Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch

 OK to change that?

 This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
 with colour-blindness.

 I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
 development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 It used to have decent contrast for the links.
 Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
 to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
 colour to be the same (which is poor design).

No, its not. I like it. Marking visited links with different colors is
so 90ies. You see, it is in the eye of the observer.


 I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
 for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

Now the visited links in the clutch table cannot be differed from the
green background. I should mention that I have a color-weakness.


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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Finally the wonderful bootstrap css is destroyed:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html

I do not agree to changing the colors of visited links.
The headings now have a different line-height and look pretty ugly
(see Mailing lists heading).
Heading were bold before, and I think we should keep them bold.

And looking at this page compared to:
http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/guides/committer.html
Even the heading color should not be black. It gives everything a
depressing look and feel.

The clutchtable has a class called colortable, can we format this
class instead of formatting the standard bootstrap classes?

Can we change that again, please?

Thanks,
Christian



On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  sebb wrote:
 
  Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
  However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
  distinct from the background.
 
  I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
  much better for me.
 
  See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
  OK to change that?
 
  This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
  with colour-blindness.
 
  I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
  development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 +1

 There are now some notes and acknowledgement at the bottom.

  It used to have decent contrast for the links.

 Sorry, should have checked that out.
 I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
 behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

  Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
  to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
  colour to be the same (which is poor design).
 
  I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
  for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

 Indeed.

 Thanks for fixing that for the whole site. That is much better.

 There is also the issue of ul lists being coloured faint grey.
 That reduces readability.

 -David

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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
On 12 October 2011 10:04, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Finally the wonderful bootstrap css is destroyed:
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html

 I do not agree to changing the colors of visited links.
 The headings now have a different line-height and look pretty ugly
 (see Mailing lists heading).

Sorry, I don't see the line-height issue.

I don't mind too much about the visited links being a different colour.

 Heading were bold before, and I think we should keep them bold.

I was not aware I had changed the font weight.

 And looking at this page compared to:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/guides/committer.html
 Even the heading color should not be black. It gives everything a
 depressing look and feel.

I find black more legible, and having headings the same colour as
links is very confusing.

 The clutchtable has a class called colortable, can we format this
 class instead of formatting the standard bootstrap classes?

 Can we change that again, please?

Perhaps the earlier suggestion of creating a branch to test out the
new formatting would now be useful.

If this is stored on p.a.o in a personal directory, we can try
different settings very quickly.

 Thanks,
 Christian



 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  sebb wrote:
 
  Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
  However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
  distinct from the background.
 
  I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
  much better for me.
 
  See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
  OK to change that?
 
  This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
  with colour-blindness.
 
  I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
  development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 +1

 There are now some notes and acknowledgement at the bottom.

  It used to have decent contrast for the links.

 Sorry, should have checked that out.
 I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
 behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

  Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
  to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
  colour to be the same (which is poor design).
 
  I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
  for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

 Indeed.

 Thanks for fixing that for the whole site. That is much better.

 There is also the issue of ul lists being coloured faint grey.
 That reduces readability.

 -David

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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Will respond to rest later

 Can we change that again, please?

 Perhaps the earlier suggestion of creating a branch to test out the
 new formatting would now be useful.

+1

 If this is stored on p.a.o in a personal directory, we can try
 different settings very quickly.

+1

Cheers


 Thanks,
 Christian



 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  sebb wrote:
 
  Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
  However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
  distinct from the background.
 
  I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
  much better for me.
 
  See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
  OK to change that?
 
  This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
  with colour-blindness.
 
  I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
  development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 +1

 There are now some notes and acknowledgement at the bottom.

  It used to have decent contrast for the links.

 Sorry, should have checked that out.
 I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
 behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

  Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
  to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
  colour to be the same (which is poor design).
 
  I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
  for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

 Indeed.

 Thanks for fixing that for the whole site. That is much better.

 There is also the issue of ul lists being coloured faint grey.
 That reduces readability.

 -David

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Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-11 Thread sebb
Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.

However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
distinct from the background.

I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
much better for me.

See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at

http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch

OK to change that?

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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-11 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote:
 Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
 However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
 distinct from the background.
 
 I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
 much better for me.
 
 See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
 OK to change that?

This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
with colour-blindness.

I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

It used to have decent contrast for the links.
Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
colour to be the same (which is poor design).

I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

-David

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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-11 Thread sebb
On 12 October 2011 03:14, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.

 However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
 distinct from the background.

 I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
 much better for me.

 See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at

 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch

 OK to change that?

 This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
 with colour-blindness.

 I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
 development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

+1

 It used to have decent contrast for the links.

Sorry, should have checked that out.
I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

 Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
 to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
 colour to be the same (which is poor design).

 I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
 for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

Indeed.

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