AFAIK, Amoro is a management system with optimization service, catalog
service, etc. It has a built-in catalog but can also work with other
catalogs like Polaris.
I think Polaris is more comparable to Gravitino which entered the incubator
recently. It would be interesting to see how these two communities can
collaborate.
Regards,
Manu
On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 12:36 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
wrote:
> Hi
>
> The proposal is more generic: today it's Apache Iceberg, but after the
> discussions with the initial community we agreed it could make sense
> to address other use cases.
>
> I don't know Amoro in details, but I am happy to bridge the
> communities to work together.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 5:16 AM Xuanwo wrote:
> >
> > Hi, JB
> >
> > Thank you for starting this thread; it's great to see an increasing
> number of projects being developed around Iceberg.
> >
> > I have two questions:
> >
> > - The polaris github repo said it's "an open source catalog for Apache
> Iceberg", but the proposal changed into "a catalog for data lakes". Does it
> mean Polaris's scope has been changed?
> > - What's the difference between this project and Amoro:
> https://github.com/apache/amoro? How do these two communities collaborate?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 04:19, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > >> On Jul 30, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Dave,
> > >>
> > >> That's a good question. The main reason is because we wanted people
> > >> with Apache experience in the PPMC to mentor the committers and
> > >> contributors heading to PPMC as well.
> > >> Also, the initial committers worked closely with PPMC guidance
> > >> (explaining the ICLA, good practice, etc).
> > >> So, we wanted to have PPMC acting more as mentor (both technically but
> > >> also with their Apache experience) with committers.
> > >
> > > That makes sense. Are any of the proposed PPMC members also ASF Members
> > > and/or potentially future Mentors?
> > >
> > >> If it's problematic, we can start only with the PPMC group and invite
> > >> new committers/PPMC members during incubation period.
> > >
> > > No problem. It will actually provide the Mentors and later the IPMC
> > > additional data to see if the PPMC is properly growing the PPMC and
> > > Committer base.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> JB
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 8:19 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi JB,
> > >>>
> > >>> An interesting project that looks pretty mature.
> > >>>
> > >>> I’m curious about the split between Initial PPMC and initial
> Committer. In the usual case a new podling will have all of the Initial
> Committers on the PPMC. Can you tell us why this is not the case with
> Polaris?
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Dave
> > >>>
> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 10:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > We would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator:
> Polaris.
> >
> > Polaris is a catalog for data lakes. It provides new levels of
> choice,
> > flexibility and control over data, with full enterprise security and
> > Apache Iceberg interoperability across a multitude of engines and
> > infrastructure. Polaris builds on standards such as those created by
> > Apache Iceberg, providing the following benefits for the ecosystem:
> > * Multi-engine interoperability over a single copy of data,
> > eliminating the need for moving and copying data across different
> > engines and catalogs.
> > * An interoperable security model providing a unified authorization
> > layer independent from the engines processing analytical tables.
> > * For multi-catalog scenarios, a unified catalog level view of data
> > across multiple catalogs via catalog notification integrations.
> > * The ability to host Polaris Catalog on the infrastructure of your
> choice.
> >
> > Here is the proposal:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/PolarisProposal
> >
> > Comments and feedback are welcome.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
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