Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread drew jensen
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 17:01 -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
  Well, for myself, I don't have a problem with the AOO project not having
  official binary releases - in such a circumstance I would strongly
  prefer no binary release at all.
 
 I wonder who might step into the breach to provide binaries for such a
 package...

Hi,

Well, for a start:

IBM stated it will release a free binary version at some point, after
shutting down the Symphony product.

CS2C, a Chinese firm working in cooperation with Ernest and Young IIRC,
releases a binary based on the source code - in fact I'm not even sure
AOO supplied binaries are available to most folks in China.

Multiracio releases a closed source version of the application for sale
in Europe and the US.

In the past quite a few Linux distributors included binary releases in
their offerings, they consume source not binaries.

The current BSD, OS/2 and Solaris ports will go out as source only from
AOO, but come to end users from a third party repository, unless I
totally missed what was happening there (and I might off ;)

There are currently two groups which offer binary versions packaged to
run off USB drives, as far as I understand it, they work from source and
don't require binaries.

Finally this is a well known brand now, it would be hard to believe that
if AOO did not release binaries the void would not be filled by others.

//drew


 
  On the other hand if there is a binary release from the AOO project then
  I believe it should be treated as a fully endorsed action.
 
 At the ASF, the source release is canonical.  I have never seen anyone assert
 that the source release is not offical and endorsed by the ASF.
 
 There has been disagreement about whether binaries should be official or not.
 To the best of my knowledge, every time the matter has come up, the debate has
 been resolved with a compromise: that while binary releases are not endorsed
 by the ASF, they may be provided in addition to the source release for the
 convenience of users.
 
 What is different with AOO is that the compromise does not seem to satisfy
 an element within the PPMC and thus the matter is being forced.
 
 It would be a lot of hard, time-consuming work for the ASF to build the
 institutions necessary to provide binary releases that approach the standards
 our source releases set.  (As illustrated by e.g. the challenges of setting up
 the code signing service.)  Not all of us are convinced that it is for the
 best, either.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-30 Thread Drew Jensen
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 15:53 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
 *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE]
 
 As the discussions on the ODF Toolkit threads seem to be winding down,
 I would like to initiate the vote to accept the ODF Toolkit as an
 Apache Incubator project.
 
 At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal.
 Here is a link to the document in the wiki:
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal?action=recallrev=7
 
 I encourage everybody to read the proposal thread before voting:
 
 http://old.nabble.com/-PROPOSAL--ODF-Toolkit-for-Incubation-td32102643.html
 
 Please cast your votes:
 
 [  ] +1 Accept ODF Toolkit for incubation
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to ODF Toolkit incubation
 [  ] -1 Reject ODF Toolkit for incubation
 
snip

+1

Thanks,

Drew Jensen


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