[DISCUSSION] (was: RE: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-11 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Volker Merschmann [mailto:merschm...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011 6:49 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation
 
 Hi,
 
 I am wearing my OOo-hat here, and this is my vote:
 
 [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [  ] +0 Indifferent to
 OpenOffice.org incubation [X ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation
 
 I have contributed to OpenOffice.org for several years and I doubt that
the
 project will find the needed resources at Apache.

Hi Volker,

Please tell us what sort of 'resources' are you talking about, examples
please, are
these infrastructure resources? If so, as an infra person here at the ASF I
would
like some insight into what people think we don’t have or  cannot handle.

I have been researching myself online and with other folks including OOo
infra admins
and so far I haven’t found anything to make me think that this cannot be
done at
an infrastructure level.

Gav...

 
 Bye
 
 Volker
 
 -
 To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
 For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org



Re: [DISCUSSION] (was: RE: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-11 Thread Simon Brouwer

Hi Gavin,

Op 11-6-2011 10:59, Gavin McDonald schreef:

-Original Message-
From: Volker Merschmann [mailto:merschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011 6:49 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

Hi,

I am wearing my OOo-hat here, and this is my vote:

[  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [  ] +0 Indifferent to
OpenOffice.org incubation [X ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation

I have contributed to OpenOffice.org for several years and I doubt that

the

project will find the needed resources at Apache.

Hi Volker,

Please tell us what sort of 'resources' are you talking about, examples
please, are
these infrastructure resources? If so, as an infra person here at the ASF I
would
like some insight into what people think we don’t have or  cannot handle.


I'm not answering for Volker, but personally I see a big problem in the 
fact that the installation packages of OpenOffice.org as we know it 
today contain numerous external (mostly LGPL) libraries and binaries 
that are not ASL licensed and not covered under the Oracle grant.
As I understand, it is strict ASF policy not to distribute binaries 
containing non-ASL source, and it will be far from trivial to replace 
those dependencies. Therefore I expect that, even if OpenOffice.org can 
be built and distributed under these restrictions, it will be severely 
crippled for a long time to come. I foresee that many (prospective) 
OpenOffice.org-users will lose interest and that we won't be able to 
regain the momentum.


--

Vriendelijke groet,
Simon Brouwer.

| http://nl.openoffice.org | http://www.opentaal.org |


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org