Re: Question about Apache's voting procedures
Hi Stefan The voting guidelines are available at [1]. The copyright owner is the Apache Software Foundation, reading the grants and IP clearance docs is a good place to get additional details on this -Jake [1]: http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html [2]: http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Stefan Reich stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com wrote: Hi again! I was silent because I am thinking... :) (Also I am making releases of my software.) I am trying to understand Apache. It seems the voting processes are of big importance. I would like to know who exactly gets to vote. All members of a mailing list? If yes, it seems like an easily manipulatable process... Also, who is officially the copyright owner on the Apache products? Because that is a tremendous power position it seems to me. All the best, Stefan
Re: Question about Apache's voting procedures
Votes are not the issue. Building community and building consensus in that community is the issue. To specifically answer your questions: It depends on the vote. For project technical issues, project committers are usually the voters. For project management issues, the voters are project management committee (PMC) members. Management issues include naming new committers and PMC members. Apache members are a separate class and they vote for new members and the board. All of this is documented on-line. The copyright owner is the Apache Software Foundation. If you are worried about power politics around your software, Apache is the wrong place to be. If you are interested in building up a community and giving up ownership to that community, Apache might be the right place for your work. But note, the software is not the central thing. The community is. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Stefan Reich stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com wrote: Hi again! I was silent because I am thinking... :) (Also I am making releases of my software.) I am trying to understand Apache. It seems the voting processes are of big importance. I would like to know who exactly gets to vote. All members of a mailing list? If yes, it seems like an easily manipulatable process... Also, who is officially the copyright owner on the Apache products? Because that is a tremendous power position it seems to me. All the best, Stefan
Question about Apache's voting procedures
Hi again! I was silent because I am thinking... :) (Also I am making releases of my software.) I am trying to understand Apache. It seems the voting processes are of big importance. I would like to know who exactly gets to vote. All members of a mailing list? If yes, it seems like an easily manipulatable process... Also, who is officially the copyright owner on the Apache products? Because that is a tremendous power position it seems to me. All the best, Stefan
Re: Question about Apache's voting procedures
Answers inline: On 13/05/2015 14:24, Stefan Reich stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com wrote: Hi again! I was silent because I am thinking... :) (Also I am making releases of my software.) I am trying to understand Apache. Take a look at community.apache.org - there is a lot of good introductory material there It seems the voting processes are of big importance. I would like to know who exactly gets to vote. All members of a mailing list? If yes, it seems like an easily manipulatable process... Anyone who participates in the community is invited to vote, votes are held on the mailing list so in practise this is the portion of the community on the mailing list For some procedural votes e.g. releases which are a legal act of the foundation for which the PMC takes responsibility then there is the notion of binding versus non-binding votes See http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html for more information How would you expect someone to manipulate this? Also, who is officially the copyright owner on the Apache products? Because that is a tremendous power position it seems to me. The Apache License (http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0) includes explicit terms for this in Clause 2 Essentially in non-lawyer speak: - Contributors retain the copyright to their contribution - Contributors grant a copyright license to all downstream users of their contributions that permits redistribution, modification, sub licensing etc Rob All the best, Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DRAFT] May 2015 Board Report
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:21PM, Tim Williams wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: - Blur: Human activity on Dev list is almost zero: high 90% of the emails are from CI system or JIRA notificaitons. Human's drive nearly all of that traffic. What is your point? How exactly the CI bot notifications are human driven ? Cos Honestly, this shepherd comment seems unhelpful and lazy. I'd suggest it's better to admit that you've run out of time than offer mediocre shepherd comments. --tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Trafodion Incubation Proposal
Hi, I just wanted to acknowledge and thank the following folks for volunteering to mentor Trafodion on its way into and through incubation as an Apache project: Michael Stack (champion) Roman Shaposhnik (mentor) Andrew Purtell (mentor) Enis Söztutar (mentor) Devaraj Das (mentor) Konstantin Boudnik (mentor, half time) More mentors are welcome of course. (And please forgive my inexperience; I don't know what number of mentors is common for incubating projects.) Thanks, Dave Birdsall, Community Manager, Trafodion project
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache htrace-3.2.0-incubating
Closing the vote. [7] +1 - 6 Were binding I believe. Please correct me if I am mistaken. [0] 0 [0] -1 Thanks for participating folks. On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Colin McCabe cmcc...@alumni.cmu.edu wrote: Downloaded. Verified hashes. Ran unit tests Installed and built Hadoop trunk against it Verified that HDFS integration and htraced worked +1. cheers, Colin On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote: Carrying my +1 (binding) over from the dev list -Jake On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Abraham Elmahrek a...@apache.org wrote: Apache HTrace (incubating), after 2 release candidates, has voted to release the below referenced Apache HTrace 3.2.0-incubating release candidate. Dear IPMC, please vote on our second release candidate as an Apache Incubator project. Here is the vote thread we ran on our dev list (Six binding +1 votes and no -1 votes) with a subject: [VOTE] HTrace 3.2.0 - Release Candidate 2, second release candidate * http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-htrace-dev/201505.mbox/%3CCAOvM-ciKd82bt3ze7oZD9FnNUcss8T%2BufwwgEndrhpnnOdgMNA%40mail.gmail.com%3E http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-htrace-dev/201505.mbox/%3CCAOvM-ciKd82bt3ze7oZD9FnNUcss8T%2BufwwgEndrhpnnOdgMNA%40mail.gmail.com%3E * The source tarball, hashes, and signing are here: http://people.apache.org/~abe/htrace/releases/3.2.0/rc1/ (Over in htrace our RC number was zero based so RC1 == second RC) Related maven artifacts are posted here: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachehtrace-1016 The tag for the RC is here: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-htrace.git;a=tag;h=44fa6e0cd7456b5725b8557161f68b851fdf75d8 The KEYS file with the key used signing is available here: *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/htrace/KEYS https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/htrace/KEYS* 75 issues were closed/resolved for this release: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20HTRACE%20AND%20status%20%3D%20resolved%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.2.0%20ORDER%20BY%20issuetype%20DESC The vote will be open for 96 hours. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache HTrace 3.2.0-incubating [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 Do not release this package because ... Thanks, Abe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DRAFT] May 2015 Board Report
Ted,
I've updated the list below for those in by end of month. Do you want to
forward to the board? Anything else to be added?
John
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:48 PM Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the recent IPMC additions sorted by time of addition:
Amareshwari Sriramadasuamareshw...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
David Lester dles...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
Kim Whitehall whiteh...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
P. Taylor Goetzptgo...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
Michael Joyce jo...@apache.org [2015-04-13]
Jitendra Pandeyjiten...@apache.org[2015-04-30]
Chris Nauroth cnaur...@apache.org[2015-05-10]
Julian Hydejh...@apache.org [2015-05-10]
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:56 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
wrote:
All,
Below please find the current draft of this month's board report. I'm
struggling a bit with the new IPMC members section, Ted if you can update
it?
= Incubator PMC report for May 2015 =
=== Timeline ===
||Wed May 06 ||Podling reports due by end of day ||
||Sun May 10 ||Shepherd reviews due by end of day ||
||Sun May 10 ||Summary due by end of day ||
||Tue May 12 ||Mentor signoff due by end of day ||
||Wed May 13 ||Report submitted to Board ||
||Wed May 20 ||Board meeting ||
=== Shepherd Assignments ===
||Andrei Savu ||AsterixDB ||
||Andrei Savu ||Groovy ||
||Drew Farris ||BatchEE ||
||Justin Mclean ||Myriad ||
||Konstantin Boudnik ||Blur ||
||Konstantin Boudnik ||Kylin ||
||Matthew Franklin ||Droids ||
||Matthew Franklin ||Twill ||
||P. Taylor Goetz ||NiFi ||
||P. Taylor Goetz ||REEF ||
||Raphael Bircher ||Tamaya ||
||Raphael Bircher ||TinkerPop ||
||Suresh Marru ||CommonsRDF ||
||Suresh Marru ||Slider ||
||Timothy Chen ||Singa ||
||Timothy Chen ||Sirona ||
=== Report content ===
{{{
Incubator PMC report for May 2015
The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and
codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts.
narrative
* Community
New IPMC members:
People who left the IPMC:
* New Podlings
Geode
* Graduations
The board has motions for the following:
Parquet
* Releases
The following releases were made since the last Incubator report:
2015-04-02 apache-ignite-1.0.0
2015-04-02 apahce-johnzon-0.7
2015-04-15 apache-parquet-mr-1.6.0
2015-04-16 apache-calcite-1.2.0
2015-04-25 apache-streams-project-0.2
2015-04-27 apache-tinkerpop-3.0.0.M8-incubating
* IP Clearance
Apache Storm Azure Eventhub Integration
Donation of Apache Flex documentation by Adobe
Donation of Apache Usergrid source code by Apigee.
* Legal / Trademarks
* Infrastructure
* Miscellaneous
* The Marvin report reminders fired in a timely manner for the first
time in several months and were sent to the proper podlings. A
replacement script had been contemplated but now that there is less
urgency it seems likely that we will continue to use the existing
facilities.
Summary of podling reports
* Still getting started at the Incubator
AsterixDB
Myriad
* Not yet ready to graduate
No release:
CommonsRDF
Groovy
Kylin
Singa
Tamaya
Zeppelin
Community growth:
NiFi
Slider
TinkerPop
Twill
* Ready to graduate
Blur
* Low Activity
Droids
ODF Toolkit
* Did not report, expected next month
BatchEE
REEF
Sirona
--
Table of Contents
AsterixDB
Blur
CommonsRDF
Droids
Groovy
Kylin
Myriad
NiFi
ODF Toolkit
Singa
Slider
Tamaya
TinkerPop
Twill
Zeppelin
--
AsterixDB
Apache AsterixDB is a scalable big data management system (BDMS) that
provides storage, management, and query capabilities for large
collections
of semi- structured data.
AsterixDB has been incubating since 2015-02-28.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Get the site up.
2. Do an Apache release.
3. Grow community
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
No, still getting started.
How has the community developed since the last report?
The SGA has been signed and the code has been imported.
More discussions happen on the Apache lists now.
How has the project developed since the last report?
SGA and code drop done, need to get the site (and maybe the Wiki) up as
Re: [DRAFT] May 2015 Board Report
fwiw, it'd be good that shepherds get in the habit of putting their or
initials in front of their comments, because the section is titled
mentors/shepherd comments.
Thanks,
--tim
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:08 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
Ted,
I've updated the list below for those in by end of month. Do you want to
forward to the board? Anything else to be added?
John
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:48 PM Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the recent IPMC additions sorted by time of addition:
Amareshwari Sriramadasuamareshw...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
David Lester dles...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
Kim Whitehall whiteh...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
P. Taylor Goetzptgo...@apache.org [2015-04-11]
Michael Joyce jo...@apache.org [2015-04-13]
Jitendra Pandeyjiten...@apache.org[2015-04-30]
Chris Nauroth cnaur...@apache.org[2015-05-10]
Julian Hydejh...@apache.org [2015-05-10]
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:56 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
wrote:
All,
Below please find the current draft of this month's board report. I'm
struggling a bit with the new IPMC members section, Ted if you can update
it?
= Incubator PMC report for May 2015 =
=== Timeline ===
||Wed May 06 ||Podling reports due by end of day ||
||Sun May 10 ||Shepherd reviews due by end of day ||
||Sun May 10 ||Summary due by end of day ||
||Tue May 12 ||Mentor signoff due by end of day ||
||Wed May 13 ||Report submitted to Board ||
||Wed May 20 ||Board meeting ||
=== Shepherd Assignments ===
||Andrei Savu ||AsterixDB ||
||Andrei Savu ||Groovy ||
||Drew Farris ||BatchEE ||
||Justin Mclean ||Myriad ||
||Konstantin Boudnik ||Blur ||
||Konstantin Boudnik ||Kylin ||
||Matthew Franklin ||Droids ||
||Matthew Franklin ||Twill ||
||P. Taylor Goetz ||NiFi ||
||P. Taylor Goetz ||REEF ||
||Raphael Bircher ||Tamaya ||
||Raphael Bircher ||TinkerPop ||
||Suresh Marru ||CommonsRDF ||
||Suresh Marru ||Slider ||
||Timothy Chen ||Singa ||
||Timothy Chen ||Sirona ||
=== Report content ===
{{{
Incubator PMC report for May 2015
The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and
codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts.
narrative
* Community
New IPMC members:
People who left the IPMC:
* New Podlings
Geode
* Graduations
The board has motions for the following:
Parquet
* Releases
The following releases were made since the last Incubator report:
2015-04-02 apache-ignite-1.0.0
2015-04-02 apahce-johnzon-0.7
2015-04-15 apache-parquet-mr-1.6.0
2015-04-16 apache-calcite-1.2.0
2015-04-25 apache-streams-project-0.2
2015-04-27 apache-tinkerpop-3.0.0.M8-incubating
* IP Clearance
Apache Storm Azure Eventhub Integration
Donation of Apache Flex documentation by Adobe
Donation of Apache Usergrid source code by Apigee.
* Legal / Trademarks
* Infrastructure
* Miscellaneous
* The Marvin report reminders fired in a timely manner for the first
time in several months and were sent to the proper podlings. A
replacement script had been contemplated but now that there is less
urgency it seems likely that we will continue to use the existing
facilities.
Summary of podling reports
* Still getting started at the Incubator
AsterixDB
Myriad
* Not yet ready to graduate
No release:
CommonsRDF
Groovy
Kylin
Singa
Tamaya
Zeppelin
Community growth:
NiFi
Slider
TinkerPop
Twill
* Ready to graduate
Blur
* Low Activity
Droids
ODF Toolkit
* Did not report, expected next month
BatchEE
REEF
Sirona
--
Table of Contents
AsterixDB
Blur
CommonsRDF
Droids
Groovy
Kylin
Myriad
NiFi
ODF Toolkit
Singa
Slider
Tamaya
TinkerPop
Twill
Zeppelin
--
AsterixDB
Apache AsterixDB is a scalable big data management system (BDMS) that
provides storage, management, and query capabilities for large
collections
of semi- structured data.
AsterixDB has been incubating since 2015-02-28.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Get the site up.
2. Do an Apache release.
3. Grow community
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
No, still getting started.
How has the community developed since the last
Re: Helping Neo4j Release an Apache2 API for Apache Projects
neo4j is just a remote app in this context, right? So there'll be no classpath contamination? in which case, I don't see why there'd be any worry about pulling in to the test/release process. I think having neo4j maintain the artifact makes sense from a maintenance/release process, tinkerpop can just pull it in for the build, and perhaps the test. think about how much stuff we distribute which depends on a closed source product -anything that works with, say, Amazon web services, or Oracle DB. the policy there has always been: compatible code on the asf source, build, distribution; recipient gets to choose their actions. On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:33, Marko Rodriguez okramma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Here are notes to peoples comments thus far: 1. TinkerPop2 (prior to Apache) maintained all the vendor connectors. This was very burdensome for the TinkerPop developers as we had to stay up to date on each vendors changes. We didn't want to go down this road for TinkerPop3 (now Apache). 2. However, we are interested in providing two reference implementations of TinkerPop. One for OLTP (Neo4j) and one for OLAP (Hadoop). We think providing Neo4j and Hadoop out of the box is a good thing for TinkerPop as it provides other vendors code to look at (ah, thats how they did transactions for Neo4j -- okay, I will copy that pattern) and users a starting point (okay, lets load my data into Neo4j by following the examples in the docs.). 3. Note that TinkerPop3 does NOT depend on Neo4j. neo4j-gremlin is simply a parallel module that can be :install'd by the user if they want. If the user doesn't want it, its not in their CLASSPATH, etc. Likewise for hadoop-gremlin. However, in our docs, we like to show both Neo4j and Hadoop as it provides more context to TinkerPop -- not just, here is an API you can use, good luck. So, if a user is using, lets say, titan-gremlin, there is NOTHING Neo4j in their CLASSPATH, depedency/, etc. TinkerPop doesn't NEED Neo4j. -- you can see how hadoop-gremlin requires an :install (not something that is part of TinkerPop): http://tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org/docs/3.0.0.M8-incubating/#hadoop-gremlin 4. TinkerPop is not trying to push Neo4j in order to boost Neo4j's worth in any way. Realize that many of the TinkerPop contributors work for a Neo4j competitor (Titan (Aurelius) - DSE Graph (DataStax)). We are not here to play money games but to make sure the graph community has graph technology. Neo4j is an easy, stable, popular graph database with a simple dependency/ and you are off. 5. We planned on giving Neo4j neo4j-gremlin so they could release it as they wish. However, this leaves a hole in our product as then we have hadoop-gremlin as a reference implementation of OLAP, but no OLTP counterpart. This is sorta awkward. If we gutted neo4j-gremlin, we would then want to gut hadoop-gremlin…. However, we really don't want to do that. We think having these two connectors available with each release makes TinkerPop easier for users and vendors to adopt TinkerPop. I hope this clears things up. Please ask more questions if not. Thank you, Marko. http://markorodriguez.com On Apr 30, 2015, at 3:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Marko Rodriguez okramma...@gmail.com wrote: ...In short, TinkerPop would depend on an Apache2 licensed neo4j-api. Some manual downloads from testers/users would be required to use the tinkerpop-neo4j component with a Neo4j database That sounds ok to me as long as that's an optional component of TinkerPop. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.80.0-incubating
On 12 May 2015, at 22:08, Gour Saha gs...@hortonworks.com wrote: This vote will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) Thank You, The Apache Slider Team +1 (binding) as stated in the slider list: downloaded source, built and tested on windows. -Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
