Re: [RFC] Proposed voting description edits

2011-12-02 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2011 23:24, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:

 OK?

 Wow, thanks for that effort. Please do.

Now done.
Had to make minor tweaks for readability.

If there are any complaints with my changes, please raise ASAP so they
can be fixed.

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[RFC] Proposed voting description edits

2011-11-30 Thread sebb
I've done a short trawl of the pages that relate to release voting.
There are two pages that I think need updating - please read on.

The Httpd release description [1] says:

For the ASF to release the candidate tarball/archive, at least three
project members must vote affirmatively for release, and there must be
more positive than negative votes for the release.

The glossary entry for Majority Approval [2] says:

Refers to a vote (sense 1) which has completed with at least three
binding +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. ( I.e. , a simple
majority with a minimum quorum of three positive votes.) 

These agree with each other, and are both correct, as far as I am aware.

OK so far?

==

Now the Apache Voting Process/Package Releases page [3] disagrees with
[1], as it says:

Votes on whether a package is ready to be released follow a format
similar to majority approval [2] -- except that the decision is
officially determined solely by whether at least three +1 votes were
registered

I hope we are all agreed that this is misleading/wrong, and in fact
release votes are governed by Majority Approval as defined by the
glossary [2]

I propose to change this to:

Votes on whether a package is ready to be released use Majority
Approval [2] -- i.e.at least three PMC members must vote affirmatively
for release, and there must be more positive than negative votes for
the release.

[Note: capitalisation of Majority Approval is necessary to
distinguish it from simple majority approval, which does not have
the +1 x 3 quorum requirement. It is also the section heading in [2].]

OK?

==

The Release FAQ section on approving a release [4] says:

All releases must be voted[5] on by the project and must receive at
least three +1 votes from PMC members.

This is correct, but incomplete.

In this case, I suggest the same as before, i.e.

Votes on whether a package is ready to be released use Majority
Approval [2] -- i.e.at least three PMC members must vote affirmatively
for release, and there must be more positive than negative votes for
the release.

OK?

==

[1] http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html - section Who can vote?
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval
[3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes
[4] http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release
[5] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

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RE: [RFC] Proposed voting description edits

2011-11-30 Thread Prescott Nasser
+1


From: sebb
Sent: 11/30/2011 3:53 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [RFC] Proposed voting description edits

I've done a short trawl of the pages that relate to release voting.
There are two pages that I think need updating - please read on.

The Httpd release description [1] says:

For the ASF to release the candidate tarball/archive, at least three
project members must vote affirmatively for release, and there must be
more positive than negative votes for the release.

The glossary entry for Majority Approval [2] says:

Refers to a vote (sense 1) which has completed with at least three
binding +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. ( I.e. , a simple
majority with a minimum quorum of three positive votes.) 

These agree with each other, and are both correct, as far as I am aware.

OK so far?

==

Now the Apache Voting Process/Package Releases page [3] disagrees with
[1], as it says:

Votes on whether a package is ready to be released follow a format
similar to majority approval [2] -- except that the decision is
officially determined solely by whether at least three +1 votes were
registered

I hope we are all agreed that this is misleading/wrong, and in fact
release votes are governed by Majority Approval as defined by the
glossary [2]

I propose to change this to:

Votes on whether a package is ready to be released use Majority
Approval [2] -- i.e.at least three PMC members must vote affirmatively
for release, and there must be more positive than negative votes for
the release.

[Note: capitalisation of Majority Approval is necessary to
distinguish it from simple majority approval, which does not have
the +1 x 3 quorum requirement. It is also the section heading in [2].]

OK?

==

The Release FAQ section on approving a release [4] says:

All releases must be voted[5] on by the project and must receive at
least three +1 votes from PMC members.

This is correct, but incomplete.

In this case, I suggest the same as before, i.e.

Votes on whether a package is ready to be released use Majority
Approval [2] -- i.e.at least three PMC members must vote affirmatively
for release, and there must be more positive than negative votes for
the release.

OK?

==

[1] http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html - section Who can vote?
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval
[3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes
[4] http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release
[5] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

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