Beanshell moved to github

2015-09-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

As some of you might recall, we tried to start a new incubation project
for Beanshell, or alternatively just get it included in Apache Commons
but neither of those happened.

We (actually Pat) did the SGA paperwork and the code was effectively 
relicensed under the Apache License version 2.


The code was living in Apache Extras but with the deprecation of
Google Code we have moved Beanshell to github.

You are welcome to join, contribute, or simply consume from it's new
home at github:

https://github.com/beanshell/beanshell

Regards,

Pedro.

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Re: [NOTICE] corinthia PPMC+committer -= dortef, franz, gbg, ianc, jani, louis, pmkelly

2015-09-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

I am sad to see corinthia move outside the ASF. It looks like it's 
pretty late to change that and as someone said Apache is not for 
everyone. In any case I thought I'd comment:


In Apache OpenOffice we considered the same situation with GTK, and the
general consensus at the time is that GTK was to be considered a system
library. Our function in OpenOffice was not to create a graphics toolkit
so the consideration seemed appropriate. We also just had to adapt to 
whatever set of tools each OS offers.


We did have a plan B: the enlightenment foundation libraries should
serve a similar purpose and are under a BSD license:

https://www.enlightenment.org/

I understand Webkit is mixed LGPL+BSD, getting a quality replacement
for that is probably not easy.

Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Pedro Giffuni
On May 24, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: 
 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 ~~~
 
 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.
 
 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.
 
 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
 
 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.
 
 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:
 
 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org
 
 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.
 
 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.
 
 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:
 
 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter
 
 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.
 
 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.
 
 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.
 
 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.
 
 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 attractiveness  of the ASF

Re: [PROPOSAL] BeanShell join the Apache Incubator

2013-02-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
This is a great team!


- Messaggio originale -
 Da: Dave Fisher 

 Inviato: Lunedì 18 Febbraio 2013 19:51
 Oggetto: Re: [PROPOSAL] BeanShell join the Apache Incubator
 
 Hi,
 
 This does look interesting. I'd like to help and have added myself as a 
 project Mentor if that is alright.
 

I know Dave since his involvement in Apache OpenOffice and I met Nour
and Simone at ApacheConEU, it will be great to work with all of you guys!


For reference, we have already advanced in the IP clearance process:

Patrick is the main developer and the copyright owner and he already
changed the headers. We were also very lucky that the single (optional)
dependency was relicensed from LGPL to BSD and it was easy to
update.

I am sure this will be a very fun project for all of us involved!

Pedro.


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Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ciao Simone;

Unfortunately I don't have much time these days
either, and while there is already a development
community around beanshell, we really need someone
Apache to lead.

For now I am really glad they are moving the license
to AL2, this will raise even more interest in ASF.

best regards,

Pedro.

--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi Pedro,
 +1 that sounds really interesting - who doesn't know
 Beanshell, it's
 amazing! - I may could help on the proposal, but
 unfortunately I have
 too many stuff to manage this time to manage so I cannot be
 fully
 involved :(
 Looking forward to see more people interested before
 putting black on white!
 All the best, have  anice day,
 Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org
 wrote:
  (Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect
 any
  response only to general@incubator)
 
  Hello;
 
  As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I
 asked
  the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.
 
  Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree
 to this,
  they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF.
 They are
  willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN
 server
  and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own
 projects
  though, so in general they would want to spend time in
 an
  incubation process themselves.
 
  http://www.beanshell.org/
 
  I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel,
 Script,
  AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be
 beneficial
  to the ASF.
 
  Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would
 like to
  take the lead in an incubation process?
 
  best regards,
 
  Pedro.
 
 
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Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
(Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect any
response only to general@incubator)

Hello;

As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I asked
the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.

Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree to this,
they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF. They are
willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN server
and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own projects
though, so in general they would want to spend time in an
incubation process themselves.

http://www.beanshell.org/

I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel, Script,
AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be beneficial
to the ASF.

Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would like to
take the lead in an incubation process?

best regards,

Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni

[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding)

I like the Apache license and I think having a really free alternative
is good for everyone, as much as clang vs gcc and linux vs FreeBSD.

Apache is also a good fit for OO technologically and I think the
incubation process will end up benefiting libreoffice by either code
adoption and by providing further motivation to keep being relevant.

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