, since a general goal of
  consensus is so ingrained into the community.
 

 The nice thing about the vote is that there is a [RESULT] message to link
 to.  What does the Subversion project link to in the account request?


We don't provide a link. There is no reason for Infrastructure to
second-guess account requests from Officers or ASF Members, so that link is
optional. *Should* a question ever arise, then it is easy enough to provide
background information.

Cheers,
-g


Re: [VOTE] Accept Ignite into the Apache Incubator

2014-09-30 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 (binding)



On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote:
 I would like to call a vote for accepting Apache Ignite for Apache 
 Incubator.
 The full proposal is available below. We ask the IPMC to sponsor it, with cos
 as Champion, and stack, rvs, cos, hsaputra and brane volunteering to be 
 Mentors.

 Please cast your vote:

 [ ] +1, bring Iginite into Incubator
 [ ] +0, I don't care either way,
 [ ] -1, do not bring Iginite into Incubator, because...

 This vote will be open for 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator
 PMC are binding.

 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IgniteProposal

 Proposal text from the wiki:
 ## page was renamed from SilkProposal
 = Ignite Apache Incubator Proposal =
 == Abstract ==
 Apache Ignite will be a unified In-Memory Data Fabric providing
 high-performance, distributed in-memory data management software layer between
 various data sources and user applications.

 == Proposal ==
 Apache Ignite is written mostly in Java and Scala with small amount of C++ 
 code
 and will initially combine the following technologies under one unified
 umbrella:

  * In-Memory Data Grid
  * In-Memory Compute Grid
  * In-Memory Streaming Processing

 This unified in-memory fabric will provide high-performance, distributed
 in-memory software layer that sits in between various data sources and user
 applica tions. Data sources can include SQL RDBMS, NoSQL, or HDFS. 
 Applications
 APIs will be available for Java (and Java-based scripting languages), Scala,
 C++ and .NET (C#).

 GridGain Systems, Inc. submits this proposal to donate its Apache 2.0-licensed
 open source project generally known as “GridGain In-Memory Computing 
 Platform”,
 its source code, documentation, and websites to the Apache Software Foundation
 (“ASF”) with the goal of extending the vibrant open source community around
 this technology ultimately governed by “Apache Way”. Proposed Naming

 We have been advised by the ASF mentors that the name “Ignite” may not be 
 ideal
 because the name may be too generic and may not pass ASF legal check. Here are
 the alternatives that we have come up with and any of those will be acceptable
 for the project pending the ASF legal green light:

  * Apache Silk (preferable name)
  * Apache Sylk
  * Apache Memstor
  * Apache Ignite

 == Background  Rationale ==
 In-Memory Data Fabric is a natural and evolutionary consolidation of various
 “in-memory technologies” from the last decade. From simple local caching
 (JSR-107), to distributed caching, to data grids and databases, to streaming
 and plug-n-play acceleration - the in-memory space has grown quite
 dramatically.

 With rapid advances in NVRAM and significant price reduction of traditional
 DRAM on one hand, and growing sophistication and demand for faster data
 processing on another - many users of these silo-ed technologies and products
 started to look for a “strategic approach” to in-memory - an in-memory data
 fabric - that would provide suitable APIs for different types of payloads: 
 from
 data caching, to data grids, to in-memory SQL data stores, to HPC, to 
 streaming
 processing.

 With expensive and proprietary in-memory computing products from companies 
 like
 Oracle, SAP, Microsoft, and IBM -  the developers worldwide need an unhindered
 access to advanced open source in-memory software technology, the technology
 they can trust to develop with and deploy for critical applications. Current
 Status

 Apache Ignite will be based on the technology that is currently developed by
 GridGain Systems and available under Apache 2.0 license
 (http://www.gridgain.org). The software has been in development since 2007 and
 in production since 2009. It is currently used by over 500 production
 deployments with over 1,000,000 downloads to date, and with over 20,000,000
 GridGain nodes started in the last 5 years.

 == Comparative analysis to relevant projects ==
 === Ignite vs. Spark ===
 Apache Spark is a data-analytic and ML centric system that ingest data from
 HDFS or another distributed file system and performs in-memory processing of
 this data. Ignite is an In-Memory Data Fabric that is data source agnostic and
 provides both Hadoop-like computation engine (MapReduce) as well as many other
 computing paradigms like MPP, MPI, Streaming processing. Ignite also includes
 first-class level support for cluster management and operations, cluster-aware
 messaging and zero-deployment technologies. Ignite also provides support for
 full ACID transactions spanning memory and optional data sources.

 Ignite is a broader in-memory system that is less focused on Hadoop. Apache
 Spark is more inclined towards analytics and ML, and focused on MR-specific
 payloads.

 === Ignite vs. Storm, Samza ===
 Apache Storm is streaming processing framework. Apache Samza is a distributed
 stream processing engine. Ignite is a multi-purpose In-Memory Data Fabric that
 also includes streaming processing capabilities (and 

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Brett Porter
As an additional reference, here's a previous thread on the topic:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201303.mbox/%3ccapfnckijy6tm5tycfn7msch6h0v_ear7ws5qmftegaoo+do...@mail.gmail.com%3E

Cheers,
Brett

On 26 Sep 2014, at 1:59 pm, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

 In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting
 for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person
 can block the adding of a candidate.
 
 Do any projects use some form of majority voting for new committers?  What
 are the reasons for allowing vetoes?
 
 Thanks,
 -Alex
 
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Ignite into the Apache Incubator

2014-09-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote:
 I would like to call a vote for accepting Apache Ignite for Apache 
 Incubator.
 The full proposal is available below. We ask the IPMC to sponsor it, with cos
 as Champion, and stack, rvs, cos, hsaputra and brane volunteering to be 
 Mentors.

 Please cast your vote:

 [ ] +1, bring Iginite into Incubator
 [ ] +0, I don't care either way,
 [ ] -1, do not bring Iginite into Incubator, because...

+1 (binding)

Thanks,
Roman.

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